Signs of Apple Music Begin Showing Up in iOS 8.4 Beta Music App

mgs4 said:
If the streaming quality isn't as good as Spotify's (320kbps) then there's not too much point many people switching over imo.
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Most people literally cannot tell the difference. This is all about convenience and having a human choosing the music, rather than an algorithm. If those things aren't worth switching to you then that's fine, but it'll be worth it to countless others - not to even mention those who buy an iDevice but don't do much with it. They'll have the 3 month free subscription included with the device out of the box. Take that away after 3 months and how many people do you think WON'T sign up? This is going to be big.
 
Mazeman said:
Are Beatles included with Apple Music like they are with iTunes? I heard they weren't.
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I assume they are included. Apple states their iTunes store catalogue is available for streaming. We'll just have to see. If not, you can still buy the Beatles albums and add the to your music collection.
 
leepalisoc said:
Then set up a Family Sharing. That would be easier. Make the account that you are all using as the Organizer so all of you could still share the apps, music, movies you purchased from that account.
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Wouldn't that mean that all of the other accounts purchases charge through the organizer's credit card as well? This is how family sharing works right? I'm just trying to make sure. Is there any way at all to just have Apple Music be charged to the organizer, while other purchases by the rest of the family go through their own credit cards?
 
natepdx92 said:
I assume they are included. Apple states their iTunes store catalogue is available for streaming. We'll just have to see. If not, you can still buy the Beatles albums and add the to your music collection.
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That would be awesome if the beatles were included w/  Music streaming service. But I have a gut feeling that some artists like the Beatles & AC/DC wouldn't want their albums available for streaming....unfortunately.
 
fastasleep said:
25,000 song limit??
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Where did you here this?? I'm pretty sure you ca stream unlimited songs on demand and your entire library automatically stored in the cloud. There will probably be a limit for saving songs (you haven't bought) for offline listening.
 
Wreckus said:
That would be awesome if the beatles were included w/  Music streaming service. But I have a gut feeling that some artists like the Beatles & AC/DC wouldn't want their albums available for streaming....unfortunately.
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I feel you. At least you can still buy them (there was a point when they weren't on iTunes at all). I have all their albums already. Haha.
 
natepdx92 said:
Where did you here this?? I'm pretty sure you ca stream unlimited songs on demand and your entire library automatically stored in the cloud. There will probably be a limit for saving songs (you haven't bought) for offline listening.
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25,000 tracks is the current maximum supported library size with iTunes Match. That includes ALL tracks, not just your non-iTunes purchased tracks. If this limit remain in Apple Music, that's a big deal to many of us.
 
RichardH1 said:
25,000 tracks is the current maximum supported library size with iTunes Match. That includes ALL tracks, not just your non-iTunes purchased tracks. If this limit remain in Apple Music, that's a big deal to many of us.
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I think the 25,000 limit will only apply to songs you personally upload to  music. Imagine you can have all the songs you want that is available in the  music library.
 
RichardH1 said:
25,000 tracks is the current maximum supported library size with iTunes Match. That includes ALL tracks, not just your non-iTunes purchased tracks. If this limit remain in Apple Music, that's a big deal to many of us.
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https://www.apple.com/itunes/itunes-match/

Scroll down to "How iTunes Match Works."

It says: You can store up to 25,000 songs in iCloud (more if songs are purchased from the iTunes Store)

Songs that you buy are NOT included in the 25,000.
 
Any word what happens if you have more 25,000 tracks in your iTunes library? Will it not upload songs that the Apple Music catalog doesn't have.
 
Apple music will be released in 8.4 and we have an article saying its in 8.4 beta ? Am I missing something ? /shrug
 
unattributed said:
Can somebody help me understand the difference between Spotify's 320 kbps MP3 / OGG Vorbis and Apple Music's 256 kbps AAC? I'ld really like to know about the difference and the ups and downs of each format
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I suggest looking each up online for rich descriptions. Here's quickies:
-AAC is usually referred to as a "more modern" codec vs. MP3. Many of us would argue that 256kbps AAC > 320kbps MP3 but I wonder if any of us could actually & consistently hear the difference in a blind tests.
-All 3 are somewhat popular compression formats. If you have much of an iTunes library, you probably already have some AAC and MP3s.
-Apple has defaulted to 256kbps AAC (named "iTunes Plus") for iTunes store purchases. This is Apple basically saying that 256kbps is "good enough." Usually whatever Apple endorses around here is considered ideal and often the "one and only proper choice" and all other options are garbage, "99% don't need" and so on. Of course, when Apple shifts it's defaults, we'll shift right with them so take such views with that in mind.
-MP3 is typically more broadly compatible outside of the Apple ecosystem. For example, you might have a car CD player that can play MP3 (on) CDs but it's less likely it will play AAC CDs. This is not a huge issue as Apple pretty heavily dominates the music world but it is something that probably favors MP3 over AAC for broadest compatibility.

My suggestion: take a few of your favorite CDs. Import a couple of favorite songs into iTunes using AAC and MP3 and then listen to the tracks to see if you can hear a difference. If you live with someone or can get a friend to help you, have them play the tracks and take notes of which versions you think sound the best. See if you consistently pick one or the other. Stuff like file sizes and that won't really vary enough to make much difference.

If you can't hear much of a difference, you can avoid letting this particular spec influence your decisions.
 
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unattributed said:
From what I read it states that an Apple Music subscription will include "iTunes Match" like uploading your own music to iCloud, hopefully not against your storage limit :D
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The last entry on the apple music faq:

"Does Apple Music work with iTunes Match?

Yes. Apple Music and iTunes Match are independent but complementary."
 
leepalisoc said:
256 AAC is better than 320 KBps (or same quality at least). Samsung still makes smartphones for people caught up by numbers.
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Here are a few points: You stated that "256 AAC is better than 320 KBps" conveniently evading the fact that you don't know what codec Spotify uses, so you don't even know what you are talking about. Spotify uses the Vorbis codec, which is generally considered on par with other modern codecs such as AAC. Either way, it's important to note that you can't directly compare codecs. It really depends on the source, the used encoder and encoder options. A standardized codec is just assuring that the produced files can always be decoded, but the encoding process is NOT standardized, meaning that the encoder is constantly being fine tuned. So a file encoded five years ago may sound significantly worse than the same source encoded 2015 with the same bitrate and codec, but a newer version of the encoder.

The argument that can be made is that at bitrates beyond 192 kb/s, there's no chance to reliably tell the encoded file and the original source apart anyway. So you might as well save the traffic.

About the whole Samsung thing: People could now turn the tables and claim that people like you are the reason why Apple is so successful: Technically completely illiterate, but 100% convinced that they are buying the greatest and latest for no good reason at all. But I don't know about that.
 
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kewl.

I sure hope its not tied to valid CC like Match is.... The fact u have Store credit but unable to use it for service is crap. It's there, so u should be able to use it as u see fit. Otherwise i'll be limited to reduced content from from non-U.S. :p
 
Soooooo... to get the 3 months free trial do i have to sign up?
Can't I just get it free for 3 months and then be given the option to sign up... i know that you can probably cancel anytime before the 3 months expire, but thats a lot of hassle...

I'm not a huge music fan, so i don't want to be tied into anything...i just want to trial it before i make a decision, but i feel this is making sign up before i make a decision.

MacRumors said:



As of this afternoon, many developers and public beta testers running the latest iOS 8.4 beta are seeing popups for Apple's upcoming Apple Music service within the Music app.

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When opening the app, there's a popup for Apple Music that prompts users to start a three month free trial. Tapping on that option leads to another screen that lets users choose either an individual plan for $9.99 for a family plan for $14.99, but there's no way to actually sign up for a plan. Choosing a plan simply grays out the option and does not allow users to progress further in the signup process.

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These options have been showing up for some users since the latest iOS 8.4 beta was seeded yesterday morning, but many more users are now seeing signs of the Apple Music service as Apple begins to implement backend tools to support subscription signups at launch.

Apple Music will launch on June 30 as part of iOS 8.4, and it will be built into the Music app. The full Apple Music experience includes an on-demand streaming music service, the Beats 1 radio station, and Apple Connect, a social networking service connecting fans and artists.

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