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Sign in with Apple: What It Is and How It Works
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I agree with your perspectives about being able to communicate with users without having their real email address but I think it would be easy for companies to know it is not your "direct" email address. From the screen shots in the article it looks like the Apple created email addresses used for forwarding messages use the domain "privaterelay.appleid.com" so it would be easy for a company / website to know they are not getting your actual email address.
Did you even read the article? It will only be required as an OPTION on sites that only allow log in with google, Facebook, Twitter, etc. credentials. (All three of your points apply to this scenario if you want to use sites that only allow log in this way. Your solution would not be applicable.) For Sites that have their own username/password access, it will not be a required OPTION. (you can do whatever you want in this case including your solutionThis
You can continue to log in using Facebook credentials on sites that don’t have their own username/password access, and you can continue to use your username/password for those that do.
People are lazy and also don’t want to keep up with variable password requirements. This is simply a more private way to enter sites without google and Facebook accumulating and selling your info.
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They absolutely would know, because the email address will be completely random and will point to an Apple-controlled domain. It will be trivially easy for companies to detect if they were given one of these Apple-generated addresses.
Every service apple has is copied from a competitor. Spotify killer, Netflix killer, Dropbox killer.
Well there is tracking, and then there is TRACKING! I'm sure they are, they just don't go around selling it to the highest bidder over and over and over again. I trust Apple much more than others and am ok with this.Apple say they're tracking you but only to "prevent fraud"... whatever that means
I for one will not use the anonymous email feature. It is really stupid to suggest that all companies that use authentication don't need to know who you are.
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I highly doubt that. What you care about is some surface level illusion of security.
The 'forward to' seems to appear only when you choose to hide your real email address and a fake one is created to be sent to the website or app you signed into (which is what I did, by the way). Otherwise, if you did choose to reveal your real email address, it doesn't really make sense to have the 'forward to' section in your Apple ID settings since no email forwarding is taking place.
If you use this how would you sign in to an account from a non Apple ID linked device? Say at work on a windows machine?
Thanks. That makes sense. I signed in with Apple for an app in iOS, there was no option to hide my email. I assume this will be an option when I sign in on the web instead of in an app.
Perhaps. When I tested sign in with apple, I did it on a website and got the option to hide my email. I haven’t tested in an app yet because I had a hard time just finding anywhere to try sign in with apple, and I found the website where I tested much sooner than any app supporting it. Hardly any apps or websites are supporting sign in with apple right now, and it will probably remain like that until next April when it becomes a requirement.
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Even the Apple Card. It closely resembles the card that Google Wallet used to have before it was merged with Android Pay to form the current Google Pay platform.
Yes, absolutely true and not in dispute. However, the only legitimate reason for a company to want your email address is to communicate with you regarding the product - check, that issue is resolved. The only reason they would need your real email address is if they planned to do something with that address other than communicate, like sell it - that's the point of Sign in with Apple.
The post I was responding to originally stated that company's would not be happy not getting "real" email addresses and that is what I was replying to.
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Do you already have an account with Kayak? Or did you use "Sign in with Apple" to create a new Kayak account.
I have an existing Kayak account, but it appears there is not away to change in Settings (similar with WordPress) to use/link "Sign in with Apple"?
It's weird that under 'add social connections' when you are signed in they have Facebook, Google, etc but not Apple.
I wrote that the app would not know. You write that "they" would know. Terminator was a movie, machines are not yet cognizant and referring to applications or machines as "they" is premature and perhaps a little paranoid.
Now, if you are referring to the people who write the apps, you are right in that if they look they will see an email address that they would likely recognize is not a person's main email address. But why should they care? It works to communicate with which is the sole legitimate purpose for them asking for any email address in the first place. The only reason they would care that it is not your actual day-to-day email address is they couldn't monetize the address they have, which is a significant feature of Sign in with Apple.
So, why is it that "they" care?
I’m not sure if I ever had an account or not. I had the app on my phone and I was signed out and had the option. Did you sign out in the app and try logging in?
Because doing so reduces their liability in a data breach. I would guess that literally _most_ businesses would love this. They are not in the business of selling your email, and would happily not even collect it. Sony, Target, any smaller firm that's had a high profile data breach, they'd all happily let Appple carry that weight.
Yes, for example the Words with Friends people would have benefitted greatly.
Is there a list anywhere of website and/or apps that support this yet?
I like how this nonsense is posted even though the article says nothing is tracked.
When you login without typing in a password, where do you think the authentication credentials are coming from? Most likely from apples servers. What is preventing apple from looking at their own server logs to see when and where that info is going?