Siri and iCloud Banned at IBM Headquarters over Security Risks

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001


    Wired points to a recent Technology Review interview with IBM chief information officer Jeanette Horan highlighting the issues of the "bring your own device" trend in which employees choose their own mobile devices to bring to the workplace and use for company business. But even when employees wish to use their own devices, IBM locks down a number of features for security reasons, cutting off access to Siri, iCloud, and Dropbox among other services.

    Horan calls IBM's security outlook "extremely conservative", noting that the company is concerned about Siri queries being stored on Apple's servers. As Wired notes, Apple does indeed store such information in order to perform transcription and offer results, as well as keeping it for some time in order to help improve overall performance.
    Apple is far from the only company to store users' personal information on its servers, but its popularity unsurprisingly places the company in the spotlight and is a particular focus for those such as corporate security personnel seeking to maintain privacy and control over such data.

    Article Link: Siri and iCloud Banned at IBM Headquarters over Security Risks
  2. nefan65, May 23, 2012
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    nefan65 macrumors 65816


    Apr 15, 2009
    I think this should be the least concern of IBM...
  3. teknishn macrumors 6502

    Nov 16, 2006
    Sooo, don't use the corporate wifi on your phone. I wouldnt want my bosses knowing what Im doing on the intraweb anyway.
  4. 0815 macrumors 68000


    Jul 9, 2010
    here and there but not over there
    Well, I guess IBM is a too big of a company to move along with new technologies. Policies are outdated and it takes years to update them - once they are updated, they are already out dated since technology moved on. It is amazing how big cooperations can stand in their own way and not adjust ... glad I work for a small technology startup that goes with the time.
  5. applesith macrumors 68030


    Jun 11, 2007
    IBM doesn't want proprietary information dictated to Siri because it will be stored on Apple's server. Not surprising.
  6. chachawpi macrumors member

    Feb 7, 2009
    I'm sure they are locking it down at the device level with policies, not on their "corporate Wi-Fi" heh.
  7. ristlin Guest

    Mar 29, 2012
    This is an underhanded move by IBM. Reminds me of a situation in Atlas Shrugged when a large "unbiased" organization comes out and says they aren't sure if a new steel is safe to use in a public project like building a railroad, which of course makes everyone afraid to ride on said rails out of fear of the unknown. Same applies here, IBM is playing the "we can't be sure of its security" card to pretty much make people question the iCloud service.
  8. Consultant macrumors G5


    Jun 27, 2007
    So they should ban all search engines and all Google products then?
  9. mlmwalt macrumors 6502a

    Jun 8, 2010
    Philadelphia, Pa, USA
    Exactly. I'm surprised you don't hear about it more. Even though data protection is a common sense thing, I wouldn't put my company's stuff into my iCloud account. And I certainly wouldn't put anthing of critical value on my iPhone, even password protected.
  10. milo macrumors 604

    Sep 23, 2003
    How do they "cut off" access to Siri? Doesn't it require 3G as opposed to wifi? Or is this just a policy they have in place but with no way of enforcing it?

    In general it seems like companies can't really stop people from doing much of anything on their phones, at least not unless they're totally blocking cel phone signals or not letting people bring phones in the building.

    In some cases companies require disabling search suggestions since they feel it sends too much info to google.
  11. NAG macrumors 68030


    Aug 6, 2003
    Bit funny that IBM, one of the champions of the thin client/terminal computing is blocking cloud computing. Completely understandable that they don't want product data off their campus, though.
  12. MonkeySee.... macrumors 68040


    Sep 24, 2010
    it's a trap!!
  13. thewitt macrumors 68020


    Sep 13, 2011
    Siri can be disabled through an a enterprise policy.
  14. Rocketman macrumors 603


    In principal Apple could put a bot on one server to aggregate stuff from certain IPs or users as a means to do industrial espionage against/on IBM. But while technically possible and maybe even easy it would run afoul of laws agnostic to what technology is used.

    As we all know Apple uses the access to info to improve Siri and its associated services on an aggregate not individual person basis.

    I don't see how permanent paranoia and possibility of paragraph 1 will ever go away, and I don't see how one can make and improve services like Siri without paragraph 2.

    I would actually be more concerned about government agencies using their back door access to do paragraph 1. That is not merely a possibility but a baseline expectation.

  15. Amazing Iceman macrumors 68040

    Amazing Iceman

    Nov 8, 2008
    Florida, U.S.A.
    Well, they have their own Cloud offering, so why use the competitions when they should be using their own?
    The Post title is misleading into making believe there is a security risk in SIRI and iCloud, when in reality it is a security concern for IBM only, as they are afraid their 'secrets' may be discovered by Apple.
  16. Jibbajabba macrumors 65816

    Aug 13, 2011
    Exactly, as obviously only Apple would have access to the data in question.
  17. rmwebs macrumors 68040

    Apr 6, 2007
    Its a completely understandable concern. Apple are in effect second to Google now when it comes to your personal information. It wont be long before this silly fad of 'Google is evil because they personalize adverts based on what I search for' turns into 'Apple is evil because they customize my TV adverts based on where my iPhone has been'.

    The fact is, information is a valuable asset. Apple WILL collect as much information as they can as it increases ad revenue, which Apple WILL rely on with the rumored upcoming TV.

    As for the cloud stuff, I'd personally not be too worried about that. iCloud is pants compared to anything Amazon, Google or IBM have done in the cloud.
  18. FrizzleFryBen macrumors 6502

    Dec 14, 2009
    Charlotte, NC
    "Siri, remind me to tell Ginni that I have finally cracked the user interface of a TV" ;)
  19. NAG macrumors 68030


    Aug 6, 2003
    Yeah, I mean Apple lets you disable Siri for this very reason. Just funny that it even needs to be stated. You'd think IBM employees would be using an IBM service.
  20. pubwvj macrumors 68000


    Oct 1, 2004
    Mountains of Vermont
    I banned iCloud here at our business too. Too non-secure and risky.
  21. KnightWRX macrumors Pentium


    Jan 28, 2009
    Quebec, Canada
    This isn't about search. Everything you tell Siri, including Reminders, E-mail, Text messages, etc.. is sent to Apple.


    Hum... IBM is a bit ahead of Apple in the game of natural language processing :
  22. Joe-Diver macrumors 6502


    Aug 2, 2009
    Personally I don't care because 90% of the "personal information" I've provided is false anyway.
  23. Stella, May 23, 2012
    Last edited: May 23, 2012

    Stella macrumors G3


    Apr 21, 2003
  24. Joe-Diver macrumors 6502


    Aug 2, 2009
    Yeah, I agree...most companies do this now. My work laptop is so locked down I can't use the USB ports or the DVD drive.
  25. rmwebs macrumors 68040

    Apr 6, 2007
    OH dont get me wrong I do agree. In fact I couldnt give a monkeys what Google, IBM or Apple know about me as I know its only being used to make them more money through advertising, with zero effect on me. It's not like your personal info is being sold to the Mafia as some Google haters would have you believe! :p

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