I would rather have them force Apple to allow downgrade or re-sign the last update of previous iOS versions, e.g. iOS 14.8.1, iOS 13.7, etc.
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Sideloading Bill Would Allow 'Malware, Scams and Data-Exploitation to Proliferate,' Says Apple
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I honestly believe that if iOS is forced to allow side-loading, then Android will be the more secure platform. Just like I find Windows more secure than macOS. Why? Windows and Android have been "battle hardened" like crazy. I fully expect iOS to be a major security mess for the first couple iOS versions after this is allowed.
Apple wants to control everything, and is not and never will be perfect at it. Malware can and will make it through the store. (and has)
Sideloading of apps will always be a requirement for power users.
Android already allows this and can be just as safe. Apple doesn't want to do this for the protection of users, they want to control the market. BIG difference. Really think about that.
Edit: Apple doesn't need to be in the security business. There are anti-malware companies that exist for a reason, and that's all they do. So many ways Apple can protect consumers but they opt out of that because they are co-mingling security issues with their overriding desire to take 30% of the bottom line.
Sideloading of apps will always be a requirement for power users.
Android already allows this and can be just as safe. Apple doesn't want to do this for the protection of users, they want to control the market. BIG difference. Really think about that.
Edit: Apple doesn't need to be in the security business. There are anti-malware companies that exist for a reason, and that's all they do. So many ways Apple can protect consumers but they opt out of that because they are co-mingling security issues with their overriding desire to take 30% of the bottom line.
Sandbox does not mean 100% secure system. I have had stuff break out of the sandbox before in Windows.
Bingo!
This is simply trying to maintain power and control over revenue
“Safety” has not a thing to do with it.
Don’t take the bait people.
Apple is gas lighting you
If Apple were the only game in town, this whole "open 'em up" movement might have some teeth. But they're not!! THERE ARE OPTIONS IF YOU WANT TO SIDE LOAD or hate Tim, or whatever other issues you have with Apple. Go away. Enjoy your options. Leave mine alone. It's not hurting anyone, anything. Why are some so bent on removing choice by making Apple more like Android? It's so bizarre... And exhausting. Stay strong Apple.
I love how people conveniently ignore articles, malware statistics and posts from us that does not show Android is "just as safe as iOS".
As posted earlier -
2FA app with 10,000 Google Play downloads loaded well-known banking trojan
2FA Authenticator offered real 2FA functionality, but it came with strings attached.
arstechnica.com
Adding choice within the Apple hardware world isn’t “removing choice”
That’s not how “choice” works.
You’ll still be able to do things as you always have either way
Apples walled garden will remain.
In fact, if they have to be actually attractive and competitive their own offering is likely to improve!
These senators are clueless. Schumer probably thinks malware is an outfit you wear when shopping.
Why is government wanting to control the business model of a corporation? This should frighten everyone, because no company will be immune to this once they’ve crossed that line.
Why is government wanting to control the business model of a corporation? This should frighten everyone, because no company will be immune to this once they’ve crossed that line.
Half this forum appears clueless.
Sideloading on an Apple device will still be sandboxed.
There will be no impact from scams/malware anymore than scams that already exist and skate right through App review.
Excited to see where this meeting goes tomorrow. Hopefully the committee will schedule it for a vote a some point. The last big anti-trust tech bill passed out of committee with a bipartisan 16-6 vote.
Yeah! How dare anyone think of running Windows or Linux on a Mac!
Oh wait, people actually run Windows and Linux on Macs all the time.
In fact, Boot Camp was a feature of Mac hardware for over a decade, making PC World declare that the best Windows laptop was a MacBook Pro.
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The amount of people on MacRumors who seem totally clueless about Macs is... concerning. I assume you people use Macs, right? It has the Mac App Store on it... do you people actually use that to get all of your apps? Like Chrome and Firefox? Or Steam? And any games on your Mac?
Geez - I just searched for "Mac App Store Chrome". AFAICT, there's no valid way to download Chrome from the Mac App Store, but there's a lot of Trojan horses that want you to do this web search and then hand over your Mac's credentials in exchange for "Chrome" (heck, they probably even do install Chrome. And a cryptominer or something.)
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Apple store rules are abusive and change according Apple´s needs.
Dude, just put your self in the pants of the developers, who have business and families to feed. For example... Facebook built a free social network in exchange of gathering data that to show relevant ads. (That's their whole business model)
Before, if you didn't like to be tracked... you wouldn't install Facebook. Well now.... Apple lets you download the app and later asks you... do you want to be tracked?
So now you can have the app and not be tracked. That's abusive, its totally wrong.
Its absolutely not fair, since there is no other place to download those apps.
Apple deserves a bit hit in the head.
If you are concerned to security... just use the official App Store.
I don't think this makes the argument you think it does. This was on the Google Play store, not through sideloading, so this would be akin to malware on the App Store, which also happens. A bit confused here lol.I love how people conveniently ignore articles, malware statistics and posts from us that does not show Android is "just as safe as iOS".
As posted earlier -
2FA app with 10,000 Google Play downloads loaded well-known banking trojan
2FA Authenticator offered real 2FA functionality, but it came with strings attached.
In fairness, I never said that it was more or less secure, I said it could be. Key difference.
I never run any system without malware protection, and ANY SYSTEM is subject to malware. Anyone can be an idiot on Android as much as MacOS or IOS or Windows.
I don't ignore articles, but that's all anecdotal information, and I could find equivalent info for IOS. But 75% of the world runs on Android just fine, and everyone needs to have security built into their plan, not pretend that it doesn't exist just because the Nice People At Apple Are Watching Out For You.
That's not true, never will be true, and is an illusion.
I never run any system without malware protection, and ANY SYSTEM is subject to malware. Anyone can be an idiot on Android as much as MacOS or IOS or Windows.
I don't ignore articles, but that's all anecdotal information, and I could find equivalent info for IOS. But 75% of the world runs on Android just fine, and everyone needs to have security built into their plan, not pretend that it doesn't exist just because the Nice People At Apple Are Watching Out For You.
That's not true, never will be true, and is an illusion.
I love how people conveniently ignore articles, malware statistics and posts from us that does not show Android is "just as safe as iOS".
As posted earlier -
2FA app with 10,000 Google Play downloads loaded well-known banking trojan
2FA Authenticator offered real 2FA functionality, but it came with strings attached.
It certainly does make a point. With side-loading there no longer needs to be approval from Apple. So if one of these gets out there, Apple can't remove it from their store because its on Store X.
If this came about I would love to see Apple close the App Store for a few days. Can you imagine the resulting pressure on the idiots in Congress?
OK, I suppose this isn't realistic, but unless the silent vast majority stand up for common sense and the security of Apple's ecosystem, a misled and uninformed minority will make far-reaching disastrous decisions that may never get reversed.
OK, I suppose this isn't realistic, but unless the silent vast majority stand up for common sense and the security of Apple's ecosystem, a misled and uninformed minority will make far-reaching disastrous decisions that may never get reversed.
I’m in two minds about this. For my own personal device I could just choose not to side load anything if I want. Probably be an option you’d have to enable so if I left that off I’d be in a no worse. Nothing would have changed.
Having the choice though to add another App Store if I wanted or an Apple which Apple has refused to allow in the App Store. Of course that’s where the malware risk becomes greater.
The problem is the unwashed masses. Someone could tell them to download some new fun game, just turn on side loading first and off they go putting on malware. At the same time how is this any different from emails, websites trying to trick them into the same on regular computers.
I think hence I’d like to not see side loading as while I’m fine myself with dealing with this, my parents or some of my friends maybe not so much. The fact that Apple blocks this is likely helping them avoiding getting malware on their devices. So I think giving up that freedom is for the better good of all iOS users really. Honestly the App Store is so good I don’t feel like I’m missing out anyway.
Having the choice though to add another App Store if I wanted or an Apple which Apple has refused to allow in the App Store. Of course that’s where the malware risk becomes greater.
The problem is the unwashed masses. Someone could tell them to download some new fun game, just turn on side loading first and off they go putting on malware. At the same time how is this any different from emails, websites trying to trick them into the same on regular computers.
I think hence I’d like to not see side loading as while I’m fine myself with dealing with this, my parents or some of my friends maybe not so much. The fact that Apple blocks this is likely helping them avoiding getting malware on their devices. So I think giving up that freedom is for the better good of all iOS users really. Honestly the App Store is so good I don’t feel like I’m missing out anyway.
Well burglaries still happen, even with locks and police. I don't understand the attitude "if Apple doesn't handle things 100% perfectly, there is no point"
I don’t think that would have the impact you think it would
If you think the ability to install apps from different sources is the only difference between iPhones and Android phones then you're in for a big surprise.
Then that's Store X's and their customer's problem.
They are worried they can't shutter businesses like Parler and limit free speech.
We keep hearing about you don't get free speech on social media (even though I'd argue it is today's town square). If Apple can shut down any app that they don't agree with because of the speech on it, then they effectively can limit free speech. If you can't go somewhere else, because they close it, then they have greatly overreached. If there is death threats and similar stuff on social media, then report it to the authorities. Apple and the rest of big tech should not be operating as judge, jury, and executioner. They are an unchecked 4th branch of the government at this point.
Apple is so in bed with China that they think this kind of stuff is acceptable. The whole situation is just gross.
Spend that cash that they are hoarding and make ALL of the devices in America. Pay your taxes. Quit relying on slave and cheap labor in China. Embrace America. Cut all the communist ties.
Free speech has never been about protecting popular speech. If they will silence them today, then who will they silence tomorrow? That is what we should all be concerned about.
Easy to look at Android and see all the issues they have with malware in apps. For example, 23 apps expose personal data of more than 100 million Android users. It's pretty rampant.
thehackernews.com
And how much do we really gain if this change happens? Makes it easier to private apps without a jailbreak? Many of the apps available in Cydia had malware and stole data too. I say that as someone who studied quite a few from their popular installers. Super simple to add in all kinds of badness because people don't question, they just want the app free.
23 Android Apps Expose Over 100,000,000 Users' Personal Data
Android apps leaked sensitive data of more than 100 million users, potentially making them a lucrative target for malicious actors.
thehackernews.com
And how much do we really gain if this change happens? Makes it easier to private apps without a jailbreak? Many of the apps available in Cydia had malware and stole data too. I say that as someone who studied quite a few from their popular installers. Super simple to add in all kinds of badness because people don't question, they just want the app free.