How do you switch so easily? Don't you have saved albums, playlists, offline songs, etc? I'm not into this "listen and throw away" game. I like to purchase my music through iTunes AND I like to listen to Spotify Premium. But switching to another provider like Apple Music? It isn't worth the hassle (for now).
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Signs of Apple Music Begin Showing Up in iOS 8.4 Beta Music App
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How do you switch so easily? Don't you have saved albums, playlists, offline songs, etc? I'm not into this "listen and throw away" game. I like to purchase my music through iTunes AND I like to listen to Spotify Premium. But switching to another provider like Apple Music? It isn't worth the hassle (for now).
That kind of misses the point though, which is that a household typically only needs one CD and anyone living there can listen to it.
The means of delivery / technology isn't really relevant. I think the equivalence is valid regardless of the technology, i.e. it is reasonable for people living in different properties to purchase separately, and makes sense for people living in the same household not to have to pay separately.
i am using 8.4 beta as a public beta tester in the uk and i haven't had the new apple music sign up pop up - is this only for americans to try in beta
Ah, of course. When I visited I remember being surprised the price on the price tag was not the price paid at checkout.
My biggest remaining question about Apple Music is will they let me edit the metadata of the music I've saved to "My Music"? Google does allow this, and it's fantastic.
For example, I listen to a lot of soundtrack music. I mark the Album Artist field as "Soundtrack" so they show up together. Will I be able to do this with music I've saved from the Apple Music library? Like I said, Google does allow it. Spotify does not.
For example, I listen to a lot of soundtrack music. I mark the Album Artist field as "Soundtrack" so they show up together. Will I be able to do this with music I've saved from the Apple Music library? Like I said, Google does allow it. Spotify does not.
iTunes Match renewals fail if there isn't a credit card associated with your iTunes account, even if you have enough gift card credit to cover the payment. When you add the credit card details it deducts the payment from your iTunes credit balance.
I have over 1500 songs already in iTunes. Plus my playlists will still exist in Spotify and it won't take me too long to transfer the ones I want to keep to Apple Music. I've wanted an Apple streaming service for a long time. I only had Spotify to hold me over.
iTunes Match renewals fail if there isn't a credit card associated with your iTunes account, even if you have enough gift card credit to cover the payment. When you add the credit card details it deducts the payment from your iTunes credit balance.
It would be nice to be able to do it without a credit card on file but it's no problem for me to have one associated with iTunes. What I wish iTunes credit could be used for is iCloud subscriptions. That would be a nice way to get a discount on there.
No , I'm a UK beta tester too and it popped up on my screen around midnight on Wednesday.
I'm using iTunes Match from the beginning and every year I pay the subscription with iTunes credits and also I pay my monthly iCloud Drive subscription with iTunes credits even with a iTunes associated credit card.
Yeah, that's a good question. As someone else noted, you CAN do that with Match today. This kinda goes along with my question about whether they'll keep star ratings for stuff in "My Music" even as they add the new heart-based liking mechanism.
The streaming quality for Apple Music is higher than Spotify. Spotify is only using MP3 at 320kbps. Apple Music is using AAC MP4 at 256kbps which is higher quality.
You don't need to do this. Soundtracks include both the Artist and Album Artist. Album Artist on Soundtracks is Always the name of the Soundtrack. Now by all means you can change the metadata of you still want. It just isn't necessary.
I'm beta testing too and located in Mexico. I don't seem to get the banner. We never had iTunes Radio. Could this mean we won't have Apple Music either? 100 countries seemed like a lot to me
Nevermind. I just saw a leaked document that states money given to music labels and it includes mexican pesos. Yay.
Nevermind. I just saw a leaked document that states money given to music labels and it includes mexican pesos. Yay.
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The issue I see is this, they still seem to splitting the music experience between "your tracks" and the iTunes Store. I don't want that.
One of the things that attracted me to the idea of Apple Music was having a seamless experience.
iTunes on the mac is a GODDAMN mess. It is a UX NIGHTMARE. I have been using it on both Windows and Mac since it was introduced and it has lost the elegance, simplicity, transparency and clarity of purpose that made it so usefeul. Toss it and start over. You are introducing a new service. Introduce a goddamn new paradigm. That is what makes Apple unique. Throughout its history they have not been afraid to turn something on its head to solve the problem and make the experience better.
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One of the things that attracted me to the idea of Apple Music was having a seamless experience.
- I don't really need to know if a song is in my library or part of my subscription unless I want to purchase it. That can be accomplished with a simple purchase button. Let me search for music and if it is available to me whether I "own" it or am "renting" it then allow me to play it, put it in a playlist, etc. To me that seems like a very Apple-like thing to do. If I have some tracks from an album and the rest are available to stream, present the whole album to me together. There are a myriad of ways to simply and visually indicate what is what without providing me multiple tabs to flip through. Hell you can even give me the option of adding to my existing playlist based on what is in them already.
- I also have 6700+ tracks on iTunes match, all of these tracks have meta-data on how often they've been played, when they were played, how many playlists they are on. Hundreds and possibly thousands of those have been purchased from iTunes. Don't ask me to plug in data and tell you what I like. I have been using iTunes for well-over a decade. You have a pretty decent starting point for what I listen to. I also use iTunes Match almost exclusively on my phone (very little of my music is stored locally.) so you know exactly what I have played on my mobile devices and my AppleTV. So you not only know what I listen to, you know where and when I am listening to it. Leverage that history and the relationship to make this experience "magical". Then give me the option to add artist or even take some out (I own a lot of children's music from when my kids were younger, please do not build me a station based on how many times I listened to Big Bird sing the ABCs in my car 5 years ago.) Hell you could almost do that automatically with the data you have. If you want to ask me about what NEW music I am into that works. Maybe quiz me on what I have been listening to on Rdio & Pandora. Hell Spotify, Rdio and Pandora have available APIs, use them to pull down my playlists, saved music, likes etc. Rdio synched my iTunes library to what was on their service the day I signed up.
iTunes on the mac is a GODDAMN mess. It is a UX NIGHTMARE. I have been using it on both Windows and Mac since it was introduced and it has lost the elegance, simplicity, transparency and clarity of purpose that made it so usefeul. Toss it and start over. You are introducing a new service. Introduce a goddamn new paradigm. That is what makes Apple unique. Throughout its history they have not been afraid to turn something on its head to solve the problem and make the experience better.
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Right, which means if I didn't change anything I would have a very messy list of "artists", many of which would be movie titles. By putting them all under the Album Artist "Soundtrack" it keeps everything very neat and organized for me.
(Also not *all* soundtracks are labeled with the soundtrack title as the album artist. Some are labeled as Various Artists, some as the composer, etc. of course this is personal preference but I just prefer to keep them all in one place, regardless of how iTunes has them listed.)
So you can guarantee that iTunes Radio will be coming to the UK with no ads and unlimited skips to current iTunes Match subscribers?