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Come on ATT get the VoIP LTE working as this should also get the wifi calling working. One reason I got an iPhone 6.
 
i think he's referring to how AT&T (or GSM) have always been able to talk and surf on the iPhone at the same time.

That's been offered on other networks as well though. Just not when the data was coming over LTE

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That's nonsense. FaceTime can easily support voice + data over LTE on any device. This is definitely something that could be solved with proper software. The phone companies should not be treating voice any differently from any other data stream.

FaceTime is different, as it packages the voice data as normal data. Phone networks do not send voice the same way they send data. It's an entirely different spectrum. That is until now. Things like calling over Wi-Fi are starting to send voice as regular data, on the data frequencies.

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GSM had the ability since the 3G days to do simultaneous voice and data.

See previous comment.

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Casperes1996

I Had iPhone 4 with AT&T and it did both data and calls at same time so was highly disappointed when I bought my iphn 5 at verzion to learn they didn't offer both. Now I'm not sure what chip technical info was

Please. Call me Casper.
Now here's the thing. The 4 didn't use LTE... That's the difference. If you had bought an LTE device at AT&T, they wouldn't have been able to serve you data and voice at the same time either, as the LTE chip cannot receive data whilst it's receiving voice in those devices. The spectrums are different and would cause confusion to the receiver.

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Incorrect, any phone with an LTE chip can do VoLTE, though for older Android phones, it requires a software update that may never come. However other Android phones on Verizon did not have this issue because using voice and LTE at the same time is related to the number of antennas a device has. Unlike UMTS, since CDMA voice cannot be interleaved with data, it required an extra antenna to maintain both a voice connection and data connection to a tower, which sucks up power. Android phones had more antennas so simultaneous voice and data was never an issue.

More info: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6330/the-iphone-5-review/18

All of this is true, however, doing it without a supported LTE chip means that a lot more work has to be done by the CPU to properly process both streams. That's why most devices with older chips don't do VoLTE despite having a high enough antenna count. Technically, you are right though.

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The At&t iPhone has had simultaneous voice and data for 6 or 7 years. My data comes from owning and using the phone. Hands on!!

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You are correct, i got my year wrong but the point is the same :).

Let me be the first to welcome verizon to 2008! Lol

It's not about simultaneous voice and data. It's about simultaneous voice and data over LTE. There's a difference. See my previous comments for more details.

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The data comes from anywhere you want to look. How could you NOT know that AT&T has had simultaneous voice and data since the early iPhones??

I forgot years ago that anyone still DIDN'T have this feature.

Read my comments.

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Sorry it is true, I have been with ATT since the first 3Gs and I have been able to surf and do anything on my iPhone while on the phone talking to a friend. So sorry it is true!:)

Repeating myself a lot today.
Not about whether it supports simultaneous voice and data, or not, but whether it does it over LTE.
 
Why would anyone use this? It's not like data is unlimited.

When I spoke to Verizon rep they indicated VoLTE does count against your data and is only available when the person on the other end has VoLTE enabled/capable.

I can't confirm this (as I haven't tried it yet).
 
A few more points and I'm out...

To say that Verizon should have looked for alternatives for data is to gleefully glide past all of the inherent issues with making such a change. It's also revisionist.

First of all, there's real cost and effort for making a change outside of roadmap, and for most purposes, Verizon was following the Qualcomm roadmap and succeeding with it. It's not an easy thing at all to go in some other direction.

Will the handset manufacturers go along? Will the equipment manufacturers go along? How costly is it? Is it even feasible? I guess if you ignore all that change is easy.

At the time, there was no iPhone. I can tell you first hand data was considered a cool parlor trick by almost all operators. We were all waiting for the hockey stick, it never came until the iPhone arrived. So there was no vision that data needs were going to be something that needed to be handled.

I can also tell you first hand that Verizon thought the iPhone was a total joke for a very long time. This was a mistake on their part, for sure.

I spent many years in the industry, helping develop, deploy, optimize and manage systems across the globe with many operators. I lived these issues, I didn't read them in a blog post or in a magazine.

Verizon didn't suffer with CDMA.

* Adding: yes it's totally possible to have a crap, unoptimized, poorly performing network on any technology. Look at Sprint and Cricket - there's no comparison to Verizon. Also, within an operator, not all markets are equal, and some are designed better and managed better than others. Vendor choice also makes a huge difference.

I know they thought the iPhone was a total joke they laughed at apple.

I just know my market they got thrust a analog network that had a massive footprint and GSM at the time would have cost them more as it was not great at not being densely packed. The choice was clear no doubt CDMA all the way.

I agree going off roadmap can and does cost you billions on billions of dollars. I respect that but also they had to know at some point after iPhone 1 that they needed to start to plan a better network for faster speeds.

The talk surf deal was a side trick GSM did and apple turned it into gold for them with the whole email while you talk game.

I think verizon has more consistent network optimization in my market there are fewer tower over tower dead spots. I know a few good spots where your direct in the middle of 2 att towers and there network software can not decide which tower should service your phone and thus you get no service. So all coverage is not the same that is for sure. I just think ATT if they went along and really optimized each little region would have a better data and on accident voice network.
 
If HD voice doesn't work with landline phones, it's limited for a few years until more of the qualified smartphones are deployed. But this upgrade is more important than a bigger screen or better camera. To me, anyway. I use voice a lot and it sucks.
 
Derp. Derp, derp..... Derp.
That is all.

To the rest: anybody agree that AT&T had simultaneous voice and data over LTE five years before they even supported LTE, or is this guy wrong?

No, he's not wrong. AT&T has had simultaneous voice & data for at least 6 years. Where have you been?

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It's not about simultaneous voice and data. It's about simultaneous voice and data over LTE. There's a difference. See my previous comments for more details.

Yes, it is about simultaneous voice and data.

Read my comments.


I did.

Repeating myself a lot today.

Yes, you are.

Not about whether it supports simultaneous voice and data, or not, but whether it does it over LTE.

Again, you don't seem to be getting it. Read the thread title:
"Simultaneous Voice/Data, HD Voice Now Available to Verizon iPhone 6 and 6 Plus Users"

Yes, they're using LTE. But we don't care what the back-end tech is - the point is, AT&T users have had simultaneous voice and data for many years. Doesn't matter how they did it. End of story.
 
Has anyone been able to get the verizon video to work? I'm not seeing that or how to know the call is connected in HD
 
Not to rain on anyone's parade but it seems lots of people are forgetting the not-so-fine print that VZW mentions.

VoLTE with its simultaneous voice/data is only supported when making a VoLTE call to another phone with VoLTE capabilities.

Which I take to mean as < 10% of people I would call.

I.e.:
No land lines, no 800 #s, no offices/workplaces, and no one who is using a pre-iPhone 6 iPhone or any phone that doesn't support Verizon's VoLTE

Someone please tell me if I'm wrong because right now, I don't see this as changing the status quo at all, unless I'm talking to someone who also has a VoLTE capable phone who also has Verizon as a cell provider.

Haven't read replies past your post yet, but yes, you are wrong. It works for all phones you call. HD voice only works when speaking to another VZW customer that has volte enabled.
 
It's not about simultaneous voice and data. It's about simultaneous voice and data over LTE. There's a difference. See my previous comments for more details.

It was MY post and MY point was that it took Verizon 6+ years to provide a simple feature like simultaneous voice and data.
 
So I'm still not seeing the HD voice (or video option) come up when calling another Verizon iPhone6 - both with voLTE enabled (but the data part works fine). So I'm wondering it this is working in other parts of the country on the iPhone 6 yet?
 
Verizon has had this for a while on their SVDO phones like the Galaxy S3 Apple just didn't want to add another antenna :rolleyes:

That was why I specified iPhone by name. A lot of very blind AT&T haters who watch Verizon "Red Map" propaganda and simply repeat it. As I have repeated many times, AT&T's network did an awesome job partnering with Apple to make the iPhone truly successful!
 
No, he's not wrong. AT&T has had simultaneous voice & data for at least 6 years... the point is, AT&T users have had simultaneous voice and data for many years. Doesn't matter how they did it. End of story.

Exactly. People are fixated on LTE, it's not about how it's available but that it's [finally] available.

Switched to VZW in '12 when they began throttling unlimited accounts (barely used 2GB's a mo, yet was throttled every month from Oct '11 - Feb '12; during one call a CSR slipped when asked when this "testing" would end, she said - paraphrasing - "when customers switch to a tiered plan" - big whoops). I miss simultaneous voice+data, as a 5S owner I'm ticked they won't enable it (yes, it CAN be done on 5, 5S and 5C models).
 
I've had simultaneous voice and data on 4G LTE since my first Moto Droid RAZR and every Verizon Android phone since has had it. I am surprised so many people think this has never been possible before. It is only impossible on iPhones.
 
I've had simultaneous voice and data on 4G LTE since my first Moto Droid RAZR and every Verizon Android phone since has had it. I am surprised so many people think this has never been possible before. It is only impossible on iPhones.

People love to spit this out like it's relevant.

The Android phones on VZW that supported it (not all of them) had two radios. The i5 does not have two radios.

VoLTE does not require two radios.
 
People love to spit this out like it's relevant.

The Android phones on VZW that supported it (not all of them) had two radios. The i5 does not have two radios.

VoLTE does not require two radios.

How is it not relevant? Many have stated that it has never been possible and all I am saying is that it has been done for several years. Does it require two radios? Yes, but it has been done.
 
When i worked for verizon back in 2002 - 2004 they trained us that CDMA was the best and GSM was a terrible technology. LOL

At the time it was better. CDMA has wider range, uses less power and supports more concurrent users per tower. Did you ever hear people complaining that AT&T had lousy coverage compared to Verizon? That's why. Concurrent voice and data on a single phone was a non-issue in 2004.
 
This is false, the Verizon iPhone has always been able to have both voice and data when connected to a Wi-Fi network.

True. Funny thing, I never realized I couldn't do both data and voice for the longest time because every time I was on a call and needed to look something up i just happened to be home. I was very confused the first time I was unable to use the data network, lol.
 
Wow, how quickly ATT people get upset, this news is not about being able to be on the internet and talk at the same time. The only people that are not over that are those that are still on ATT. 95% of the time that I've ever needed to talk and be on the internet at the same time (this doesn't really happen that often to begin with) since I switched to Verizon I've been on wifi, so not having that capability has only affected me 5% of the few times I have ever needed to do that.

My dropped calls, however, went from 80%+, on ATT, to 5% (or less) on Verizon. Also when I attend major events where there are lots of people, my phone works now with Verizon where previously it did not with ATT. I was an ATT customer for 12 years, I used to work at a place that sold ATT phones. It was difficult for me to change, but the dropped calls just got out of hand. I sure hope they have fixed whatever was causing that. This occurred roughly 4 years ago.

Anyhow, the news here is about HD Voice, which is great! I can't wait to get my 6 and hear the difference!
 
Smartphones owners nowadays expect data and voice at the same time. ATT/T-mobile have been able to provide this to customers for a long time now.
Please don't speak for all Smartphone owners. Never used it when I was on AT&T and certainly don't care about it now on Verizon.
 
Is there any reason you wouldn't want to use this?

Only reason I can see is if you are in a VoLTE call and move out of the LTE coverage area the call will drop rather than handoff to the old 3G network. So if you live somewhere where you will often be making calls while moving that this happens a lot, then it would be an issue for you. But otherwise, I'm not seeing a reason not to turn it on.
 
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