This explain your statement : you don't think enough.
Simply not true.
You do realize that a feature like that could dramatically increase image quality/clarity, especially in low light or zoom situations, as much as two stops?
But that's only for the narrow-angle lens, right? How many times do you use that one? It's one feature I just don't need on my phone.
You’ll use image stabilization in every photo you take. It’s not something you turn on or off. It’s part of the mechanics. And having it on both modules is awesome.
I don't mean OIS, I mean the narrow-angle lens. I don't really care about that.
It just has two angles, the normal and the narrow(er) one, which isn't narrow enough to qualify as "telephoto", as many incorrectly label it. And it doesn't qualify as "zoom" either, you'd need to be able to continually adjust the focal distance of the lens, and it can't do that.
Sorry, but I agree with the original poster as well. Your casual sense of righteousness is in stark contrast with the lack of validity in your conclusion. And your “RAW analogy” is wayyyy off. It’s not about finding some purist format like RAW that is only used by photo hobbyists who love coloring all their images in post. It’s about comparing apples to apples, so to speak. Just as you wouldn’t compare one camera’s photos taken in JPEG with another camera’s taken in RAW (even if those were the defaults for the respective cameras) they shouldn’t compare JPEG images in one camera with HEIF images in another. They should compare like with like, JPEG with JPEG.
Are you saying your phone doesn’t have two lenses? How could you know you’d never use it until you had it around and tried it in your daily workflow?
That could be. I wish things like this had the photos without revealing which phone took them. Let readers pick which ones they think are best. Then you could click a link or something that would reveal which phones took which photos. That way readers could see which one they REALLY think is best and not be swayed by the personal biases that we all have.
Yep that particular example is quite hideous. I would guess it may get better over time with software updates. Not sure it can ever be as accurate or produce results as good as a dual camera setup
Nope. You compare things that ARE USED, not things that are NOT USED. There is virtually NO purpose in THAT data. It tells a customer what?? What does it tell a customer? It tells them that their phone will shoot better images compared to Y phone IF they switch to JPEG which 99% of people will not do. In other words, that data is useless data to them. And not only useless, but actually, potentially deceitful due to the fact that most people wouldn’t even know that there was the distinction that it is only if they specifically go into settings and set their device to the non-default, higher storage-taking format, which the vast majority of people have no idea what a format is even in the most basic sense of the term.
My phone has two lenses, same angle, one color and the other monochrome. That's how it does what you call "portrait mode", on my phone is actually a much more flexible "wide aperture" mode which lets you adjust the aperture (thus the amount of bokeh) and the focus point, even after you take the shot.
20 to 12MP is 1.3x zoom. Much less than the 2x telephoto module on the iPhone. And color definition is still 6MP green, 3MP blue and red, so in practice you have less color information than a 20MP color filtered sensor, and so less than 1.3x headroom. So I am more intersted in the Apple implementation.
I think zoom, even in small amounts, is much more useful (for framing) than a fixed lens that's not optically very good nor very bright. It's not even stabilized as far as I know (only the X?). I also think that wide-angle is much better. The V30 did that one right, if it had anything but a sub-mediocre front camera, it would have tempted me.
56mm full frame equivalent, as far as I know. It's just a fixed lens with a narrow angle. Calling it "telephoto" is seriously stretching the term. Sorry, not buying into Apple's marketing bs.
