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Siri on iOS Answered 78.5% of Queries Correctly in Latest Test, Trailing Google Assistant at 85.5%

Every year this survey seems to Come up with comparisons. Is Siri as advanced as Google? No. But Siri does things really well for what I need it to for in house commands with my Apple Watch, iPad, iPhone, etc. I
Use Siri for dictation every single day and for the most part, I have no issues with it. Where I would like to see Siri improved would be deciphering words better and providing more detail results of questions being asked. Otherwise, Siri is a crucial part to my iOS experience.
 
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Heineken said:
Impressive number without any personal data mining.
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Sigh. At this point do we really need to go over and correct this again? Google does not mine your personal data. Apple does not mine your personal data. What both companies do is sell targeted ad slots - all of which is anonymous. This myth that somehow Google is the boogyman and Apple is the personal data savior is getting old.
 
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Naraxus said:
Sigh. At this point do we really need to go over and correct this again? Google does not mine your personal data. Apple does not mine your personal data. What both companies do is sell targeted ad slots - all of which is anonymous. This myth that somehow Google is the boogyman and Apple is the personal data savior is getting old.
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Uh huh.
Sure they don’t

Why Facebook and Google mine your data, and why there’s nothing you can do to stop it
https://bgr.com/2016/02/11/why-face...and-why-theres-nothing-you-can-do-to-stop-it/

Are you ready? Here is all the data Facebook and Google have on you
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...l-the-data-facebook-google-has-on-you-privacy

Google sued for data-mining students’ email
https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2014/03/18/google-sued-for-data-mining-students-email/

Lawsuit Alleges That Google Has Crossed A 'Creepy Line' With Student Data
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/17/google-data-mining-students_n_4980422.html

Google Acknowledges Data Mining Student Users Outside Apps for Education
https://mobile.edweek.org/c.jsp?cid...i.edweek.org/v1/blog/63/index.html?uuid=56822

Google’s Snoops: Mining Our Data for Profit and Pleasure
https://www.dissentmagazine.org/onl...noops-mining-our-data-for-profit-and-pleasure

Google Mines Gmail for Big Data Gold
https://medium.com/@jeffgould/google-mines-gmail-for-big-data-gold-cea42e9b88ee
 
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DrJohnnyN said:
Siriously still bad.
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just did a test with Siri on my iPad 6 vs Google Assistant on my Moto G5. I'm a big fan of the club Arsenal FC (a soccer club in England) and asked them "when is Arsenal's next match?".
Google Assistant correctly said there is a match coming up tomorrow at 5 pm and gave me more options which included the option to put the Match timing to my calender which I did.
Siri, on the other hand, said that the next match is on August 12 !!! Lol
Also, there wasn't an option to set a reminder.

Google Assistant just works !
 
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In my personal non scientific test Alexa is far far better than Siri at understanding
 
FFR said:
Uh huh.
Sure they don’t

Why Facebook and Google mine your data, and why there’s nothing you can do to stop it
https://bgr.com/2016/02/11/why-face...and-why-theres-nothing-you-can-do-to-stop-it/

Are you ready? Here is all the data Facebook and Google have on you
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...l-the-data-facebook-google-has-on-you-privacy

Google sued for data-mining students’ email
https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2014/03/18/google-sued-for-data-mining-students-email/

Lawsuit Alleges That Google Has Crossed A 'Creepy Line' With Student Data
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/17/google-data-mining-students_n_4980422.html

Google Acknowledges Data Mining Student Users Outside Apps for Education
https://mobile.edweek.org/c.jsp?cid=25920011&item=http://api.edweek.org/v1/blog/63/index.html?uuid=56822

Google’s Snoops: Mining Our Data for Profit and Pleasure
https://www.dissentmagazine.org/onl...noops-mining-our-data-for-profit-and-pleasure

Google Mines Gmail for Big Data Gold
https://medium.com/@jeffgould/google-mines-gmail-for-big-data-gold-cea42e9b88ee
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But you didn't bother reading any of them before parroting the myth did you? Got it.
 
“Siri, play Tom Petty on Spotify” = fail.
“Siri, set the living room to 75” = fail (Nest).

Two of my main use cases are not available.
 
ikir said:
Absolutely not. Sure whiners will always say that.
Siri was and it is great, few years ago was impossible to dream of speak to your device. I use Siri about every hour for work.
Internet forums users tend to bash everything. Siri also is available on many languages and it is a big plus.
Cortana is quite bad for example, want to bash something? Cortana is there.
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Siri still has a long way to go at dictation which is what I use it for most. The biggest gripe I have is that it has absolutely no contextual awareness (or at least it would seem that way). However, I do agree that in other areas the ability of Siri to properly execute commands etc. has improved. The shortcuts tool in iOS 12 is what I am looking forward to most of all.
 
PickUrPoison said:
So you didn’t read the article :rolleyes:
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Actually, I took it to mean that the poster—like me—would like to see the degree of success that they found in their study, and the poster's comment was a humorous, self-referential, potentially user-error comment (maybe siri needs to teach us more how to speak to it?). I haven't figured out why I'm hitting about 20% even on simple siri requests. But siri can't even pronounce Antony right (it insists my name has an h in it, even when I try to teach it...), so my expectations are quite low.
 
FFR said:
Uh huh.
Sure they don’t

Why Facebook and Google mine your data, and why there’s nothing you can do to stop it
https://bgr.com/2016/02/11/why-face...and-why-theres-nothing-you-can-do-to-stop-it/
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Anonymous ad tracking: "By knowing our likes and dislikes, Facebook, Google and others can offer us ads that we’re more likely to click."

Are you ready? Here is all the data Facebook and Google have on you
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...l-the-data-facebook-google-has-on-you-privacy
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The issue here is the author openly allowed Google to store this information. If you disallow those features, Google will have hardly anything on you. This falls in line with he is easy to social engineer.

Google sued for data-mining students’ email
https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2014/03/18/google-sued-for-data-mining-students-email/
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Anonymous ad tracking: "Google is in hot water for scanning millions of students’ email messages and allegedly building “surreptitious” profiles to target advertising at them."

Lawsuit Alleges That Google Has Crossed A 'Creepy Line' With Student Data
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/17/google-data-mining-students_n_4980422.html
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Anonymous ad tracking.

Google Acknowledges Data Mining Student Users Outside Apps for Education
https://mobile.edweek.org/c.jsp?cid=25920011&item=http://api.edweek.org/v1/blog/63/index.html?uuid=56822
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"Industry representatives, on the other hand, argued that Google is doing nothing wrong, the company should be applauded for its increased transparency, and that it appears to be making a good-faith effort to navigate tricky technical waters faced by many large technology companies who provide both commercial and educational products and services."

"I think they're within their right to improve their products by using student information," said Brendan Desetti, the director of education policy for the Software & Information Industry Association, a Washington-based trade group.

Google’s Snoops: Mining Our Data for Profit and Pleasure
https://www.dissentmagazine.org/onl...noops-mining-our-data-for-profit-and-pleasure
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Anonymous ad tracking.

Google Mines Gmail for Big Data Gold
https://medium.com/@jeffgould/google-mines-gmail-for-big-data-gold-cea42e9b88ee
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Anonymous ad tracking.


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The bottom line here is social engineering is incredibly easy as demonstrated by your second citation.

Any service you use can be subjected to privacy concerns if a) you don't read the acceptance policies and b) you don't use common sense.

The only way to stop any mining from any service, including Apple's, is to just not use the service. Otherwise, peruse the settings for those respective services and disable things you don't want Google or Apple to track. Easy, right?
 
UkiyoeNo17 said:
Actually, I took it to mean that the poster—like me—would like to see the degree of success that they found in their study, and the poster's comment was a humorous, self-referential, potentially user-error comment (maybe siri needs to teach us more how to speak to it?). I haven't figured out why I'm hitting about 20% even on simple siri requests. But siri can't even pronounce Antony right (it insists my name has an h in it, even when I try to teach it...), so my expectations are quite low.
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After 8 years the humorous quotient has declined to near zero. It’s been used here thousands of times.

But yeah, you’re right... some users aren’t able to be understood very well by artificial assistants. I don’t know why. If that’s what the OP meant, that discussion would have value. A drive-by of a mis-quote well past it’s expiration date doesn’t :)
 
Perhaps Apple should add a "Siri, that's stupid" command. Siri could then respond, "I'm sorry to be so stupid," and flag the query for later study.
 
ipponrg said:
Anonymous ad tracking: "By knowing our likes and dislikes, Facebook, Google and others can offer us ads that we’re more likely to click."



The issue here is the author openly allowed Google to store this information. If you disallow those features, Google will have hardly anything on you. This falls in line with he is easy to social engineer.



Anonymous ad tracking: "Google is in hot water for scanning millions of students’ email messages and allegedly building “surreptitious” profiles to target advertising at them."



Anonymous ad tracking.



"Industry representatives, on the other hand, argued that Google is doing nothing wrong, the company should be applauded for its increased transparency, and that it appears to be making a good-faith effort to navigate tricky technical waters faced by many large technology companies who provide both commercial and educational products and services."

"I think they're within their right to improve their products by using student information," said Brendan Desetti, the director of education policy for the Software & Information Industry Association, a Washington-based trade group.



Anonymous ad tracking.



Anonymous ad tracking.


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The bottom line here is social engineering is incredibly easy as demonstrated by your second citation.

Any service you use can be subjected to privacy concerns if a) you don't read the acceptance policies and b) you don't use common sense.

The only way to stop any mining from any service, including Apple's, is to just not use the service. Otherwise, peruse the settings for those respective services and disable things you don't want Google or Apple to track. Easy, right?
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Are you joking.
What you call ad tracking is google mining your data.

In one of the articles what you call ad tracking, or in reality mining student data:

“A Google spokeswoman confirmed to Education Week that the company “scans and indexes” the emails of all Apps for Education users for a variety of purposes, including potential advertising, via automated processes that cannot be turned off--even for Apps for Education customers who elect not to receive ads”

Uh huh.

“The harvesting of our personal details goes far beyond what many of us could imagine. So I braced myself and had a look”

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...l-the-data-facebook-google-has-on-you-privacy

Right according to you it’s user error for using google services. Smh.

Quite the amount of social engineering required to get that much information out of one person .

I wonder what Apple does, according to you must be the same.

I asked Apple for all my data. Here's what was sent back

“Apple gave me all the data it collected on me since I bought my first iPhone — in 2010. That was nearly a decade ago.... The recent Cambridge Analytica scandal revealed just how much tech companies have on us -- enough to figure out who we might vote for at the ballot box, for example.

Apple? Not so much.

Apple took a little over a week to send me all the data it's collected on me, amounting to almost two dozen Excel spreadsheets at just 5MB in total -- roughly the equivalent of a high-quality photo snapped on my iPhone.”

https://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-data-collection-stored-request/

The amount of data google acquires on each individual user is staggering to assert that Apple is responsible for the same, is disingenuous.
 
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TimmeyCook said:
Wowa...

Do you also believe in Santa Claus?
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You really have no clue do you about what Google does and does not mine. They are not mining your PERSONAL data. They are selling ANONYMOUS ad slots, just like Apple does with it's iTunes/Mac/iBook stores & they did with iAds. I really have no idea why this concept troubles people so much
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FFR said:
The amount of data google acquires on each individual user is staggering to assert that Apple is responsible for the same, is disingenuous.
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No. What's disingenuous is assertions like yours, Apple's and others that Google is mining personal data when they're doing nothing of the sort.
 
Naraxus said:
Sigh. At this point do we really need to go over and correct this again? Google does not mine your personal data. Apple does not mine your personal data. What both companies do is sell targeted ad slots - all of which is anonymous. This myth that somehow Google is the boogyman and Apple is the personal data savior is getting old.
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It is literally Google's business model to sell data. It is Apple's business model to sell hardware.

Sometimes, that data can be collected in a sufficiently anonymous manner. And oftentimes, it can't.
 
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chucker23n1 said:
It is literally Google's business model to sell data. It is Apple's business model to sell hardware.

Sometimes, that data can be collected in a sufficiently anonymous manner. And oftentimes, it can't.
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Nice attempt at obfuscation but we're not discussing business models. Both Apple and Google sell what are called TARGETED AD SLOTS. Both are completely anonymous. It's not your personal data they're selling.
 
to each his own, but after all the data-mining and secret tracking I no longer feel safe using microphone enabled service to record my voice and more. Companies who get caught do not get punished for it, those who do, get fined a measly amount like the $5B Europe fined Google which is like just 1 month in revenue.

Voice assisstant is amazing, but the price is too high for someone to hold a database of everything I say and search for. Apple is most truth worthy, but they still do keep data on you and I am not sure if you can select delete it or you have to delete your whole account which will delete your iTunes purchases, Apps, emails, storage, Safari history and books marks, and everything else.
 
This test ties in with my own observations when using Siri. Very good for commands, navigation and information about local places. It’s hit and miss with general knowledge. Commerce is pretty non existant.

It’s good to see that it improved and it is generally good at understanding what I’ve said.

Using the iOS Apps for Cortana and Alexa is pretty pointless. So this was a two way comparison for me.
 
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