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Come on....

I mean, I guess you have to report it, but no way this happens.

Also, can we please stop calling these "esports?"

These are not "sports." "esports" "players" are not athletes.

Here's the definition of "sports" from macOS: "an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment: team sports such as baseball and soccer | (as modifier sports) : a sports center. (emphasis added)."
I agree with this. While gaming takes a certain amount of hand eye coordination, there is no physical exertion. As with anything if you have that skill set and all you do is practice that skill set for hours a day, you’ll excel. That being said. They are not athletes noR professional athletes. I’m guessing Ninja couldn’t throw a ball much less catch one.
 
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Some time around June we are going to have the next generation of GPUs released.
It's going to be interesting to see if this ends up being an actual gaming computer or not.
I would LOVE to have one which is good not only at video editing, but also at gaming. It will save me money.
 
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And for what I put in to my current gaming rig, to boot.
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I agree with this. While gaming takes a certain amount of hand eye coordination, there is no physical exertion. As with anything if you have that skill set and all you do is practice that skill set for hours a day, you’ll excel. That being said. They are not athletes noR professional athletes. I’m guessing Ninja couldn’t throw a ball much less catch one.

Gaming is not a sport nor is poker. Gamers and card players are not athletes, period.

I might argue the exertion a bit though. Tanking will often make my right hand gripping my Logitech G600 tired.
 
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It might be that or it might be a "Mac Pro mini"

The report cites a 'gaming laptop' or iMac type screen. For Intel performance gaming it sounds unlikely but what if Apple were making a 24" 4k iMac with a 120Hz Pro-motion refresh? Or a 14" MacBook Pro with a 120Hz Pro-motion screen? That would require a fairly beefy GPU without mentioning games.

Besides, when the article mentions eSports I don't immediately think of $5k Intel PCs which are upgraded regularly - I'm thinking lesser machines capable of running Fortnite or DOTA or similar. Not so called AAA gaming titles which need beefy Windows machines which get upgraded every 4-6 months.

And Windows has several years headstart on that sort of thing anyway.

So why not stick with the ARM hardware which is going into iPhones and iPads and prove whether or not that platform is capable of matching the PS5 and Xbox Series X for gaming performance next year?

All the 4k Pro has to do is bench similarly to the Sony/Microsoft machine, be able to run smoothly on a 4k 60Hz TV, and have enough RAM to be able to cope with 5 years of support from Apple's tvOS updates.

Console refresh schedules would favour Apple's way of working anyway - release the hardware and leave it as a static platform for 3-5 years so developers can work towards that (obviously with full support from tvOS software updates). Any in between upgrades can involve increased levels of NAND storage rather than having to change the hardware.
 
They must of had the same dream I had. There's no way and no reason for Apple to produce a machine like that.

They'd have to find a really REALLY good reason to convince even a light gamer that the Mac platform is on par with or better than the dominant PC platform.

And up-to $5000 means they have to convince serious gamers that it's better to buy the Mac equivalent of a Alienware over a DIY system.

And that's just for the hardware.

We'd still need to see developers make games for the Mac platform.
 
Also, can we please stop calling these "esports?"

These are not "sports." "esports" "players" are not athletes.

Here's the definition of "sports" from macOS: "an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment: team sports such as baseball and soccer | (as modifier sports) : a sports center. (emphasis added)."

I think people have interpreted physical exertion to encompass mental exertion as well. I don't necessarily disagree with this because the brain is part of our physical being, right? Thus, things like chess and poker can be a sport as well.
 
Apple plans to announce a high-end gaming computer at its annual WWDC developers conference in 2020, according to a questionable and as-of-yet unsubstantiated report from Taiwan's Economic Daily News.
I guess someone drank too much Christmas punch.

Apple has shown no interest at all in the past for hardcore/competitive gaming, and hardcore/competitive "gamers" have shown no interest at all in Apple (at least no positive one).

Come on....

I mean, I guess you have to report it, but no way this happens.

Also, can we please stop calling these "esports?"

These are not "sports." "esports" "players" are not athletes.

Here's the definition of "sports" from macOS: "an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment: team sports such as baseball and soccer | (as modifier sports) : a sports center. (emphasis added)."
And yet, things like chess, curling, and shooting count as "sports"…
 
These are not "sports." "esports" "players" are not athletes.

Here's the definition of "sports" from macOS: "an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment: team sports such as baseball and soccer | (as modifier sports) : a sports center. (emphasis added)."

I agree, but I think the real line is drawn from the competition side of things, as opposed to the physical exertion.

If all it takes to make something a sport is any kind of physical exertion than posting the definition would go against the argument. Pushing buttons is physical. Just like moving a chess piece or pulling a trigger is too.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think "esports" should be in the Olympics, but at least they put the "E" in front to differentiate it from the sweat, blood, and tears that go into more traditional athletics.
 
I think they will be beter off maing a generic high end mac that happens to be good, or configurable, for gamers too. they will sell more that way.
 
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It would be interesting to see an iMac with a full on gaming card integrated into it (from the standpoint of form factor changes).
 
Come on....

I mean, I guess you have to report it, but no way this happens.

Also, can we please stop calling these "esports?"

These are not "sports." "esports" "players" are not athletes.

Here's the definition of "sports" from macOS: "an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment: team sports such as baseball and soccer | (as modifier sports) : a sports center. (emphasis added)."

Competitive gaming is a sport. Requires lots of hand-eye coordination and many hours of practice.

Darts is a sport.
 
I can build a machine with an i9-9900kf and an RTX 2080Ti for half the price. Without any upgradeability this is hugely overpriced.
You don't need that stuff though. The biggest reason gaming on Macs sucks is just the OS incompatibility. OpenGL is kept old, DirectX doesn't exist, and IIRC Vulkan is somehow handicapped. Like, CS:GO has noticeable input lag and framerate inconsistency in macOS on my desktop, but if I boot into Windows, it's perfect. Some games treat macOS as first-class and perform perfectly on it, but many are just ports.

If Apple goes for the gaming market, they'll have to start where Nvidia + Microsoft started together: Corner some game devs on their standards (Metal), and become the only real choice for playing certain games.
 
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The report cites a 'gaming laptop' or iMac type screen. For Intel performance gaming it sounds unlikely but what if Apple were making a 24" 4k iMac with a 120Hz Pro-motion refresh? Or a 14" MacBook Pro with a 120Hz Pro-motion screen? That would require a fairly beefy GPU without mentioning games.

Besides, when the article mentions eSports I don't immediately think of $5k Intel PCs which are upgraded regularly - I'm thinking lesser machines capable of running Fortnite or DOTA or similar. Not so called AAA gaming titles which need beefy Windows machines which get upgraded every 4-6 months.

And Windows has several years headstart on that sort of thing anyway.

So why not stick with the ARM hardware which is going into iPhones and iPads and prove whether or not that platform is capable of matching the PS5 and Xbox Series X for gaming performance next year?

All the 4k Pro has to do is bench similarly to the Sony/Microsoft machine, be able to run smoothly on a 4k 60Hz TV, and have enough RAM to be able to cope with 5 years of support from Apple's tvOS updates.

Console refresh schedules would favour Apple's way of working anyway - release the hardware and leave it as a static platform for 3-5 years so developers can work towards that (obviously with full support from tvOS software updates). Any in between upgrades can involve increased levels of NAND storage rather than having to change the hardware.
There are not many choices now, as most of current GPUs could not handle 4K at 120Hz for gaming. Or Metal 3 provides a revolutionary method about increasing the performance...
 
Just give the option of getting nVidia GPUs on Macs, same as PC manufactures.... at let people choose.
 
They will also announce that the spaceship campus is in fact a spaceship and will begin its journey to Jupiter by fall of 2020. It will be controlled by a new updated version of Siri with a new Heuristically Programmed Algorithmic AI built in.
 
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