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Skyhook's Wi-Fi Location Technology for iPhone/iPod touch
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It obviously can't, that post must be referring to iPhone functionality since this thread is about both the touch and the iPhone.
Cingular's Old Find Me Technology
As I recall this technology was much more precise on the old cel phones than Google's current technology on the iPhone. I tend to wonder why this is and if so then why Apple didn't incorporate it into the iPhone. I've noticed the maps aren't too accurate and don't trinagulate that well.
As I recall this technology was much more precise on the old cel phones than Google's current technology on the iPhone. I tend to wonder why this is and if so then why Apple didn't incorporate it into the iPhone. I've noticed the maps aren't too accurate and don't trinagulate that well.
The location in London, UK is awesome for the most part...driving into london from my house I was able to get locations of roughly 30m diameter circle whenever I updated. Fantastic stuff. There's a lot of micro-cells there too (I have an iPhone) but there must be a fair bit of wifi involved to get the location as narrow as 30m circles!
So - is it possible to register your home Wi-Fi with them? I looked all over their site and I couldn't find anything. I'd like to register my location 1) so when I click it at home it'll zoom really far in and that'd be cool and 2) for any other iPhone users driving by to get a good reading. Right now the reading at my house is about half a mile off.
If somebody could provide a link that'd be great! Thanks
If somebody could provide a link that'd be great! Thanks
Could you be more specific?
1) How do i find the MAC address for my router? I've googled the issue and the solutions i find are little applets that run in windows. How do I do it with a macbook, linksys xrs400 wireless router, and an airport express?
2) Describe again how to get coordinates, please. I found my location on google maps but can't convert to coordinates. Can you be more specific about where to put the line of code you describe?
thanks: Locate Me has worked well in some places but it locates my home one county, three cities, and six or seven miles away. From what i've read here, it sounds like one of my routers must have been there when Skyhook mapped it, though I have no idea how that could have happened. Or maybe my phone's finding a neighbor's signal rather than my own, even in my home. (?) In any case, i'd like to try a fix. Thanks.
I use KisMAC though tools like iStumbler would work just as well. These kinds of apps list the wireless networks in range of your wireless card and display details about them. MAC address is one of those details. Your router's control panel should also have it's MAC address displayed somewhere. In the case of my AirPort Extreme base station the AirPort Utility shows the MAC address along with my SSID on it's main screen.
I should have been more specific.
After googling your address enter
Code:
javascript:void(prompt('',gApplication.getMap().getCenter()));
My answer was going to be, pick up the router and read the little label on the bottom.
No?
Technology like this is better used in areas with shops and non-moving WiFi access points than using everything under the sun.
Because of this, it's much better to use Google's triangulation first, then access Skyhook's system for a better location and throw out APs that say they are 300 miles away. Reupload that data saying the AP doesn't exist where you are anymore and the database should improve itself over time.
Because of this, it's much better to use Google's triangulation first, then access Skyhook's system for a better location and throw out APs that say they are 300 miles away. Reupload that data saying the AP doesn't exist where you are anymore and the database should improve itself over time.
did you email to the general support address?
how do you know they updated it--did they respond to your email? or did your Locate Me function simply start working properly? Or...?
And how quickly did this happen? (the new software was released last week, right? and another poster in this thread said his friend had notified skyhook of a change, and was told it'd take several weeks to be done; i guess i'm surprised they consummated a fix for you so quickly)
In my area in northern California it works pretty good. When I am at home it gets me within about 50 feet and throughout my area it has been within a 1/2 mile or so every time I have checked, usually closer than 1/2 a mile, but sometimes it is a little off. It's not GPS, but for free on my iPhone I'm not gonna complain.
You want Steve to list all the third parties who receive part of payments you make. That one $20 payment, google, skyhooks to start, mail app might have a couple to say postfix or cyrus teams say. Stocks and Weather widget carry small Yahoo logos so they are getting some cash.
Could be fun but it would add a couple of pages to an iMac sales docket.
Yes it does. See http://skyhookwireless.com/howitworks/coverage.php
"Any access point that is either not in the database or was previously associated with a different geographic location is automatically identified and recorded to the new corresponding calculated location. In this manner, WPS automatically fixes and expands the reference network as it is being used."
Well, I don't think he needs to say EVERYTHING, but you saw the uproar that the forums were thrown into the moment Steve announced that the Touch upgrade would cost $20. Apple isn't stupid, either, they knew full well that we'd be upset (and vocal).
Steve could have thrown an extra line into his keynote, like "And this will be available for just $20. Part of that cost includes the licensing fee for the fantastic Skyhook wireless location system. We're really excited, we think customers will really enjoy using this..."
I only wish it worked a little better over here in Honolulu.
It hasn't worked for me, barely.
Only when I'm directly connected to a network.
It hasn't worked for me, barely.
Only when I'm directly connected to a network.
finding your lat and long
i got that to work. But here's an easier way: use Google Earth. I moved the cursor over my house and captured lat and long. (they matched almost precisely with the results of your method, which pinned a location several doors down the street).
(HOW TO FIND COORDINATES?)
I should have been more specific.in your browser's address bar (where you usually enter web page URL's) and hit enter. That'll open a javascript popup with a text field containing your latitude and longitude coordinates. To make sure that's correct run a google maps search for those coordinates without the parenthesis. I usually have to tweak the coordinates a little to get them spot on. YMMVCode:javascript:void(prompt('',gApplication.getMap().getCenter()));
i got that to work. But here's an easier way: use Google Earth. I moved the cursor over my house and captured lat and long. (they matched almost precisely with the results of your method, which pinned a location several doors down the street).
wow, that's a great feature!
now, I'm off to convince my dad that getting an iPhone would really help him stay organized...that is, so i can play with it
now, I'm off to convince my dad that getting an iPhone would really help him stay organized...that is, so i can play with it