Finally, Apple is pushing the carriers to drop physical SIMs. There's absolutely no reason for this, we don't drop phones every other week like Mission Impossible.
Some people like to take advantage of “new customers only!” prices and switch from carrier to carrier. Staying with a company out of “loyalty” is boomer nonsense.One less thing to worry about. Most people don’t need to hot swap sim cards anyway. I haven’t even opened my sim tray in years now, since the day I bought my phone.
I'm not familiar with any privacy issues. Both physical and eSIM identify the phone as a subscriber to a particular cellular carrier. I'm not aware of any additional information contained in an eSIM that isn't present in a physical SIM.
I suppose loss of privacy could come into play because the registration of an eSIM will always involve the carrier in some way, with the registration process presumably requiring identification of the user. In the case of pre-paid physical SIMs purchased off a display in a shop (where the carrier never knows the identity of the user), this could eliminate user anonymity.
I'm also not aware of how/why Apple could demand a cut of carrier revenue simply for the use of eSIM. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a one-time fee - eSIM can save carriers a fair amount of money, so a "convenience fee" from Apple for accessing eSIM seem quite plausible. But "cut of eSIM carrier revenue" suggests an ongoing percentage of service revenue. Considering the one-time benefit of eSIM and the ease of opting out of using eSIM at all, I don't see carriers agreeing to pay Apple any kind of ongoing percentage for this capability.
This. Leave to ATT and Verizon to mess up things as they for sure will.I'm not so sure about only having a Digital SIM. Does the user have anyway of changing out a digital SIM, or is it in the full control of the cellphone service carrier? Granted I don't claim to fully understand Digital SIM, and what benefits it might have.
Maybe it is just my generally poor experience with AT&T service online and in store ?
Removing feature is an upgrade these days.In fact, my carrier doesn't even have eSIM. I don't see how this would be viable unless they want to force people to not use their new phones.
and a moment of silence for those who thinks their opinion is the only valid oneA moment silence please for the seven Macrumors members who will complain about being unable to hot-swap SIMs.
Let’s not. I take it you’ve never had to do a DFU restore.One less Thing is getting eliminated. An inch closer to a portless iPhone. Let's get it.
Nice. Who are you referring to?and a moment of silence for those who thinks their opinion is the only valid one
I was trying to get my head around why the article speaks of just two eSIMs. Surely we all have enough storage for thousands? But if I read you right, it is just a matter of how many concurrently active eSIMs.eSIM is within control of the new carrier - a new eSIM can over-write an existing eSIM from another carrier (actually, the iPhone can store multiple eSIM data sets - only one of which can be loaded at a time). So, if I read your comment correctly... eSIM cannot be used by a carrier to prevent a user from switching to another carrier.
Am I missing something here? The iPhone 13/Pro does have support for two eSIM.What I can see within two years is the ability to operate an iPhone with two active eSIMS.
That's correct. For instance, you can have both your work number and your personal number active on the same device. Or you can set a split. For instance, phone calls would go through one provider, while data goes through another.Am I missing something here? The iPhone 13/Pro does have support for two eSIM.
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Lack of physical SIM card? Portless, Lightning or USB-C? Hole-Punch or notch? These are just cosmetic details to distract the audience.
I just want what really matters: an iPhone with M2X processor, 64GB of RAM, both iOS and macOS to choose from, 4K resolution ouput, so I can also use it as a Mac... OK, I just asked too much... Maybe just M1 with 16GB of RAM?
just wait for the iPhone 15 - problem solved, new display/touch capability, it will come as a rumor next years the timeHow do you use the touch screen while diving? Totally useless...
That’s definitely one scenario where having a physical SIM card for your US account would’ve been better. I was thinking about removing my physical SIM card and activating my eSIM before I go to Europe next year in case I want to use a SIM card from a European carrier. Thanks for the warning.eSIMs can be wiped out unexpectedly. This happened to me while traveling in Italy. I was having network issues, so the "helpful" Vodaphone staff troubleshooted their physical SIM by first wiping out my US eSIM. eSIMs are useful for theft protection, but I have greater control with a physical SIM, which is what I have gone back to using.
Only when all global carriers get onboard with eSIMs. At the moment, that’s not the case. Unless Apple is okay with leaving some carriers and their subscribers behind when it comes to purchasing the first iPhone that does away with physical SIM cards.About time. Having physical SIM cards seem to be a relic of the past. Digital eSIMs appear the way to go.
What ever people are paying Service Providers for there cellular serviceWhat are SP fees?
Yeah, at the moment for many carriers located in far-flung and some not so far-flung destinations, eSIMs are still way off. Maybe in 5-10 years it will be a different story, but in 2023 the situation probably won’t be much different than today.Not for those of us who travel internationally with any frequency.