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BoyGenius points to some sketchy evidence found in their browser logs that seems to suggest iPhone OS 3.1.3 and 4.0 are being used in the wild.


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The reason we label this as "sketchy" is that the ability to fake user agents is trivial. Many browser add-ons let you simply type in whatever you would like into the "user agent" field that is being reported. In this case, we also found similar user agent strings in our logs, though they were not originating out of an Apple IP address, but instead out of somewhere in Florida. Little else can be said about the finding.

iPhone 4.0 would suggest Apple is prepping a major OS update. iPhone 3.0 was just released back in July. A full version number upgrade would indicate a major release update.


Article Link: Sketchy Evidence of iPhone 3.1.3 and iPhone 4.0 OS
 

rickdollar

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Mar 12, 2007
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4.0?

If the iPhone isn't coming until this summer, shouldn't it be a major point release? These other phones are catching up. Apple's going to have to do something to differentiate themselves further from the copycats.
 
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christall109

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Jun 15, 2007
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Just do your own laundry. Not that big of a deal.

Steve

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Perfect.


Anyway this would make sense. Google Turn by Turn and Radio App here we go!

I'm going to guess January/February release of 4.0 beta SDK.

And arn when did iPhone OS 3.0 and 2.0 start showing up in MacRumors logs? I think history here could be a good indicator here of a timeline.
 
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kockgunner

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Sep 24, 2007
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Just do your own laundry. Not that big of a deal.

Steve

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Haha!

One thing I hope to get from 4.0 is a more 'active' homescreen that has widgets like Android and even Windows Mobile (gasp!). Having to always go into applications and close out of them is not efficient. Also, having a way to organize apps would be nice.
 
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macfan881

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Feb 22, 2006
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I love this quote

A full version number upgrade would indicate a major release update.

Thank you captin obvious :D
 
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macduke

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Just a couple days ago I was thinking that a new iPhone update would be coming soon. In addition, using 4.0 in the wild seems like something that should be happening, since it was what...the last two Marchs that OS 2.0 ans 3.0 were unveiled to the public? Only a few more months to go! Also, this makes me think that this might be another subtle Apple leak to keep attention on them. I mean, visiting the BGR? They're cell phone crazy over there. If you want word to get out, thats where you start! In addition to MR of course!

Also, off-topic: Has anyone checked out the article over at 9to5mac about the new video recording app that was approved for the original iPhone and iPhone 3g? Apparently the resolution sucks, but the devs are working on it. Is Apple starting to give in or is this just a mistake? Perhaps Cycorder will follow? I know lots of people who would be happy about that.
 
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superstrikertwo

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Each iPhone release has had a new version number sure we're still 6-7 months away from a release but surely they have something to test and workout by now. I would also like to know when 3.0 started showing up in the logs.
 
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iWork

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With regards to Arnold's observations, AT&T's wireless network is most developed in certain parts of Florida. Certain counties of Florida have a third carrier for HSPA and are in the process of upgrading to HSPA 7.2.

It may therefore be network compatibility testing on the part of AT&T.

I'd like to add my voice to the tide of curiosity of when other OS updates began appearing in logs.
 
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TuffLuffJimmy

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Apr 6, 2007
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Why would 3.1.3 and 4.0 both be showing up ? If there's a major release of 4.0 why even have 3.1.3 ?

Because 4.0 won't be released until next summer. 3.1.3 will come sooner, however, Apple still wants to work out bugs in the 4.0 software before it's released.
 
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superstrikertwo

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Why would 3.1.3 and 4.0 both be showing up ? If there's a major release of 4.0 why even have 3.1.3 ?

4.0 could still be in early stages of testing and 3.1.3 could be in the later stages. I'm sure they will release another iPhone update between now and the next iPhone refresh.
 
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na1577

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I'm going to guess January/February release of 4.0 beta SDK.

And arn when did iPhone OS 3.0 and 2.0 start showing up in MacRumors logs? I think history here could be a good indicator here of a timeline.

I'm guessing March for the 4.0 preview, just like 2.0 and 3.0. (I'm also guessing 3.2 for January, although I don't have any historical basis for that)

Also, 2.0 and 3.0 never showed up ahead of their announcement. I'm calling BS on this rumor.
 
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Abyssgh0st

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I think the 3.1.3 is BS, I think if they release another update for iPhone OS 3.x.x it'll be 3.2.0.


And yeah, they're testing 4.0 in Florida. Before giving us developers anything in the Dev Center; seems plausible. :rolleyes:

Assuming they are testing it somewhere it'd be Cupertino, and even at that us devs should be getting a beta in 3 months or so anyways.
 
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SpeedFleX

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Apr 22, 2009
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Why would 3.1.3 and 4.0 both be showing up ? If there's a major release of 4.0 why even have 3.1.3 ?

You are right why even do that, I mean let the customers wait a couple of months for small bug fixes and stuff.

pfff Apple testing bug fixes and major upgrades what noobs!!
 
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commander.data

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Nov 10, 2006
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Personally, I'm hoping for a major interim update, say iPhone 3.5, which will add some form of limited background app functionality to all iPhones and iPod Touches. And then hoping iPhone OS 4.0 will focus more on the 3rd gen and up models and enable full multi-application usage for those models accompanying a redesigned UI for all with extra OpenGL ES 2.0 shader effects for models that support it.
 
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jettredmont

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Each iPhone release has had a new version number sure we're still 6-7 months away from a release but surely they have something to test and workout by now. I would also like to know when 3.0 started showing up in the logs.

Point is, if they really didn't want people knowing who has 4.0/etc, they wouldn't have made the user agent string so damned obvious.

It's not like they need 6 months of testing that user agent string! The user agent string can be changed at the last minute. There should be a subtle difference in it to allow internal tracking and differentiation, but the blatant difference shouldn't appear until a month or so before finalization and release.

That having been said, either Apple is employing folks who don't understand that user agents go out to every site you visit, or Apple wants / doesn't care if this information is out there. There's no middle ground, and I happen to believe that the first option is preposterous. So, Apple wants this out there or is at least apathetic.

Anything new here? No. Just news that they really are working on the iPhone 4.0 OS. No details on the features of the OS or the hardware it requires, just notice that the OS is being worked on and is stable enough to be on the public networks (do we even know if this is coming in from AT&T or someone's ISP/wifi?) Not much we didn't already know.

I vote for this being a deliberate "leak" to get attention off the Google phone leaks. In the war of the leaks, Google's won this battle, hands-down.
 
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Compile 'em all

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Point is, if they really didn't want people knowing who has 4.0/etc, they wouldn't have made the user agent string so damned obvious.

This is nothing new. I don't know why are you surprised. For every OS release for the iPhone and hardware revisions so far, user agents have appeared in some sites including the one you're are posting on right now. It happened before, and now it is just happening again.

There is no "conspiracy" going on.
 
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arn

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And arn when did iPhone OS 3.0 and 2.0 start showing up in MacRumors logs? I think history here could be a good indicator here of a timeline.

Unfortunately, we don't keep historic logs. Our log files for the macrumors are too big to keep around for long.

arn
 
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