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Should rockers who can’t sing anymore still be touring?

Marshall Tucker... Went to a concert of his a few weeks ago. When he starts off explaining "his allergies" have "affected his voice", we all knew it was going to be a long night. A very long night. This guy should have stopped touring 10-15 years ago. Awful, just awful. On the other hand we recently went to a Tower of Power concert. Great show, great energy. It's a dice roll I guess.
 
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eyoungren said:
I still have my CD tower in the garage, full of my CDs. Goodwill also makes acquiring CDs cheap and easy. :D

I'm 51, and I'd rather buy a CD and rip the tracks than deal with DRM.
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I wouldn't mind if I had the space (I live in an apartment) as for DRM if you purchase from iTunes (not subscribe to Apple Music) the music is DRM free. I did that too until I began streaming but as always YMMV. I do miss creative vinyl album covers though. Moving off topic however...
 
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decafjava said:
Or not. Does he still tour ?
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He certainly does. He has been on his Never Ending Tour for years. He had to stop due to Covid but he started again this month and has dates booked through 2024. The poor guy basically lives on his tour bus although he has a number of homes. Despite his shaky live performances, I found his most recent album "Rough and Rowdy Ways" to be excellent.
 
Knowing when to hang it up seems to be a skill

(that many don’t seem to have)

I suspect the limelight and attention are really hard to shy away from.
 
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I was wondering if Iron Maiden can perform songs from "Senjutsu" as well as the album.
that would be an incredible concert.
they were great in 1982-1991, and better in this century.
 
icanhazmac said:
Rush: Another of my absolute favorite bands, up to Grace Under Pressure, that became almost painful to see live in the last few years. All incredible talents but Geddy's voice just couldn't hold up. I almost wish that after 1990 they would have found someone who could carry his tone to tour with.
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Geddy cold never sing live, since 1982 when i first saw them.
BUT
Rush put on a great show!
many think the Clockwork Angels might have been their best tour, which is a plus.
I still can't get over how great the album is, Headlong flight is amazing, and gets better every listen
while The Wreckers and the Garden might be their best songs ever,
according to iTunes review about 10 years ago.
I brought "hemispheres" home were i worked (record store) the day that was released.
 
MBAir2010 said:
I was wondering if Iron Maiden can perform songs from "Senjutsu" as well as the album.
that would be an incredible concert.
they were great in 1982-1991, and better in this century.
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I saw them on their Book of Souls tour and they sounded fantastic!!! Not to mention they actually had a lot of energy on stage. I don't know if I will be able to see them this time around and now that you mention it, I would be curious too!
 
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MBAir2010 said:
I was wondering if Iron Maiden can perform songs from "Senjutsu" as well as the album.
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rhett7660 said:
I saw them on their Book of Souls tour and they sounded fantastic!!!
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Up the irons! The number of the beast tour was my first concert!

I have been thinking about seeing them again before they call it quits but my ideal show is Live After Death. While the last set list is at least 50% my favorite era I'm just not sure I care to endure the general public for the other 50%. I'm not sure if I'm getting lazy or less tolerant in my old age... perhaps its both.
 
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Silencio said:
Siouxsie Sioux retired from music after losing her singing voice, and her split from Budgie effectively ended the Banshees regardless. She's a big loss — glad I got to see her perform a few times back in the day.
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Siouxsie is an interesting case because she became a better singer mid-career then ended up blowing out her voice anyway. I think her vocal peak, at least if the "no overdubs" statement on the album sleeve is true, is on Nocturne (Aqua Net fans rejoice: yes, that really is Robert Smith and Siouxsie Sioux in the same band!).
 
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icanhazmac said:
Up the irons! The number of the beast tour was my first concert!

I have been thinking about seeing them again before they call it quits but my ideal show is Live After Death. While the last set list is at least 50% my favorite era I'm just not sure I care to endure the general public for the other 50%. I'm not sure if I'm getting lazy or less tolerant in my old age... perhaps its both.
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If we can only see "The Parchament" id be happy
 
icanhazmac said:
Up the irons! The number of the beast tour was my first concert!

I have been thinking about seeing them again before they call it quits but my ideal show is Live After Death. While the last set list is at least 50% my favorite era I'm just not sure I care to endure the general public for the other 50%. I'm not sure if I'm getting lazy or less tolerant in my old age... perhaps its both.
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Not to age myself, but man I would have loved to have seen them on that tour. First time seeing them was on either Fear of the Dark or No Prayers for the Dying... I can't remember which as I was in high school at the time. I would have loved to have seen them on any of the tours before then with Number of the Beast being the one I would have loved to have seen! \m/
 
Apple_Robert said:
I think the danger has long past these guys who are trying to recapture their youth. Any nodules on the vocal chord like Elton and so many others got is something that they would have experienced long ago.

The problem with many of these guys (barring Geddy who practiced regularly) is that they haven't been training their vocal muscles much less learned how to breath properly. The training has to be done just like someone who is training for a race. When there hasn't been any consistent training, the singers try the forcing the notes from the chest or worst from the nasal cavity which makes the pitch and tone look and sound like a major earthquake on the Richter scale.

The smaller venues are easy money for the old guys. People who come don't usually hear reality. They hear the past. That is why so many fans say 'he sounded just like he did years ago.'

I don't think it is possible for the singers in the videos to give the fans their money's worth. The singers need to let go and move with life.
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Live by the singing, die by the singing.

Hopefully they just saved a ton of the money they made and they don't need to make more.
 
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PsychoSync said:
When i saw this thread's title i immediately thought of Genesis. I absolutely adore this band, all of it, the Peter Gabriel era, then Phil Collins etc... I saw them in 2007 in Montreal and it was a good show, Phil could still sing, not perfectly but it was alright. He could still play the drums. But to be honest in 2007 i would say the performance was at about 65-70% of how good they were in the 70's - 80's. But this last tour... ho God, that hurts. Even if i won tickets for a show, i would not have gone to see it. I listened to so many of their live recordings and the were so good, so energic, Phil had such a good voice, a unique voice. A lot of people went to see the show, it has been a really succesful tour but that is not how i want to remember my favorite band.
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But that's the problem - nobody knows what they're going to get until after they've already paid and attended. Especially the people at the first city of the tour (others could possibly read reviews or watch a bootleg to get an idea).
 
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Relentless Power said:
CD?…….CD?!?!

Dude, you need to go lossless audio-full digital.:D But I realize you’re an older guy in his late 60’s that doesn’t care about that.
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What do you think a CD is (lossless audio full digital)? Unless the source for the FLAC or whatever you're referring to is better than the source used for the CD I doubt you're gaining anything (except convenience of where you can listen). You can make a 44.1khz FLAC of a 44.1khz original but that doesn't mean it's better than a 44.1khz CD of the same material. Maybe if you were comparing FLAC to an MP3, you might have a point (but CDs were what you specifically took issue with). EDIT: I'm guessing you're referring to the convenience/streaming aspect.
 
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MBAir2010 said:
I was wondering if Iron Maiden can perform songs from "Senjutsu" as well as the album.
that would be an incredible concert.
they were great in 1982-1991, and better in this century.
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System of a Down-‘Chop Suey’ comes to mind. :D

One of my all-time favorites.
 
pdoherty said:
Unless the source for the FLAC or whatever you're referring to is better than the source used for the CD I doubt you're gaining anything
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Further, I think the way people perceive sound quality is highly influenced by the format and by the device they used to listen to music when their tastes were forming.

Those who began by listening to MP3s played through laptop speakers or cheap earbuds might feel lossless AACs on an iMac's speakers sound pretty good. Similarly, I grew up listening mostly to records. So anything on vinyl sounds warm and inviting to me. But somebody who loves megabass and wants maxed-out levels on everything probably prefers CDs or uncompressed digital files.

For anybody interested in doing a deep dive on this stuff, this is a cool book:
us.macmillan.com

Perfecting Sound Forever

In 1915, Thomas Edison proclaimed that he could record a live performance and reproduce it perfectly, shocking audiences who found themselves unable to tell ...
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"In 1915, Thomas Edison proclaimed that he could record a live performance and reproduce it perfectly, shocking audiences who found themselves unable to tell whether what they were hearing was an Edison Diamond Disc or a flesh-and-blood musician."

Now, here's what early 1900s recordings actually sound like:

Index | UCSB Cylinder Audio Archive

cylinders.library.ucsb.edu cylinders.library.ucsb.edu
 
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But that's the problem - nobody knows what they're going to get until after they've already paid and attended. Especially the people at the first city of the tour (others could possibly read reviews or watch a bootleg to get an idea).
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Tony Banks might be with the ticket price
 
How about: 'How long can an old band continue to call themselves by the same name, and have no original members, or only one original member'.

I was on a 'Cruise To The Edge' 'prog-rock' cruise, and overheard a conversation that had my head spinning. Apparently one of the bands had split, and the two 'bands' were touring under the same name. Um, what? I just checked out at that point. Wow...

Was Van Halen without Sammy, really Van Halen? :oops::cool:

Carry on... (Rock on?)
 
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