Come on ATT get the VoIP LTE working as this should also get the wifi calling working. One reason I got an iPhone 6.
i think he's referring to how AT&T (or GSM) have always been able to talk and surf on the iPhone at the same time.
That's nonsense. FaceTime can easily support voice + data over LTE on any device. This is definitely something that could be solved with proper software. The phone companies should not be treating voice any differently from any other data stream.
GSM had the ability since the 3G days to do simultaneous voice and data.
Casperes1996
I Had iPhone 4 with AT&T and it did both data and calls at same time so was highly disappointed when I bought my iphn 5 at verzion to learn they didn't offer both. Now I'm not sure what chip technical info was
Incorrect, any phone with an LTE chip can do VoLTE, though for older Android phones, it requires a software update that may never come. However other Android phones on Verizon did not have this issue because using voice and LTE at the same time is related to the number of antennas a device has. Unlike UMTS, since CDMA voice cannot be interleaved with data, it required an extra antenna to maintain both a voice connection and data connection to a tower, which sucks up power. Android phones had more antennas so simultaneous voice and data was never an issue.
More info: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6330/the-iphone-5-review/18
The At&t iPhone has had simultaneous voice and data for 6 or 7 years. My data comes from owning and using the phone. Hands on!!
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You are correct, i got my year wrong but the point is the same.
Let me be the first to welcome verizon to 2008! Lol
The data comes from anywhere you want to look. How could you NOT know that AT&T has had simultaneous voice and data since the early iPhones??
I forgot years ago that anyone still DIDN'T have this feature.
Sorry it is true, I have been with ATT since the first 3Gs and I have been able to surf and do anything on my iPhone while on the phone talking to a friend. So sorry it is true!![]()
When I spoke to Verizon rep they indicated VoLTE does count against your data and is only available when the person on the other end has VoLTE enabled/capable.
I can't confirm this (as I haven't tried it yet).
A few more points and I'm out...
To say that Verizon should have looked for alternatives for data is to gleefully glide past all of the inherent issues with making such a change. It's also revisionist.
First of all, there's real cost and effort for making a change outside of roadmap, and for most purposes, Verizon was following the Qualcomm roadmap and succeeding with it. It's not an easy thing at all to go in some other direction.
Will the handset manufacturers go along? Will the equipment manufacturers go along? How costly is it? Is it even feasible? I guess if you ignore all that change is easy.
At the time, there was no iPhone. I can tell you first hand data was considered a cool parlor trick by almost all operators. We were all waiting for the hockey stick, it never came until the iPhone arrived. So there was no vision that data needs were going to be something that needed to be handled.
I can also tell you first hand that Verizon thought the iPhone was a total joke for a very long time. This was a mistake on their part, for sure.
I spent many years in the industry, helping develop, deploy, optimize and manage systems across the globe with many operators. I lived these issues, I didn't read them in a blog post or in a magazine.
Verizon didn't suffer with CDMA.
* Adding: yes it's totally possible to have a crap, unoptimized, poorly performing network on any technology. Look at Sprint and Cricket - there's no comparison to Verizon. Also, within an operator, not all markets are equal, and some are designed better and managed better than others. Vendor choice also makes a huge difference.
Derp. Derp, derp..... Derp.
That is all.
To the rest: anybody agree that AT&T had simultaneous voice and data over LTE five years before they even supported LTE, or is this guy wrong?
It's not about simultaneous voice and data. It's about simultaneous voice and data over LTE. There's a difference. See my previous comments for more details.
Read my comments.
Repeating myself a lot today.
Not about whether it supports simultaneous voice and data, or not, but whether it does it over LTE.
Not to rain on anyone's parade but it seems lots of people are forgetting the not-so-fine print that VZW mentions.
VoLTE with its simultaneous voice/data is only supported when making a VoLTE call to another phone with VoLTE capabilities.
Which I take to mean as < 10% of people I would call.
I.e.:
No land lines, no 800 #s, no offices/workplaces, and no one who is using a pre-iPhone 6 iPhone or any phone that doesn't support Verizon's VoLTE
Someone please tell me if I'm wrong because right now, I don't see this as changing the status quo at all, unless I'm talking to someone who also has a VoLTE capable phone who also has Verizon as a cell provider.
It's not about simultaneous voice and data. It's about simultaneous voice and data over LTE. There's a difference. See my previous comments for more details.
AT&T has had this since the second iPhone. Let me be the first to welcome Verizon to 2008.
Verizon has had this for a while on their SVDO phones like the Galaxy S3 Apple just didn't want to add another antenna![]()
No, he's not wrong. AT&T has had simultaneous voice & data for at least 6 years... the point is, AT&T users have had simultaneous voice and data for many years. Doesn't matter how they did it. End of story.
I've had simultaneous voice and data on 4G LTE since my first Moto Droid RAZR and every Verizon Android phone since has had it. I am surprised so many people think this has never been possible before. It is only impossible on iPhones.
People love to spit this out like it's relevant.
The Android phones on VZW that supported it (not all of them) had two radios. The i5 does not have two radios.
VoLTE does not require two radios.
When i worked for verizon back in 2002 - 2004 they trained us that CDMA was the best and GSM was a terrible technology. LOL
This is false, the Verizon iPhone has always been able to have both voice and data when connected to a Wi-Fi network.
Does using VoLTE go against our data usage?
Please don't speak for all Smartphone owners. Never used it when I was on AT&T and certainly don't care about it now on Verizon.Smartphones owners nowadays expect data and voice at the same time. ATT/T-mobile have been able to provide this to customers for a long time now.
Is there any reason you wouldn't want to use this?