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Considering how Siri is the backbone of the Apple TV and a key way of interacting with your Apple Watch, I don't believe Apple will leave it to rot. But I do wonder if there are problems such as office politics which are preventing Siri from improving as quickly as it should?

No doubt Siri has improved since its debut in 2011, but it's still quite slow and inaccurate for me.
Siri required a complete backend revamp when Samsung purchased the company that makes Dragon Dictate (who originally handled Siri's backend). At that time Apple set up an office right across the street from MIT focused exclusively on Siri. These kinds of things take a few years of production before going live, and we have not yet seen the end results of this team's work (much like the Map team that has been hunkered down away from publicity for the last three years).

http://appleinsider.com/articles/13...cognition-tech-team-in-boston-to-improve-siri

http://www.betaboston.com/news/2014...focused-on-improving-siri-speech-recognition/

It's iOS 10 this year, and several iOS core teams have been working on projects that haven't been released yet. It's going to be a BIG WWDC this year. ;)
 
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He's screen recording. You noticed QT was the active app, but missed the active window is showing screen recording.
QT is a great and simple way for recording the screen or a selected window.



Well, Apple didn't do much with them. They basically promised to adopt and love their child with full visitation rights and then.... well, didn't give much in the way of visitation rights.

Or more simply, they screwed them. The Apple of now thinks innovation in Siri is adding "hey siri" years after OK Google.



Hmm. Many companies have long addressed this.... Apple is just not one of them.

I have an LG-V10 which has 4 mics and filters for background noise. I can easily use Google now while in the shower without the shower noise causing any issues most of the time when asking Google to change a song or something.

My Samsung tablet is also top notch at this, and it's a few years old. If I said OK google right now I'd have 2 devices ready and waiting for what I was going to say, but the LG's accuracy is better.

Most high end Androids have good mics and noise filtering.... low to mid range are on par with the iPhone.

This is where Apple's fixation with making everything thin kills some hardware advancements.
Few people want or need thinner.... and thinner kills space for more than 1 mic, better speakers, etc.

It's disappointing because the iPhone does have a great camera and video recording but awful sound on video.

iPhones have had multiple mics since Siri was built into the 4s, I think it had two and newer phones use 3. I've never had an issue with audio during a video recording and noise cancellation works great.
 
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Doesn't Hound already do this?

And wow that presentation was so boring!
 
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In a Guardian article the CEO of the company say that Apple have done nothing with Siri and they effectively have sidelined it hence why they have continued without Apple. It's another Apple failure.. Buy the tech and then leave it to rot! How many times have we seen Apple buy a bit of software only to let it wither on the vine afterwards. Siri is like Mac products, it's out of date!

That's a real shame, because personal assistants are almost there. They need to be able to have more complicated input, like this, and they also need to be able to use the results of the previous request as the input to a new one, which will allow a more natural "conversation" style interaction. Siri fails miserably at anything complex, Google's voice assistant on Android is much better but still not quite where the tech needs to be for it to take off in a large way. At least this shows that people are actively developing and working on the improvements needed.
 
That's a real shame, because personal assistants are almost there. They need to be able to have more complicated input, like this, and they also need to be able to use the results of the previous request as the input to a new one, which will allow a more natural "conversation" style interaction. Siri fails miserably at anything complex, Google's voice assistant on Android is much better but still not quite where the tech needs to be for it to take off in a large way. At least this shows that people are actively developing and working on the improvements needed.

I'll refer you to post #52.

Apple has been working on Siri for 3 years, none of which has been released yet.
 
Yeah, that annoys me as well. Hard to call it a conversation when only one person is speaking.[/QUOTE]

Millions of married men experience this possibly every day, just gotta get over it!
 
I'll refer you to post #52.

Apple has been working on Siri for 3 years, none of which has been released yet.

There's nothing in those articles to indicate that the work of that team is not the updates that Siri has been receiving in the last three years. Until they come out and say otherwise, it's just speculating, whereas other teams are demonstrating real progress.
 
There's nothing in those articles to indicate that the work of that team is not the updates that Siri has been receiving in the last three years. Until they come out and say otherwise, it's just speculating, whereas other teams are demonstrating real progress.

Apple has teams all over the country working on projects that don't get explicitly announced. Maps and it's AR functionality being one of them. Just because you don't understand how the company goes about working on projects doesn't mean it's not happening.

Let's come back to this after WWDC and see how the cards fell.
 
Apple has teams all over the country working on projects that don't get explicitly announced. Maps and it's AR functionality being one of them. Just because you don't understand how the company goes about working on projects doesn't mean it's not happening.

Let's come back to this after WWDC and see how the cards fell.

Who has been working on Siri on the improvements that have been released over the last three years? Do you have anything to indicate it's yet another set of teams other than the one specified in the articles?
 
Who has been working on Siri on the improvements that have been released over the last three years? Do you have anything to indicate it's yet another set of teams other than the one specified in the articles?
This team has been working on the normal siri maintenance and backend:

https://mesosphere.com/blog/2015/04/23/apple-details-j-a-r-v-i-s-the-mesos-framework-that-runs-siri/

Note that this is a rebuild of the backend to modernize it....and lay the framework for future features.
 
Pretty much how I am forced to get SIRI to work on my iPad — by putting my mouth right up against the mic.

While a great improvement over SIRI in terms of more complex requests, the real breakthrough with voice commands must come on the hardware side. The hardware needs to be more on level with human beings. Even in a somewhat noisy room, if I speak loud enough, a real person could understand me. SIRI (and apparently VIV) have their hands tied on that front due to lack of advances in voice detection by the mic and noise filtering.
You're talking about a mic that needs to handle a lot of different conditions. The of hardware and behavior ideal for ambient pickup is NOT ideal for voice calls, facetime, recording audio, etc. etc.
 
In a Guardian article the CEO of the company say that Apple have done nothing with Siri and they effectively have sidelined it hence why they have continued without Apple. It's another Apple failure.. Buy the tech and then leave it to rot! How many times have we seen Apple buy a bit of software only to let it wither on the vine afterwards. Siri is like Mac products, it's out of date!

Oh yay...another CEO who doesn't work at Apple, analyzing what's going on at Apple. And yet another post declaring an Apple failure based on some CEO's opinion.

Hard to argue that Siri hasn't improved over time. Maybe not at the pace you want, but it's improving. And as someone stated, it's a key part of iOS, tvOS, and Homekit...doubt that it isn't one of their priorities.
 
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So Siri is just a temp voice ?

"We'll just get this crappy one in there, while we are working on better one Viv" ?


One side benefit, we'll have all this Siri vs Viv,, and "which voice assistant do u want" would determine the phone u use...

It's difficult to work so hard on something just to sell it.
 
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Are you sure Quicktime is capable of that? Because I'm pretty sure it isn't (but would love to be corrected).

It very much is, and is incredibly convenient for this and other purposes. Need your iOS device's screen on your desktop? Fire up QuickTime.
 
In a Guardian article the CEO of the company say that Apple have done nothing with Siri and they effectively have sidelined it hence why they have continued without Apple. It's another Apple failure.. Buy the tech and then leave it to rot! How many times have we seen Apple buy a bit of software only to let it wither on the vine afterwards. Siri is like Mac products, it's out of date!

What we don't (and will never) know is what state the Siri software was in and whether it was ready for major enhancements, especially in scale. I've seen this before - small company with smallish user base has a great product. it gets bought by large company with very large user base and the software won't scale. So, open up the lid and find a huge can of worms with undocumented code and only about three developers who understand how it works. It takes a long time get it up to spec and standards - meanwhile you just have to do what you can.
 
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Self-modifying code? Hmm -- I wonder how the app decides what to save and archive for future use (the good), and what decisions are a total mistake (the bad)? Does it have two memory partitions where one is periodically wiped?

Does anyone remember what happened a few weeks ago with Microsoft's self-learning AI chat-bot? The thing turned psycho within hours after interacting with typical humans. Perhaps this is why Viv's voice is turned off?
 
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