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I went to LTE setting, clicked Voice & Data, wheel spun for about 5 mins, and bingo I got it. Can now use data and talk... Finally!!!:D:D:D
 
Derp. Derp, derp..... Derp.
That is all.

To the rest: anybody agree that AT&T had simultaneous voice and data over LTE five years before they even supported LTE, or is this guy wrong?

This person is correct it is multi session support which is built into the 3GPP standard which is what UTMS HSPDA and GSM are founded on. This is the bed rock of a non CDMA network the holy trinity so to speak of network layers. The issue with VZW is they have to dissimilar network layers the 3g CDMA and the 4G LTE and there new band of LTE which his the same spec as the first. Phones like the iPhone 4 4s 5 5s had 1 cell antenna this made it impossible for the phone to be on both networks at once and priority goes to the call network. There is a whole interrupt procedure the phone has waiting in the wings for CDMA calls it cuts the data and flips to full CMDA for the call. The flip prevents data as you esstialy leave the LTE network all together to take the call and come back to it once the call ends.

This is not the case with a full integrated 3GPP network like ATT or T-Mo as they are built on having dual sessions on the same stream so you can talk and surf etc.

In short
ATT has had talk and surf for almost a decade now with there first 3g roll out
VZW has been so far behind on this it is not even funny. For reason see abodes

side note it is all due to a design choice apple made two antenna for CDMA VZW and a whole different design or VZW suffers till they get it together
 
I think VOLTE is there future and i fear that there data network is going to suffer with this packet priority of voice over IP.

VoLTE is going to be a non-issue for bandwidth. It uses slightly less than 200 KB/minute, or about 11 MB/hour. Compared to just about anything else people are doing on network - looking at pictures, streaming video, browsing Facebook, etc, it's negligible.
 
ATT has had talk and surf for almost a decade now with there first 3g roll out
VZW has been so far behind on this it is not even funny. For reason see abodes

The thing about Verizon's crusty old CDMA network is that it has coverage everywhere, and is insanely reliable. If I can get a single bar of coverage, I can be pretty much positive my call will go through and not drop. AT&T is a total crapshoot in this regard. Having great coverage is a lot more important to me than the very occasional situations in which it's nice to be able to use data while on a call.
 
Poor Sprint users. Guess they're the only ones left out for now.

Other than talking while surfing, VoLTE doesn't pose any advantages to Sprint right now, HD-Voice over 1X CDMA sounds fantastic using their codec right now. Just like a Skype call over Wi-Fi.

But, VoLTE will be enabled with a software update eventually for Sprint on this device when the network supports it around mid-2015. I'm content with that, considering it won't bring me any added functionality. Don't think I've ever tried to talk and surf in 10 years of cellular use, but I know my habits aren't those of the general population.
 
Verizon SUCKS here in Florida and I consistently get faster connections on AT&T LTE than verizons fiber home service so FWIW, it may depend on your location.

And FYI, You may be watching too many Verizon propaganda spots. There are metrics that can support both Verizon and AT&T as better than the other. For the last few years the 4G coverage map was AT&T's win. LTE Speed was AT&Ts win and LTE coverage was verizons only commercial. ( worded very carefully but cleverly)

The voice/data issue has always been the biggest issue with Verizon. A BIG issue! So I agree it changes things for Verizons customers.

One last thing. AT&T has VoLTE in some markets already so not sure where you got your VERY incorrect information. Verizon and AT&T announced very close to the same time.

Propoganda? I don't think so. Verizon was stuck with slower 3G than AT&T, so they did a full court press directly to LTE, which today is paying off in spades. AT&T did half measures with HSPA+, which they (somewhat disingenuously) called 4G to make their map look better, and put off the LTE upgrade which put them behind the curve.

AT&T only has VoLTE in certain markets because they're far behind in LTE towers. In comparison, Verizon went live this week nationally.

Worst of all, last week AT&T's Ralph de la Vega told investors, "We don't have a burning desire or need for coverage." They should be building more towers, not planning on a WiFi Calling rollout. Sorry, but that's all I needed to jump ship for good. I've had AT&T since the 3GS was released, but my unlimited plan with "No Service" doesn't stack up against the coverage my friends get on Verizon.
 
Does this mean we'll also get the conference call and call waiting features gsm always had?
 
This is my first LTE phone (just upgraded my 4s). I ran speedtest while on hold with verizon a short while ago:

http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/i/967392776

Very impressed so far! Thank you verizon.
 
Never was a mistake.

CDMA allowed them to have a superb dropped call rate as well as excellent spectral density. Great capacity, especially when the 8k vocoders came along with good voice quality.

Did it match GSM/UMTS in all calling features? No, but apparently that wasn't a deciding factor for millions upon millions of subscribers.

They've done extremely well with CDMA, as have many other leading operators around the world.

In fact, CDMA was so impressive, it became the air interface for UMTS, which is something most people aren't aware of.

Since CDMA was optimized for voice, it's a totally open question as to how VoLTE will perform in comparison. LTE is break before make, while CDMA has soft and softer handoff.

I'm optimistic for VoLTE, especially if not moving quickly and undergoing rapid handoffs, but time will tell.

Saying CDMA was a mistake is uninformed.

I'm not arguing your claims, however having switched to Verizon after about a decade on AT&T, I've noticed a large degradation of voice quality. I remember my first Verizon iPhone call to an AT&T iPhone. The regular 'electronic' noise I heard led me to think I had something wrong with my new phone. I'm excited to hear that go away next year with 6S ;)
 
Great Features BUT...

I activated the features and all is fine except it makes any ringback tones, the music you can choose for people to listen as they wait to get connected with you, inactive. Boo. So, you have to compromise either cool voice quality & VOIP or ringback tones. Boo Verizon & Apple :(
 
I activated the features and all is fine except it makes any ringback tones, the music you can choose for people to listen as they wait to get connected with you, inactive. Boo. So, you have to compromise either cool voice quality & VOIP or ringback tones. Boo Verizon & Apple :(

I'm sure the people you were inflicting ringback tones on are happy.
 
VoLTE is going to be a non-issue for bandwidth. It uses slightly less than 200 KB/minute, or about 11 MB/hour. Compared to just about anything else people are doing on network - looking at pictures, streaming video, browsing Facebook, etc, it's negligible.

You are correct the real use of bandwidth is low but priority is very high so it could eat into reserve bandwidth. I know in my market we are heavy vzw so we are already suffering from low bandwidth available.
 
Shouldn't verizon be screaming this from the mountain tops? I had to discover myself while talking to a Verizon rep who had NO IDEA it existed. I know it's day one but really does any besides us pay any attention to this? It's a wonderful welcomed feature and also fixed the annoying call waiting issues with "multiple calls" actually letting you choose which line to go back to and see who's holding. Yes, att has had this since 2007 but you can actually makes calls and keep them connected on Verizon. I'm stoked
 
Does voice over LTE use the limited data allowance?

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Verizon began rolling out its Advanced Calling service earlier this week, enabling voice over LTE (VoLTE) capabilities for select devices that support the service, which includes the iPhone 6 and the iPhone 6 Plus.

Numerous iPhone 6 and 6 Plus users are reporting that the VoLTE service is now functional, allowing Verizon iPhone 6 and 6 Plus users to use simultaneous voice and data capabilities for the first time when connected to a 4G LTE network. MacRumors has confirmed that VoLTE is indeed working, enabling users to browse the web or access apps while on a voice call.

In addition to enabling simultaneous voice and data, Verizon's Advanced Calling features also allow for High-Definition voice calls, which are said to be more "natural-sounding" and Verizon-branded video calls.Users can enabled Advanced Calling features by visiting the Verizon website and adding the feature to their accounts. Users also need to make sure both Voice and Data are turned on in the iPhone's Settings app. Go to Settings --> Cellular --> Enable LTE --> Tap Voice & Data.

Verizon's Advanced Calling features are limited to the iPhone 6, the iPhone 6 Plus, the LG G2, and the Samsung Galaxy S5.

(Thanks, Will!)

Article Link: Simultaneous Voice/Data, HD Voice Now Available to Verizon iPhone 6 and 6 Plus Users
 
Wow 0.7 MB download - I guess that is not even 3G speed? My daughter's old iPhone 4S (which is not even LTE capable) on T-mobile can do simultaneous voice and data and she gets 5-8 MB downloads while on a call.

perhaps, this will shut you up? two verizon phones doing a speed test side by side:

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T-Mobile is just garbage. that's why even while being half the price they still only have about 1/3 of the subscribers that either Verizon or ATT have.

i've been with verizon for 10 years now, and in my extensive travels all over the US i have never been in a place without service. while driving up a mountain in Vermont or through endless corn fields in Virginia or pretty much anywhere else, where my family or colleagues would lose service on their carriers, i ALWAYS had voice and data.

T mobile doesn't even have reception in two of their largest stores here in brooklyn, ny.
 
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Is the iPhone 5s capable of HD Voice ?

Yes it is, but only GSM HD Voice, I believe. I remember taking my 5s to Australia and using a Telstra SIM. I was shocked at just how good the quality was between Telstra subscribers.

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I activated the features and all is fine except it makes any ringback tones, the music you can choose for people to listen as they wait to get connected with you, inactive. Boo. So, you have to compromise either cool voice quality & VOIP or ringback tones. Boo Verizon & Apple :(

I hate to break it to you, but those are incredibly annoying to anyone that isn't you.
 
HD audio. .... for playing music, yes

HD for voice = not very appealing, unless your wanting to talk to girls. ....

Yes it is, but only GSM HD Voice, I believe. I remember taking my 5s to Australia and using a Telstra SIM. I was shocked at just how good the quality was between Telstra subscribers.

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