I’m sure there’ll be a story in the App Store listing apps compatible with Sign in with Apple.
As of now, with the deadline far off in 2020, there are probably too few apps to create a list.
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I’m sure there’ll be a story in the App Store listing apps compatible with Sign in with Apple.
As of now, with the deadline far off in 2020, there are probably too few apps to create a list.
Disregard, I was trying to sign-in but I guess I had to register first.
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You’re really grasping at straws here to try and pick apart this feature. It’s not working.
Well... you have to meet one basic requirement, and that is the solution must be realistically accessible to the general public. Not only does that mean it must be technically discernible, whatever company/organization offers the solution must also be ubiquitous enough that the service is adopted and trusted. I'd add that the offering entity ought to be one which will stick around, as credentials will be tied to the service being offered, and one not likely to be acquired later by an entity dedicated to data collection and resale/advertising.
Authenticating through individual services directly is certainly the old-fashioned solution which doesn't tie credentials in any capacity to a ubiquitous company, but it is far, far less secure in terms of security (the breach example you gave) than authenticating through any of these services.
I disagree on the fundamental point and am quite glad that Apple is hopping into this game. My reason is that the other companies offering this service are also companies which are interested in data collection and advertising. They are not interested in our privacy. Apple, however, will genuinely endeavor to secure and privatize this connection not just relative to these other entities, but compared to authentication with an individual entity through the traditional means, and that's what I'm looking for. Any of these services are also far, far less likely to be meaningfully breached than accounts with individual entities.
Another benefit to these services is there are fewer credentials out in the wild to manage. For someone who is technically competent a password-managing services like 1Password is adequate, but "Sign in With Apple" (and "Sign in with Google" or "Sign in With Facebook" is much more convenient and easier to remember.
There's not much of an upside for entities which are invested in customer data collection to use "Sign in With Apple" for these privacy-related reasons, which is where the condition of inclusion (restrictions noted) for release into the App Store is going to come into play.
This is wildly nonsensical. It sounds more as though you're trying to disparage this service rather than subject it to any degree of critical thought.
Any of the other data collection services can trivially identify if someone is accessing their service on an Apple device. This data is exposed simply by interacting with an app or website. Whereas obfuscating a wide array of far less trivially obtained data points is a solid benefit to considering "Sign in With Apple" over other "Sign in" options from companies interested in data collection, as well as providing the information which would be obfuscated with "Sign in With Apple" directly to a company.
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They will be required to either support sign in with apple if they want to continue supporting their other options such as sign in with facebook, twitter, google, etc. or stop supporting all of them and do the basic username and password only.
Agreed. It’s pretty hard to find them. As for websites, I suspect not many will offer the option to sign in with apple, since there’s no way Apple can require them to do so like they can require app developers.
App developers will be required to implement it if they already support other quick sign in options such as facebook, twitter or google. Or they will have to stop supporting quick sign in altogether and just do the basic username and password sign in if they refuse to offer sign in with apple.
Websites have been able to do that long before this service came along. Even if you were using Chrome, you would still show up as Chrome on a mac in the user agent. Wherever you need a browser or app the website always know what device you are using.
So, given that you seem to know everything, even what Apple execs are thinking and why, I'm surprised you don't know about "device fingerprinting". Anyone, on any hardware, OS, and browser combination, will be identified as such as soon as they visit a Web site that wants to know those particulars. How you sign in, if that is even required by the Web site, has *nothing* to do with the site knowing you're an Apple user or otherwise. But you just revel in pissing on other people's parade, so these are wasted words, I'm sure.
i will need to understand more about the process to recover account id and associated passwords before i go anywhere near this.
with "traditional" Sign in with... methods such as using google, its clear that the email address associated with that account is known to all parties and is a constant.
if the email address used with apple sign in can be dynamic, etc, i need to understand how and where this info is accessible or at least usable by me when i need to recover a site's id or associated password.
i am only saying that i need to really understand this, not that's its not possible or able to be understood, but i need to really understand it and become comfortable with it before i use it.
sites and apps change their log in page address and methods frequently enough that i already encounter problems when this happens right now while i am using safari to automatically enter id and passwords based on web address.
with "traditional" Sign in with... methods such as using google, its clear that the email address associated with that account is known to all parties and is a constant.
if the email address used with apple sign in can be dynamic, etc, i need to understand how and where this info is accessible or at least usable by me when i need to recover a site's id or associated password.
i am only saying that i need to really understand this, not that's its not possible or able to be understood, but i need to really understand it and become comfortable with it before i use it.
sites and apps change their log in page address and methods frequently enough that i already encounter problems when this happens right now while i am using safari to automatically enter id and passwords based on web address.
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That information (the dynamic email address) is accesible in settings>your name>password & security>apps using your Apple ID, where you will find a list of all the websites or apps where you’ve used sign in with apple along with the fake email address associated with each of them.
thanks. appreciate your info.
i assume that since there is no tab or mention in Password & Security of Apps right now, that it just will appear after i actually create such an account (typical of apple...)
question, i assume this is not just an iOS thing?
does macOS Catalina also use this same system?
so if i don't have my iPhone with me i can still sign in to a site on my mac?
maybe Keychain syncs this sign in info?
Right, the 'apps using your Apple ID' tab only show up after you use sing in with apple for the first time. and so does 'Forward To' under settings>your name>Name, Phone Numbers, Email. And sign in with Apple is not iOS exclusive. It is associated with your Apple ID so the feature is available even when logging on to a supporting website or app from a non-apple device/OS.
Weird. I see the ‘apps using your Apple ID’ after using it today but there is no trace of ‘Forward To’ under settings>your name>Name, Phone Numbers, Email.
Nope, I’m not saying that anyone have to pay. But with the scandals lately on data collection for reselling I wonder if a lot of companies could potentially loose revenue when people get more concerned about privacy and data collection gets more difficult. And if so, will they loose so much that those free (data collecting) services will eventually become paid services? Or will they get even more aggressive collecting and selling user info and ads?
I block lots of stuff, including sign on with Google/Facebook amongst others, hope to find out how to unblock the sign on with Apple though, I trust them much more than the above mentioned ones.
While I appreciate your post it's a good Idea to mention the site is in German.
Mmm...first, do you think MR knows which Apps support this, only Apple knows, second, all sites that have sign on with others like Google/Facebook/Twitter work with Apple, so literally thousands if not 10-100's thousands.
While I appreciate your post it's a good Idea to mention the site is in German.
Mmm...first, do you think MR knows which Apps support this, only Apple knows, second, all sites that have sign on with others like Google/Facebook/Twitter work with Apple, so literally thousands if not 10-100's thousands.