I realize you directed this at Gecko, but as I started that line of posting, I'll throw my $.02 in.
I don't think an "enthusiast group" equates with a pack of rabid fanboys. Do you? I came and joined this site to discuss my macbook pro, get some news, info, suggestions, etc etc. In fact, I'm on numerous enthusiast forums. It's an informative way to stay on top of products you own and love. I love my iphone and my macbook pro.
That said, what *I* find pathetic is the constant and pervasive need to diss "Micro$oft, Winblows, Windoze," and whatever else childish, un-funny crap people come up with. It's a waste of time. Can't we just discuss Apple products without the need for the pissing contest? You sound like morons, seriously. I feel bad for anyone who speaks and thinks with that level of impenetrable bias, because it's borderline lemming mentality.
Also, it makes me a tiny bit ashamed to own a mac and an iphone.