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Signs of Apple Music Begin Showing Up in iOS 8.4 Beta Music App

PhiLLoW said:
Is sharing a credit card common in the US? I can't imagine a whole family pays everything from one single bank account.


If you have to share a credit card to use the family sharing feature the whole talking in the keynote was just dumb false advertising again.
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Very common. When the bank issues you a credit card they will also issue one for your spouse if you ask for it. You don't have to have a shared card to use Apple Music, but presumably the charge will just apply automatically to the card that they have on file. I suppose you could ask your spouse to pay half if that's a concern to you, but that's just silly.
 
This will be big for people with iphones if people use siri to play any song. You can tell siri to basically play any song you can think of and itll play it thru apple music. Very convenient in a car with siri or car with iphone connected by bluetooth. that alone is the reason i am going to apple music.
 
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johngordon said:
That kind of misses the point though, which is that a household typically only needs one CD and anyone living there can listen to it.

The means of delivery / technology isn't really relevant. I think the equivalence is valid regardless of the technology, i.e. it is reasonable for people living in different properties to purchase separately, and makes sense for people living in the same household not to have to pay separately.
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So what if little Johnny wanted to listen to the CD at the same time as you because it's the hottest new album out there? Being in the same household doesn't always affect these decisions, especially with kids. Sure, I could easily see two adults working it out in the same household, and I can even see compromises to make kids work. But, at the same time, it detracts from the analogy as a whole, which is why I don't think it's incredibly suitable.
 
I am personally excited for this. I switched to Spotify a few years ago. One thing I liked about iTunes was the album view. Spotify doesn't have this. I feel like browsing my music library (saved songs) is easier on iTunes than on Spotify. With Apple Music I can add more music to my iTunes collection. I have a few playlists on Spotify that I can easily recreate in iTunes. Can't wait.
 
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More evidence of Apple Music found.

If you click a "Buy on iTunes" link that you find in various apps (in my case TuneIn Radio) it takes you to the Apple Music streaming page for that song rather than the iTunes Store, from there you click the 3 dots to bring up the option to "show in iTunes Store"

If you try to stream the song looks like it will load but then just not play (the scrub bar jumps from beginning to end of song)
 
HobeSoundDarryl said:
I suggest looking each up online for rich descriptions. Here's quickies:
-AAC is usually referred to as a "more modern" codec vs. MP3. Many of us would argue that 256kbps AAC > 320kbps MP3 but I wonder if any of us could actually & consistently hear the difference in a blind tests.
-All 3 are somewhat popular compression formats. If you have much of an iTunes library, you probably already have some AAC and MP3s.
-Apple has defaulted to 256kbps AAC (named "iTunes Plus") for iTunes store purchases. This is Apple basically saying that 256kbps is "good enough." Usually whatever Apple endorses around here is considered ideal and often the "one and only proper choice" and all other options are garbage, "99% don't need" and so on. Of course, when Apple shifts it's defaults, we'll shift right with them so take such views with that in mind.
-MP3 is typically more broadly compatible outside of the Apple ecosystem. For example, you might have a car CD player that can play MP3 (on) CDs but it's less likely it will play AAC CDs. This is not a huge issue as Apple pretty heavily dominates the music world but it is something that probably favors MP3 over AAC for broadest compatibility.

My suggestion: take a few of your favorite CDs. Import a couple of favorite songs into iTunes using AAC and MP3 and then listen to the tracks to see if you can hear a difference. If you live with someone or can get a friend to help you, have them play the tracks and take notes of which versions you think sound the best. See if you consistently pick one or the other. Stuff like file sizes and that won't really vary enough to make much difference.

If you can't hear much of a difference, you can avoid letting this particular spec influence your decisions.
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thx for that piece of information. I'm going to try this out when I have time to :)
 
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Marvin1379 said:
The last entry on the apple music faq:

"Does Apple Music work with iTunes Match?

Yes. Apple Music and iTunes Match are independent but complementary."
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yeah, I read that as well, but I'm not quite sure what it means though :/ Does it mean Apple Music will do the same uploading to iCloud as iTunes Match? Or will you still need an iTunes Match subscription to profit from this feature?
 
Benjamin Frost said:
So you can guarantee that iTunes Radio will be coming to the UK with no ads and unlimited skips to current iTunes Match subscribers?
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No, but people assumed because iTunes Radio hadn't rolled out everywhere that Apple Music would be US only as well.

Or rather, they took news of Apple Music as an excuse to bitch about the lack of worldwide iTunes Radio.
 
vladzaharia said:
So what if little Johnny wanted to listen to the CD at the same time as you because it's the hottest new album out there? Being in the same household doesn't always affect these decisions, especially with kids. Sure, I could easily see two adults working it out in the same household, and I can even see compromises to make kids work. But, at the same time, it detracts from the analogy as a whole, which is why I don't think it's incredibly suitable.
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I didn't think the general notion that with a physical CD, a household would typically just buy one copy would be too controversial.

Although if little Johnny did want to listen to the CD at the same time as me, wouldn't we just put it on and both listen to it?

The original point was really just why should people living in different properties expect to share the cost of buying music, when up until now that is not how it has really worked?
 
natepdx92 said:
I am personally excited for this. I switched to Spotify a few years ago. One thing I liked about iTunes was the album view. Spotify doesn't have this. I feel like browsing my music library (saved songs) is easier on iTunes than on Spotify. With Apple Music I can add more music to my iTunes collection. I have a few playlists on Spotify that I can easily recreate in iTunes. Can't wait.
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One thing that I wish Spotify would do, but doesn't as far as I know, is have a view like you have in iTunes where you can click on an artist to see a list of albums by that artist. Then click on an album to see the tracks on the album.

As far as I can tell in Spotify, when you click on an artist it just shows you a list of all the songs, not split into albums. That's on the mobile app - Your Music > Artists.
 
johngordon said:
One thing that I wish Spotify would do, but doesn't as far as I know, is have a view like you have in iTunes where you can click on an artist to see a list of albums by that artist. Then click on an album to see the tracks on the album.

As far as I can tell in Spotify, when you click on an artist it just shows you a list of all the songs, not split into albums. That's on the mobile app - Your Music > Artists.
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I'm not sure how Spotify works on mobile (haven't used that much and it's restricted on my unlimited account anyway), also it's a long time since I had my own music files on my computer (all I need is in Spotify already).

BUT, When I first started using Spotify (quite few years back already) I still had some music files on my own.
After I "imported" those files to Spotify I could go to play them in My Music or whatever it's called and yes, it was just a list of songs. Nothing fancy.
BUT, At least back in those days Spotify worked in the way I think it should and kind of integrated my music with the Spotify Music library.
EXAMPLE:
At that time Spotify didn't have Metallica albums available. If you searched for Metallica, you didn't find anything.
But after I "imported" my own albums to Spotify those songs were available in My Music in a list of songs as said, but also, after that if I searched Metallica it would show those albums available like any other music in Spotify. There were album artworks and all nicely organized etc. Just like anything else. The only difference was a small icon next to the song that showed it was a local file.

I think this is how it should work (mixing the local files, cloud files and the streaming service files seamlessly) and it worked very nicely, but as said, I'm not sure it still works the same way.
 
More evidence of Apple Music, you can stumble upon this view if you go into your recently added and then try to play one of the selections it gives.
 

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Anyone with the beta - can you confirm you can still rate songs and Smart Playlists work?
 
I signed up for a 1 year Beats subscription on 10/6/2014. I am very interested to find out how all of this will affect me. Beats reps I have spoken to do not yet have any details.
 
beany boy said:
I signed up for a 1 year Beats subscription on 10/6/2014. I am very interested to find out how all of this will affect me. Beats reps I have spoken to do not yet have any details.
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What happens to my Beats Music service?
Once Apple Music launches on June 30, you can easily move your current Beats Music subscription over to Apple Music. Just open Beats Music on your iOS device and you’ll be prompted to join Apple Music. Once you’ve signed up, the playlists you’ve created or subscribed to and the albums you’ve saved in your Beats Music library will all be available to you in Apple Music.

http://www.apple.com/music/membership/
http://www.beatsmusic.com/faq
 
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