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Siri Creators Offer First Demo of 'Viv', the Self-Coding Voice Assistant
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I certainly Hope Siri has some major improvements for iOS 10. I think she is in trouble, it won't take long before Viv dethrones Siri. Siri has its benefits, but Viv is clearly more sophisticated and in depth.
[doublepost=1462908796][/doublepost]And Viv is exactly where Siri should have been by at this junction, and it's not. Shame.
[doublepost=1462908796][/doublepost]And Viv is exactly where Siri should have been by at this junction, and it's not. Shame.
Viv is not that big a Deal. People are more careful in choosing hotels and flowers than the demo implied.
Apple does not need Viv.
Novauris Technologies, which Apple bought in 2013, already gave SIRI the core of what Viv offers.
Vocal IQ which Apple purchased last year will put SIRI over the top by allowing SIRI to intelligently query the user about context of requests and learning about the user overtime.
Allowing any developer to integrate their service into Viv is a bad idea. The best services should be selected to improve quality and reliability. I don't think Apple will be interested in Viv but Viv may find a buyer if FaceBook or Google since they already made offers.
Took the words right out of my mouth. I know dropping the ball on Siri was one of the reasons that Forstall was fired, but it has been out of his hands for a long time and the responsibility of Eddie "Clueless." Mr. Clueless should be fired as well.
The video made me cringe... The front mic is located in the receiver mesh at the top of the phone...
I always laugh when i see people on speaker phone holding the bottom of the phone to their face...
I always laugh when i see people on speaker phone holding the bottom of the phone to their face...
Pretty impressive. Hoping for massive improvements to Siri in the near future... At the very least a developer API so some of these same things can be done. Venmo payments would be a huge plus.
It's actually true. I use Quick time anytime I want to record my iPhone screen.
So if Viv is "self-coding", why are these guys showing it off? Surely Viv can show itself off, proudly, if it wrote itself? 
11 mins of geek talk? My attention span can't handle that - yawn - just get to the point FAST, show me a clear and concise demo then go away, and make sure you've got "Viv" speaking back when you do a demo, next time - oh, and those graphics are horrendous - Apple will soon fix that for ya
"Dragon's Den" would boot you out if you took this long to cut to the chase.
11 mins of geek talk? My attention span can't handle that - yawn - just get to the point FAST, show me a clear and concise demo then go away, and make sure you've got "Viv" speaking back when you do a demo, next time - oh, and those graphics are horrendous - Apple will soon fix that for ya
"Dragon's Den" would boot you out if you took this long to cut to the chase.
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So if Viv is "self-coding", why are these guys showing it off? Surely Viv can show itself off, proudly, if it wrote itself?
11 mins of geek talk? My attention span can't handle that - yawn - just get to the point FAST, show me a clear and concise demo then go away, and make sure you've got "Viv" speaking back when you do a demo, next time - oh, and those graphics are horrendous - Apple will soon fix that for ya
"Dragon's Den" would boot you out if you took this long to cut to the chase.
Clearly it's not a consumer demo, it's a demo to engineers and executives who they want to buy their new company.
Yeah and the Macbook with glowing Apple logo and this announcements proximity to WWDC is hard to think of as a coincidence. No big conspiracy, just a gentle little tip-of-the-hat-and-a-wink to Apple, not enough to offend though, just in case they end up selling it back to them
totally not true. siri is much more capable now than even a year ago. and can even do some of the things viv is doing in this demo.
only time i use siri is when i can't focus on launching an app. so it's not for me.
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and then it searches the web for vivJust ask Siri to launch Viv and go from there.
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don't care about fast, i care about being able to what i need when i'm unable to focus on the screen. viv has more capability but if i have to ask siri to launch viv, wait for viv to load, then speak what i need to do, it's already too late.
What I hate most is Tim has the gaul to put out commercials about Siri, yet they have basically side line it and done nothing with it!
Come on Apple, just kill Siri! Put it out of it's misery!
Come on Apple, just kill Siri! Put it out of it's misery!
It's an early demo, but if it knew where I liked to stay, it could be as simple as that. Also, if you were telling your assistant to book you a ride for 6 people you'd need to be pretty specific with them. I've been using Siri more and more recently but it is severely limited in what it can do. I'm not certain I understand the "frictionless" unless it's about being integrated into the OS. If so, completely agree.
You may be right on selling, but I think it's going to take a ton of cash to get them to sell. They have to be disappointed with the route Siri took or they wouldn't have taken a 2nd stab at it. They're creating an ecosystem with a developer environment for integration, so I think they are in this for the long haul. But I'm sure they have their price. I just think there will be some serious terms created around creative license and product roadmap. I hope they do well and create a serious challenge for Siri, Google Voice and Cortana.
Go and play candycrash dude. Tailor made 4 u
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U must be funny at parties
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You are not my father, Todd..
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I'm with you here, let's not forgot the behind the scenes of the iPhone presentation http://gizmodo.com/the-iphones-first-demo-was-buggy-as-hell-1441324523
Yeah and the Macbook with glowing Apple logo and this announcements proximity to WWDC is hard to think of as a coincidence. No big conspiracy, just a gentle little tip-of-the-hat-and-a-wink to Apple, not enough to offend though, just in case they end up selling it back to them
I don't think you can otherwise stream the iPhone's display on a computer, so I think more a necessity than a coincidence
How about Siri being able to understand commands like "Play me a song I'll like" or "Play me something good".
I know Siri isn't perfect and Viv looks promising but isn't it interesting where we've landed when a developer has to goose the audience into acknowledging technology which would have made our jaws drop ten years ago? The offspring of Steve Jobs have become the "What have you done for me lately" generation.
