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eleveneastgate

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What's the deal?

I got this PM a while back:

Old 05-29-2005, 01:44 PM
edesignuk
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Please keep signatures down to no more than 6 lines as stated in the forum rules.

Thank you.
As you can see, I've followed the request.

Where are the Sig' Police now? I've seen NUMEROUS members not folllowing the "Rules".

When did MR become so partial?


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WinterMute

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eleveneastgate said:
Where are the Sig' Police now? I've seen NUMEROUS members not folllowing the "Rules".

When did MR become so partial?
The rules in this case were written some time ago by Arn and updated by Mudbug (I think) they are clear and consistent and you're not the only member to be asked to shrink a big signature down a little.

It's no big deal. If you see a sig that doesn't conform, please report it.

The simple reason behind this is to ensure that posts take up as little room as possible.
 
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emw

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I'm one of those members who was asked to scale back - it's really no big deal, and now that I've done it, I think my sig is much less intrusive. So people can now be more aware of how inane most of my posts really are.

Mods can't catch everything, so as others have pointed out, bring "scofflaws" like myself to their attention, besides the members you cite are really on 6 lines or less, depending on the size of your window.

And edesignuk was really rather polite about the whole thing, I'd say. Mine just got edited. ;)
 
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xsedrinam

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Two members whose avatars were such a classy delight to behold, (WinterMute and emw), what is it with the wigs? Seeing's emw's radar screen dissolve behind hair is indeed, hilarious, but...... :D
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WinterMute

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eleveneastgate said:
Where are the Sig' Police now? I've seen NUMEROUS members not folllowing the "Rules".

When did MR become so partial?
None of the members you quote have sigs in excess of the 6 lines or 150 characters (I haven't counted) quoted in the Forum rules.

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WinterMute

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xsedrinam said:
Two members whose avatars were such a classy delight to behold, (WinterMute and emw), what is it with the wigs? Seeing's emw's radar screen dissolve behind hair is indeed, hilarious, but...... :D
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It's a temporary KK aberation that will be fixed shortly... :D
 
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Mitthrawnuruodo

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WinterMute said:
None of the members you quote have sigs in excess of the 6 lines or 150 characters (I haven't counted) quoted in the Forum rules.
Well all of those I would guess have ~300 cars in them (including spaces), just like mine (the Douglas Adams quote alone is more than 250 chars long), but isn't that 150 chars limit more guiding than a set limit? I always understood the sigs rules as a way of controlling those very dominating sigs with endless lists and/or extreme use of size, color and/or bold (pun semi-intended) statements.

BTW, if mine is deemed way over the limit just say the word and I will take away either the "banner" or the quote (though I don't know which I would miss the most...) :)
 
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emw

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It's gonna cost you $25. :p
I'll tell him for only $20.

Oh, you meant he should contribute. Ah, I get it. :p

And here they thought contributing only got them the nice "Demi-God(dess)/Contributor" nickname. But wait, there's more. Act now and we'll throw in complete inanity and no additional cost!
 
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~Shard~

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eleveneastgate said:
What's the deal?

Where are the Sig' Police now? I've seen NUMEROUS members not folllowing the "Rules".

When did MR become so partial?
If you find someone whom you believe is not conforming to the rules, simply report them to the Mods and let them deal with it - that's their job. It is completely unnecessary to create a thread like this to publiclly complain about it and engage in finger-pointing - what does that gain anyone? What are you trying to accomplish with your post? Again, if you have issues, take it up with the Mods offline, there is no need to try and make a public spectacle of the thing. :cool:
 
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WinterMute

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Mitthrawnuruodo said:
Well all of those I would guess have ~300 cars in them (including spaces), just like mine (the Douglas Adams quote alone is more than 250 chars long), but isn't that 150 chars limit more guiding than a set limit? I always understood the sigs rules as a way of controlling those very dominating sigs with endless lists and/or extreme use of size, color and/or bold (pun semi-intended) statements.

BTW, if mine is deemed way over the limit just say the word and I will take away either the "banner" or the quote (though I don't know which I would miss the most...) :)
The sig rules are designed to stop excessive listing that would mean one short post could end up taking the same amount of screen space as a much longer post. The character limit in the cases of long single lines isn't so important (I would suggest) but could still be subject to editing if it was felt to be excessive.

Generally, these sort of benign issues aren't as important as a 10 short line sig that travels halfway down the screen, or a sig with an offensive content.

A sig won't get touched unless it's either reported or noticeably too big, yours is neither.
 
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Mitthrawnuruodo

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WinterMute said:
[...] A sig won't get touched unless it's either reported or noticeably too big, yours is neither.
Thanks for that clarification... it was more or less like I understood it... :)

I'll keep both parts of my sig, then... for now... ;)
 
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eleveneastgate

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~Shard~ said:
If you find someone whom you believe is not conforming to the rules, simply report them to the Mods and let them deal with it - that's their job. It is completely unnecessary to create a thread like this to publiclly complain about it and engage in finger-pointing - what does that gain anyone? What are you trying to accomplish with your post? Again, if you have issues, take it up with the Mods offline, there is no need to try and make a public spectacle of the thing. :cool:
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This is why I put it here, not anywhere else...

Regarding finger-pointing:

My sig was 6 lines at the max, yet I still got the notice...
 
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Applespider

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We did have a signature tidy-up not so long ago where lots of sigs were shrunk and colours toned down which made a big difference.

Perhaps yours scrolled a lot or appeared intrusive if it was indeed on the 6 line limit. It's hard to know otherwise; I think the thread was worth having to ask for clarification but I'm not so sure about the 'naming/shaming' members in public

It's reminded me that I spotted a 14 line signature yesterday which I was going to report but got called to a meeting and forgot...

EDIT - I've hunted and can't find it. All I can recall is it had a lot of specs in it and then lots of badmouthing about PPC and Intel roadmaps. If the mods can search the signature database, you'd likely spot the word 'roadmap' in it.
 
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iKwick7

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Mine was also changed/ asked to be changed a little while ago. I had no problem with doing so, it makes sense. And the mod who did it was quite nice about it. I don't see the point in complaining.
 
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michaelrjohnson

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I think the point of most of the posts here is that you haven't been singled out. It happened to many other users... the ones that the Mods noticed. There wasn't any effort to make an example of you or your sig, they're just trying to do their jobs.

I may have been surprised if my sig was modified without my knowledge... But, it's under the limit, and I may have been asked to change it... like edesignuk did with you.

Group hug?
 
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Doctor Q

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Every time a signature is made less distracting it's a benefit to every other member (at a slight inconvenience to one member), which is why we take the time to notify members when it is a problem. Almost every member we ask is perfectly cooperative about reducing oversize signatures. In most cases, they simply weren't aware of the size limits stated in the rules.

Perhaps the blame for oversize sigs should be put on Apple. Many members like to list their system specs in the signature, and our members keep getting more Apple equipment as Apple produces new, cheaper, and better products!
 
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mkrishnan

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Doctor Q said:
Every time a signature is made less distracting it's a benefit to every other member (at a slight inconvenience to one member), which is why we take the time to notify members when it is a problem. Almost every member we ask is perfectly cooperative about reducing oversize signatures. In most cases, they simply weren't aware of the size limits stated in the rules.
I think you do a good job of it, and I'm glad you do it. :)
 
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mad jew

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Doctor Q said:
Perhaps the blame for oversize sigs should be put on Apple. Many members like to list their system specs in the signature, and our members keep getting more Apple equipment as Apple produces new, cheaper, and better products!

I like your thinking. It's Apple's fault. Burn them!

:D
 
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andiwm2003

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well, what's the deal? if you don't do anything some mod is scaling your sig back for you. that's real customer service. :D

happened to me at some point and i actually don't mind it at all. they reformatted it and used a smaller font.

come on it's just a sig and the mods can't control them all at the same time.
 
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edesignuk

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eleveneastgate said:
This is why I put it here, not anywhere else...

Regarding finger-pointing:

My sig was 6 lines at the max, yet I still got the notice...
Your sig was this at the time when I edited it down, and did you the courtesy of a PM to explain why.
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Well over the 6 lines permitted. Also this was a few months ago, you've just decided to have a problem with it? :rolleyes:
 
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~Shard~

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eleveneastgate said:
This is why I put it here, not anywhere else...
Why put it anywhere in the first place? No one likes a complainer. Again, what purpose does it serve to publicly announce this?

eleveneastgate said:
Regarding finger-pointing:
Why finger-point at all?

eleveneastgate said:
My sig was 6 lines at the max, yet I still got the notice...
No it wasn't - please reference edesignuk's post. Many people have received notices, you are the only one to make a big deal out of it. :cool: Again, if you see people who are in violation of the rules, report them to the Mods and let them do their job, just as they have been doing all along.
 
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