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Why are you guys are assuming that these are a bunch of pre-programmed strings? Perhaps it's using its AI to generate these jokes without human intervention.

Anyone? No? Ok, never mind.
 
I will never understand all the "Siri is useless" attacks. I use Siri many dozens of times a day for incredibly useful things. It saves me tons of time. Could it do more? Sure — I guess you could ALWAYS say that, no matter how much they add. But good grief, people — we can send texts and e-mails (and have them read to us), control music and podcasts instead of having to dig for them, create calendar entries and reminders, control the lights/thermostats/etc. in our homes, and instantly have answers to all kinds of questions, from "how far is the sun from the earth?" to "how long is Star Trek Beyond?" — all without so much as pushing a button or having to look at a screen at all. You ever stop to think maybe you just like to complain?

If there's some particular feature that you find yourself needing that Siri doesn't provide but seemingly should (and I'm sure there are many), then by all means, keep filling up comment sections everywhere with your grievances; otherwise, I'm going to assume that most of the people talking about how useless Siri is in general never even try to use it.

As for silly Pokemon questions... who cares? Good for them — the fewer times we can get the "would you like me to search the web for ____?" messages, the better. It doesn't affect me, and I guarantee they aren't wasting any significant time or effort on these kinds of things.

My experience with Siri boils down to frustration and over enunciation:
Siri, play Muse's latest album.
*What music would you like to play?*
Play MUSE'S latest album.
*Now playing "In the Hall of Mountain King*
What the ...
 
What's the revenue from? They are really making $10 million from in app purchases? Or do companies pay to set up Pokemon at their locations. What is that business model/deal like?
 
Really? you are just going to assume that anyone who complains hasn't used it? I suspect you haven't used Google Now to know who useless Siri is in comparison.

My wife was trying to change flights awhile back. Asked Siri and got a link to Orbitz. Asked Google Now and got complete flight information, time, airlines, cost etc.

Perhaps your assumption is wrong.

I will never understand all the "Siri is useless" attacks. I use Siri many dozens of times a day for incredibly useful things. It saves me tons of time. Could it do more? Sure — I guess you could ALWAYS say that, no matter how much they add. But good grief, people — we can send texts and e-mails (and have them read to us), control music and podcasts instead of having to dig for them, create calendar entries and reminders, control the lights/thermostats/etc. in our homes, and instantly have answers to all kinds of questions, from "how far is the sun from the earth?" to "how long is Star Trek Beyond?" — all without so much as pushing a button or having to look at a screen at all. You ever stop to think maybe you just like to complain?

If there's some particular feature that you find yourself needing that Siri doesn't provide but seemingly should (and I'm sure there are many), then by all means, keep filling up comment sections everywhere with your grievances; otherwise, I'm going to assume that most of the people talking about how useless Siri is in general never even try to use it.

As for silly Pokemon questions... who cares? Good for them — the fewer times we can get the "would you like me to search the web for ____?" messages, the better. It doesn't affect me, and I guarantee they aren't wasting any significant time or effort on these kinds of things.
 
I wish they would focus on more useful Siri content. When heading out to see the Perseids meteor shower tonight, I asked Siri what time the moon sets. She had no clue.

"OK, Google" at least, brought up some relevant search results.
 
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Well all I can say is - I don't find the reposes "humorous" - but then again, I barely have a passing interest in PokemonGo.
 
Meanwhile:

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WTF Apple, srs? Fail.

how is that a fail?
 
Though I have no desire for this game, I do get a kick out of some of the responses they allow Siri to give at times. It gives Siri a little bit of character in an otherwise boring, digital assistant.

Now if Apple would dedicate some resources toward other area's of their product line, like the Mac Pro, I'd be happier.
 
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Yet I have to yell at it a dozen times to have Siri turn my Hue lights on. Useless.
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"Siri offers humorous responses"

That's pretty much all it does in general

It's like having a mildly retarded sidekick.
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Siri is like a box of chocolates......you never know what you'll get and most of the time nothing.....
and the ones you do get all have bites taken out of them ;)
 
it is just disgusting. all this money and Siri does not know a sh.t about Olympics but they made an effort to recognize a game? really Apple? While we are at this, how about info on Formula 1 which is like one of the most popular racing sport in the world? instead of that we are getting more and more stupid emojis :(
Seriously....THIS 100%! Give us information that actually useful. The most useful times I would actually like to use Siri. Siri cant even understand playing anything on Beats1 other than "Play beats 1" . For example I was playing a game and I asked Siri to "play the latest episode of Elton Johns Rocket hour".......and it couldn't happen. Apples own freaking radio shows.......sad.
 
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Sure - but he would probably refuse to work on this and threaten to leave for TFB or GOOG, so they (AAPL) have to take what and who is available (and willing)....
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Uh huh... If you had details about what it's like to work where I do...
 
@hiroden your post reminded me of this:
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Maybe it's because I am used to talking to toddlers. Or maybe it's because I was such a science fiction nut growing up and am used to the idea of talking to AI, but I usually can get the information I need from Siri and find Siri very useful.

I ask very specific questions and using very stilted speech to break down a complex question into simple tasks for Siri. Sometimes I do a two step process asking one question and building on the first answer to refine the second question to get the answer I seek. I did this yesterday with math.

My daughter has a ton of summer math homework to do and my fraction skills were very rusty, which made checking the homework challenging for me. Using Siri, I was able to get her to calculate the fraction problem, which gave me the answer as a decimal and then I asked her to convert it to a fraction form. Thanks to Siri, I polished the rust off my brain and was able to calculate the rest and finish checking the work on my own. I was so grateful to Siri for saving me the time of looking for my old math books or wandering around the Internet.

Siri has access to enormous amounts of information but getting to it is very much like speaking to a small child. Sometimes children know a great deal but you have to know the right way to ask them if you want the answers.

You should thank Wolfram Alpha (https://www.wolframalpha.com) for that more than Siri
 
I agree. But when people see Apple's focus shifting away from the professional market, towards irrelevant gimmicks then it's hardly surprising people mock and get irate. Perception often holds more power than truth.


true but when that "gimmick" like say pokemonGo, is set to raise apple 3 billion dollars (more then one third of this years R&D expense for apple this year) and basically is PAYING for the new hardware we will have next year. 3 billion is around the amount of total R&D apple used to spend a year up until a few years ago, so everybody here complaining about Apple/MacRumours and them giving things like pokemonGo Attention, or throwing maybe 5 developers(who literally have nothing to do with hardware updates, probably in a different building, on a different campus then anything hardware related) when this "gimmick" like pokemon Go is going bring in more then double what was spend on this MacBook update, i don't see why people are complaining. like literally an app store game something that Apple itself has Spent 0 time themselves developing, that doesnt effect your life other then maybe 1 article a day on this site, is essentially covering the bill on the R&D cost this your for your New MacBook you have been waiting so long for.
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What's the revenue from? They are really making $10 million from in app purchases? Or do companies pay to set up Pokemon at their locations. What is that business model/deal like?
no. poekmon are randomly generated at geo tagged locations, the pokestops and gyms were all submitted by Ingress players for spots in the ingress games for the past 3 years. ALL locations are places rea people have gone to and visit, which is why they submitted for portals to be placed there. Ingress was Niantics(guys that made pokemonGo) first game.

now a business with a pokestop close by may pay the IAP to place a lure there to attract people, but that means they still make an account, log on to the character and purchase the lures in game. just like any other player would. Lures are objects used to placed at a pokestop to attract pokemon to them steadily, but unlike their counter part the incense(which only attracts pokemon to you, and only you can't take advantage of) Lures attract peon that everybody can see and catch. so many people can stand by the pokestop and can take advantage of a Lure from 1 person. so everybody doesnt need to purchase 1, just 1 person every 30 minutes.

Which you don't even have to buy, if you actively take and claim gyms, you get poke coins to use, which is what most good players do, so instead of purchasing them, up to 100 coins a day you can get. which is about 1$ worth of coins, (only 80 are needed for a lure)
 
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If there's some particular feature that you find yourself needing that Siri doesn't provide but seemingly should (and I'm sure there are many), then by all means, keep filling up comment sections everywhere with your grievances; otherwise, I'm going to assume that most of the people talking about how useless Siri is in general never even try to use it.
I find Siri barely useful for a few things (set timer, set reminder). It often misunderstands me unless I adopt an american accent and Is unable to deal with podcasts via anything other than the built-in podcast app (i.e. ignores Overcast).

Place names, obviously get messed up, foreign names obviously not understood, and then getting a "funny" response is just %$#" annoying from something that is just barely able to do a parsing analysis on "set timer" or "set reminder".

I really don't like funny AI (nor, might I add, do people like Dan Benjamin). I don't want a robot to talk back and I think it sets a bad precedent.
 
Really? you are just going to assume that anyone who complains hasn't used it? I suspect you haven't used Google Now to know who useless Siri is in comparison.

My wife was trying to change flights awhile back. Asked Siri and got a link to Orbitz. Asked Google Now and got complete flight information, time, airlines, cost etc.

Perhaps your assumption is wrong.
The assumption of Siri being useless just because various people find it to be useless or find something else to be more useful is essentially similarly wrong.
 
Who writes this stuff? It's SOOOO incredibly clever. Must be David Mamet.







Apple's virtual assistant Siri is known for offering up funny responses to a range of questions, and Apple's Siri team often puts time and effort into providing Siri with answers and comments on current events. This summer, augmented reality game Pokémon Go has become a worldwide phenomenon, and as discovered on Reddit and by 9to5Mac, Siri will now answer questions about the hit game.

A question like "Siri, what's your favorite Pokémon?" receives answers like "That yellow species with an electrostatic tail of variable lengths is rather cute" or "Polymaths prefer Poliwags." Asking Siri if it likes Pokémon Go also results in humorous answers like "I like pocket monsters. Pocket assistants, too."

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Because Siri draws in information from sources like Wolfram Alpha, which has offered information about Pokémon since 2013, the personal assistant can also answer specific questions you ask about Pokémon. Data available includes Pokémon type, abilities, stats, evolutions, and more specific comparative questions about which Pokémon have the highest attack, fastest speed, and more.

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While fervor over Pokémon Go has died down somewhat in recent days due to controversial feature changes and decisions made by Niantic Labs, Pokémon Go set an App Store record for the most ever downloads during its first week of availability.

It is considered the biggest mobile game in U.S. history and has been downloaded more than 100 million times. According to estimates, the game brings in more than $10 million in daily revenue across the iOS and Google Play app stores.

To find other questions Siri gives funny answers to, Siri.io, a new website that offers a comprehensive list of Siri commands is worth checking out.

Article Link: Siri Offers Humorous Responses to Questions About Hit Game Pokémon Go
 
I agree. But when people see Apple's focus shifting away from the professional market, towards irrelevant gimmicks then it's hardly surprising people mock and get irate. Perception often holds more power than truth.


That's the point. Apple has over a hundred thousand employees. To suggest that Apple 's focus is "shifting" because they are experimenting with some minor content projects is ludicrous. It's like suggesting that their developing special watch bands for the Olympics to be sold just in Rio or their new employee fitness center, much larger and more expensive/complex than some content project are"gimmicks" that is shifting their focus.

And to say Apple is shifting away from the professional market could only come from someone who just emerged from a 20 year coma to find that Apple created things like the one of the most successful consumer products in the world, having sold a billion iPhones, totally dominated music sales world wide, etc.

Finally, to "get irate" over any of the above is too have lost perspective in one's life. I didn't like it when Mt. Dew started experimenting with new flavors instead of just focusing on the best all-time creation--Diet Dew-- but after some angst, I moved on.
 
That's the point. Apple has over a hundred thousand employees. To suggest that Apple 's focus is "shifting" because they are experimenting with some minor content projects is ludicrous. It's like suggesting that their developing special watch bands for the Olympics to be sold just in Rio or their new employee fitness center, much larger and more expensive/complex than some content project are"gimmicks" that is shifting their focus.

And to say Apple is shifting away from the professional market could only come from someone who just emerged from a 20 year coma to find that Apple created things like the one of the most successful consumer products in the world, having sold a billion iPhones, totally dominated music sales world wide, etc.

Finally, to "get irate" over any of the above is too have lost perspective in one's life. I didn't like it when Mt. Dew started experimenting with new flavors instead of just focusing on the best all-time creation--Diet Dew-- but after some angst, I moved on.
You say "that's the point", yet seemed to have entirely missed my point.

It's not really about what they are actually doing, it's about what people perceive them to be doing. Although we all have our own biases what can greatly affect how we view the world, Apple are still the ones who control what they produce, which in turn affects how their products and the company itself is perceived. When the Mac line has languished without a refresh for so long, and Siri is in dire need of improvements beyond witty repartee, they would do well to manage their output more wisely.

It's more than just the products themselves which drive sales, it is also to a large extent brand reputation. Steve Jobs was right to get mad when certain product "failures" tarnished Apple's name. That is the first thing you should protect.

It's also not necessarily my opinion, nor is it fact they Apple is, or intends to, shift away from the professional market. My point is, things like Siri's "humour" don't exactly help with that perception.
 
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