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How can the iPhone X top the Pixel 2 score? Isn't the only difference, on the cameras, between the iPhone 8 Plus and X the OIS on the telephoto lens?
No. The pixel has has what they refer to as double pixel Density. For every micron the iPhone has, the pixel has roughly two. It allows for more detail to be captured , apparently. The verge did a preview which claimed this.

Other than that, I am happy the pixel received a high score. This means Apple is forced to innovate.
 
In all the photos your average person is likely to take, the iPhone looks considerably better.

Better colour, contrast, exposure and detail.

Look at the carousel shot, most non-technical people would pick the middle one as the best.
If you follow the link, the photos of the girl on the bridge, sitting in the restaurant, by the coloured lights and on the bench are all perceptually better on the iPhone.
 
That's interesting as that's the same aperture as on the Lumia 950XL. That had 21MP though and a 1.2.4" sensor. The issue with that camera at the time was the software was rubbish. It's come along a lot now and is a great camera. I wonder how it would compare to an iPhone X.

I have no idea, it's interesting why Apple have added a f/2.4 aperture to the Telephoto on the iPhone X but on the 8 Plus it is f/2.8 what this will actually mean when it comes to all these scores i have no idea. I tend to go on actual usage, for example the Bokeh effect on the 8 Plus is better than on the iPhone 7 Plus, again i don't know how/why.

The display is also an interesting one, the iPhone X has a 1,000,000:1 contrast ratio but the iPhone 8 Plus has 1300:1 contrast ratio. The iPhone X is also the only iPhone to have an HDR display.
 
The real comparison is the smaller form factor Pixel 2 versus the iPhone 8. Both Pixel versions have the “same” camera. If I am comparing those two devices the Pixel 2 is a better achievement as you get many features of an iPhone 8 plus without having to pay as much.

The other advantage is getting the depth effect on the front facing camera, which at this point will only be available on the iPhone X. There are a lot of advantages the Pixel 2 has over the iPhone 8 and 8 plus, but the iPhone X is clearly the top of the line or will be come November. However for $999 to $1,149 I would hope that it is.

I am at this moment sticking with my 7 Plus as there is nothing compelling me to want another large form factor Phone and the iPhone X is just out of this guy’s budget.
 
Good on Google for producing another brilliant smartphone camera.

There’s only one thing that bothers me with the testing they did, not for the Google devices, that’s all fair and square. Last years Pixel had a really good camera too, it’s nice to see it improved on.

But for the iPhone 8/+ they used the HEIF format to take the images they used to calculate their scores. Despite that it’s already been pointed out before that the HEIF format produces images with less detail than JPEG.

They did take some images in JPEG to use in the article, but did not use them in the scoring process.

I don’t much care who gets the top spot from them, it doesn’t affect my purchasing decisions and these days the big players all produce good cameras. So it’s much of a muchness.

However I would have liked to see what they thought of the iPhone cameras, using JPEG, purely to put them all on a more level playing field. Just for curiosity’s sake.
 
Both iPhone8 Plus, Note 8 and Pixel 2 are top cameras and take top quality photos. It'll be more important if the person who is taking the photo knows what he/she's doing or not.
Choose one (Android or iOS, or both if you can) and be happy. You won't notice the difference with a naked eye in day to day taking photos and looking at your smartphone screen. Only when you put it in your mac/pc or your tv, on a bigger screen, only then you can see a little bit of difference.
 
Without looking at which phone took the sample pictures in the article, in almost every instance I liked the iphones picture better.
 
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The camera’s fine but in real life these top phone cameras are roughly the same. The point of the Google phone is the AI. That’s where it sets itself apart. In a vacuum Siri is inept. Compared to where Google is in mobile AI, Siri’s downright pathetic. Apple’s working hard on this and hiring good people, and they’d better; they’re way behind in this area.
Actually the cameras produce vastly different images and videos (at least the galaxy note 8 vs the iPhone 8 Plus). Way over saturated on the Note 8, and jutter in the video, but 15 million times better autofocus, and also better low light pictures but worse low light video.

Really the embarrassing thing is that Apple doesn’t lead with the camera every single year. They have by far the most money and potential resources, and they can’t produce the best camera in a smartphone, it’s almost as sad as their notch and Control Center software engineering.
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And a little bit better of an aperture at f/2.4
Only for the telephoto sensor.....that does virtually nothing because 99% of pictures are taken with the other image sensor which is by all knowledge, absolutely identical. The Google Pixel 2 wins and it should win because Apple is too stupid to get the best every single year.
 
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Wasn't the original Pixel given a very high rating prior to launch and then it turned out to have a significant problem with lens flare for common types of lighting?
 
Good on Google for producing another brilliant smartphone camera.

There’s only one thing that bothers me with the testing they did, not for the Google devices, that’s all fair and square. Last years Pixel had a really good camera too, it’s nice to see it improved on.

But for the iPhone 8/+ they used the HEIF format to take the images they used to calculate their scores. Despite that it’s already been pointed out before that the HEIF format produces images with less detail than JPEG.

They did take some images in JPEG to use in the article, but did not use them in the scoring process.

I don’t much care who gets the top spot from them, it doesn’t affect my purchasing decisions and these days the big players all produce good cameras. So it’s much of a muchness.

However I would have liked to see what they thought of the iPhone cameras, using JPEG, purely to put them all on a more level playing field. Just for curiosity’s sake.
Nope, HEIF would be the fair scoring because 99.9% of pictures and video taken with these iPhones will be using that, because it defaults to that and it’s a far better experience for the user.
 
No. The pixel has has what they refer to as double pixel Density. For every micron the iPhone has, the pixel has roughly two. It allows for more detail to be captured , apparently. The verge did a preview which claimed this.

Other than that, I am happy the pixel received a high score. This means Apple is forced to innovate.
The Verge got an exclusive, which was basically a paid ad for Google.
 
Only for the telephoto sensor.....that does virtually nothing because 99% of pictures are taken with the other image sensor which is by all knowledge, absolutely identical. The Google Pixel 2 wins and it should win because Apple is too stupid to get the best every single year.

It isn’t the best yet as the iPhone X isn’t even out yet so let’s wait and see, as for Apple being stupid you are so wrong, the camera team at Apple do some great work, the bokeh effect on the 7 Plus is a great feature that I use a lot. Let’s just see when all these phones are out before we start saying anyone is the best :rolleyes:
 
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The iPhone X wont beat it. It only adds a stabilisation module extra.
which adds brightness which adds more detail on that second camera. I would imagine having that used in portrait would enhance pictures also if both stabilized cameras are used in different picture modes other than video. Its not a small feature.
 
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Competition is good! We are getting better phones because of it. I think Apple is right and Android was intellectual property theft, but in the end, Apple became the most valuable company in the world, and the iPhone got better much faster than it otherwise would have due to the intense competition. We all won because of Android.
 
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