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Should long term members be given "veteran status"

  • Yes, show the old timers some respect

    Votes: 48 41.7%
  • No, its not worth it

    Votes: 37 32.2%
  • Everyone on the forums should be treated as equals

    Votes: 30 26.1%

  • Total voters
    115
I have to say that the only thing that I really dislike about this board is the 'ranking' system. It is no guarantee of anything at all. I'd do away with it all together then, heaven forbid, people would have to think for themselves when judging the 'value' of a contribution. The other thing that makes me laugh is the idea that people can somehow be rated when in most cases there is not a definitive answer to a query - in any case on what basis would you judge it?
 
calculus said:
The other thing that makes me laugh is the idea that people can somehow be rated when in most cases there is not a definitive answer to a query - in any case on what basis would you judge it?

Well i see a big difference between an answer that is given to help even if it doesn't and an answer like "you sux0rs, you are stupid. It's easy to do that if you weren't so stupid. Pwned".

Extreme i know but hopefully you get my point. Anyway users wouldn't be voted per reply but what another user thinks of them in general. Ever see a troll online you really wanted the mods to get rid of but they didn't, then you vote him down so other people know he's a troll.
 
MacNut said:
With the amount of active posters those who I would consider veterans would have at least 2000-2500 posts.

I think it is a very objective proposition, especially since the original poster has 2470 posts. :D
Quite a safe move. "Close the door, but keep me in !".

I've been checking this forum for some months now, and my conclusions about relevant data for assessing the "value" of somebody's input are as follows:
- date of joining: not so relevant to the value of the posts and to the community;
- age of the poster: not so relevant to the value of the posts and to the community;
- number of posts: not so relevant to the value of the posts and to the community.
It's all about quality !

Of course, the longer in the mac business could be an indication, but honestly, there are some living proofs that it's not linked. A 16-year old "kiddo", member for 2 weeks and with 23 posts, might help me more with a mac issue than a 50-year old "veteran" who thinks that Appleworks is only for Apple IIe.

So, my advice to MacNut: put your own joining date in the signature if you think it can elevate the perception by your pairs.

As of me / avatar / 500 posts: well, when I get there, it'll be a new toy to play with, but really not a big deal... And yes, the ranking already includes this concept of how-many posts.
 
MacNut said:
I am talking about the members who have been here for say 6 months and already have 500 posts, As more newer members get avatars its diluting the forums and the ability to see who has been here a while vs the person who just signed up. Im suggesting some sort of veteran marker for those who have actually been here for a longer period of time, not just the number of posts they have.

I don't think the time necessarely means anything how much a member is contributing to the community. 6 month or 12 month or 2 years? How does that matter. Maybe someone is around for quite some time and never really contributes by helping others or starting "interesting!" threads or so.

If 500 is a good count for getting an avatar is another question. I have no opinion on that.

Cheers
LaForge
 
josh.thomas said:
Well, look who's gotten themselves a 'tar and MR status within 24 hours. :) lol
Now there will be something else for that MR member to whine about.
 
ive been posting for years and im just about at 500, i come here every day and post, and really enjoy myself, but I dont think it should be reaised, if you really think so, add their join date to the acatar, but not raise the count
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i lurk a lot. i post when i feel i have something to contribute. i don't think that takes away from anything.

getting a 'tar is not really a goal for me, it is just an acknowledgement when i get to a certain number of posts. i think the count should remain the same.

seems that for some eager members it is almost a vanity thing, which is fine as long as it doesn't become spam.
 
I just came here earlier today, and saw the messge 'tars temporarily disabled'! :eek:

I thought it was all because of this thread and people making a fuss. well thank goodness the tar's are back now.

and why have this discussion anyway? that's for the mods to take care of. :cool:



interesting fact - I just checked celebrian23's profile - we've got the exact same join date - only 4 years apart! I thought that was a rare conincidence! :eek:
although I gess not since the number of people who've joined now must be fairly high... :(
 
MacNut said:
I am talking about the members who have been here for say 6 months and already have 500 posts, As more newer members get avatars its diluting the forums and the ability to see who has been here a while vs the person who just signed up. Im suggesting some sort of veteran marker for those who have actually been here for a longer period of time, not just the number of posts they have.

I agree. ;tars 4 length of time on Macrumors please!:D

Hopes no one sees he's been posting at 0.28 post for 3 years and is still on 350ish posts :eek: :D
 
MOFS said:
I agree. ;tars 4 length of time on Macrumors please!:D

Hopes no one sees he's been posting at 0.28 post for 3 years and is still on 350ish posts :eek: :D

I'm with you!

:p

.22 posts per day - over 4 years...
 
I vote we keep it at 500, but....

We should have a system where if someone makes a really stupid suggestion ( like this one ), then other members can take post points away from a member.

This would help weight the value of a poster's comments...

How many points do I lose for this idea? :D

Max.
 
maxvamp said:
We should have a system where if someone makes a really stupid suggestion ( like this one ), then other members can take post points away from a member.

This would help weight the value of a poster's comments...

How many points do I lose for this idea? :D

Which brings up an interesting point - would it then be possible for a member to achieve a negative post count? :eek: :p ;) :D
 
~Shard~ said:
Which brings up an interesting point - would it then be possible for a member to achieve a negative post count? :eek: :p ;) :D


No, we just come over to their house, take away their mac, and give them a TRS-80 with a 300 buad modem !!.

Max.
 
maxvamp said:
No, we just come over to their house, take away their mac, and give them a TRS-80 with a 300 buad modem !!.

You don't even want to *see* the storm I can raise with one of those, my friend. I was weaned on a Color Computer like other kids were weaned on Sesame Street. :D
 
Many people feel that 500 post's is not alot. However when you see the people that have 6000+ posts you know. "what a waste of a life":p
 
jamesW135 said:
Many people feel that 500 post's is not alot. However when you see the people that have 6000+ posts you know. "what a waste of a life":p

*checks own post count*
whew! I'm under 6k...


for now. :eek:


Anyone have any profound and brilliant ideas as to the changing of the post count avatar thing?
 
katie ta achoo said:
*checks own post count*
whew! I'm under 6k...


for now. :eek:


Anyone have any profound and brilliant ideas as to the changing of the post count avatar thing?
I'm a member at another "PHP" forum, and they have a "rep" system. So members can give other members + or - rep according to how good there posts are, and if they are helpful, so this will stop people from worrying about post count, and they will worry about getting a lot of rep, but the only way to do so it by posting with intelligence.

So, i'm not sure if it can be set up here, but maybe it can and then maybe there can be like a certain amount of rep point untill you can get an avatar.

This Idea might also be unfair for some people, beacaue people could get rep becuase there more popuar then others, so some people will get it faster then others.

Also, the more rep you have, the more powerful the rep you give out is. And the long your a member and the more posts you have the more rep you get... Like if you get 1000 posts, you get 1 rep point and stuff.

(I have 5000 rep points on that forum :D) but people have like 100 000 +...

Anyway, that's my idea. But I think the people who already earned avatars should get to keep them.
 
I think I understand what MacNut is meaning, and it's not what people are taking it for (then again, maybe I'm wrong and everyone else is right). What I think he means it it be nice to sorta see the "generation" the user is from. Like when I lurked here there was a generation of posters, most of them have moved on and no longer post here. Then around when I joined there was another generation, and another generation has since passed and now there's a new generation of people that I don't really know that well (don't get me wrong, I'm sure they're all nice people and I have nothing against them). But I'm sure there are other people like me who have been around for a few years and look back on the old times fondly, and it'd be nice to be able to quickly see the other people who are still around from that period.
 
What about a system like the Apple Discussions Web Site, you get 5 points for being helpful 10 for solving a problems and different levels. That would be another way. But really the current system is fine, you know in this forum who to listen to. But this is one system thats around if QUALITY was to be linked in. Some guy is on 80000, with 39000 posts, jeez

Level 5: 50000 - 99999 pts
Level 4: 8000 - 49999 pts
Level 3: 1000 - 7999 pts
Level 2: 150 - 999 pts
Level 1: 30 - 149 pts
Hosts
Apple Employees
Helpful (5 points)
Solved (10 points)
 
Just out of interest, how are the points accumulated on the Apple Discussions forums? Does it require a moderator to watch each thread and add points accordingly or is the system automated such that the original poster can give points as they see fit? Does it have a mechanism in place to account for people other than the original poster to give points if they find the thread useful also?

Not trying to drill your idea JRM PowerPod, just interested. :)
 
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