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Yes, I agree with you, I was only wondering about my dreams :) . As I wrote, I hope the new MBP will be out soon, only thing that scares me it's that there's could be the 12" MacBook keyboard, that, in my own view, it's horrible to use (and see,BTW).

Right, sooner or later it will be that type of keyboard. Maybe something as on the new magic one, something in between. I heard that after some time you can get used to typing on that...

In my dreams, I see Macbooks with Siri, Touch ID, USB 3.1's and thinner design. The first can be done with software update probably, but the latter three, you just need to implement that into the design. They do not have to be that much thin but something around 10-15% would be amazing.

The real question for us is, how soon Apple is going to add those mentioned features. I think they are working on a Macbook Pro redesign but they have a couple problems. Intel delays and strong consumer demand for refreshed machines. So, I believe that they are going to come up with new MBP's as late as at WWDC with couple of new USB's and Skylake CPU's (kind of small redesign)... Maybe they are going to surprise us all even with thinner design and "Butterfly" keyboard which would be even more amazing.
 
Maybe it's just me, but I tend to leave a lot of windows/tabs open. And over time, my memory pressure creeps ever upward (into yellow, and eventually red).

Sounds to me like your problem is memory leaks in browsers (or browser plug-ins) and websites that download metric shedloads of ads.

Bottom line: if you don't close stuff when you're done with it, you'll eventually run out of RAM. Whatever the OS.
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LONG OVERDUE yet still staggered launch... WTF is going on?

Ans: because they're still waiting for Intel to release the correct processors: i.e. the ones with Iris Pro graphics. Note "announced" does not mean "released".
 
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Actually, no. I just now realized that Fusion 360 on OS X and ArchiCAD and SolidWorks on Windows 10 wouldn't really make my said MacBook happy if I downgraded. I am now even more anxious to upgrade my 15-inch mid-2012 MacBook Pro.
 
Are... are you sure? I'm just gonna crawl into a hole now. Kidding, I have absolutely no reason for ECC RAM, not even a MacBook Pro.

Actually, I have to retract my previous statement. Xeon CPUs may use either ECC or DDR4 RAM. Apple could go with either.


... they're still waiting for Intel to release the correct processors: i.e. the ones with Iris Pro graphics. Note "announced" does not mean "released".

Yep. I just read on Anandtech that Intel will not release Skylake CPUs with Iris Pro until later this year. This will prohibit Apple's Skylake upgrade to to the 15" RMBPs. This is the most likely reason for the delay in upgrades. The release of 14/16nm dGPUs by ATI/Nvidia at about the same time may just be coincidence but the trajectory for a 15" rMBP upgrade is the same--2Q/3Q 2016. All in all, it should be a very nice upgrade and my bet is still on a new form-factor to be announced at WWDC.
 
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Well without retina it is a no-buy given the stuff on offer from the competition at the same price or cheaper.

With retina, it's entirely too similar to the new Macbook or a 13" macbook pro.

I think you're mistaken. The niche it once filled is now filled by other machines, especially if apple update the design of the Macbook Pro as they are rumoured to be doing.

Personally, I couldn't care less about Retina. Can't tell a difference without using a magnifying glass, anyway.

And I don't see how the Air is too similar to the 13" MacBook Pro, which weighs over a half-pound MORE. (Not to mention, has worse battery life.) You do understand the market niche of the Air, right?
 
Personally, I couldn't care less about Retina. Can't tell a difference without using a magnifying glass, anyway.

Get your eyes checked, if you can't tell the difference, you're seriously blind.

The biggest difference is with text too, it is so much clearer and easier to read.

Never mind that the screen has much better viewing angles, colour reproduction, etc. If you "can't tell the difference" between retina and the Macbook air from 3-4 feet without assistance... seriously... see an optician.

And yes, the MBA is lighter than the 13" Pro.

It will be replaced by the Macbook, with a price reduction.
 
  • 12/14" Multiple processor options (low to very high), 2 USB-C, audio (MB)
  • 16" Maxed everything for the pro who only needs limited portability (MBP)
The more I think of it and the more replies I read, the more I think Apple could please most people with just these two options. Really it's several options, since the MacBook would be two sizes and ~3 processors, but it's two form-factors: MacBook and MacBook Pro. After all, "Air" no longer even makes sense since even the 11" weighs more than the current MacBook.
 
I need to upgrade from my 2010 Macbook Pro ASAP for work, and I'm not sure if I should wait for the next version or not.

If you need to update asap that should answer your question -- the current MBP are good machines. Since you can't wait until the fall get one.
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I hope the 15" MBPr is release before the end of May. Would like to upgrade my 2010 15" MBP before the end of our fiscal year.

You can, just get a 2015, they're good machines.
 
I have a late 2013 rMBP and even though I have no need for a new laptop, if they come out with a MBP line in the design of the macbook, I might have to buy one. I'll at least wait til the refurbished ones to showing up.
 
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Apple should move to ARM.

YOU move to ARM. I won't miss you. :p

That would be the dumbest move Apple could possibly make. It would isolate Apple once again to the realm of IRRELEVANCE (i.e. No Intel = No easy Windows porting and no Boot Camp or VMWare booting into the world STANDARD [whether one likes it or not] of Windows OS) just as in the PPC days, obliterate any remaining market share (still PATHETIC at only 7-11% depending on whom you ask) and along with the coming failure of the iPhone7 (in relative terms), send Apple even faster down its one-way ticket to total and utter oblivion. And unless Jesus himself comes to raise Steve Jobs from the dead, there will be NO ONE to save Apple's hide this time around (Cook is already doing a great job of killing Apple by sliding on iPhone sales instead of actual innovation and letting the Mac Pro die another slow death of NO UPDATES and getting rid of Scott Forestall who created the PERFECT iOS GUI and putting Jony Ive in charge of the GUI which more than just its cartoonish looks is far FAR more a PITA to use.

Just look at the revised Music interface to see what I mean (duplicated play buttons, sliding "art" screen so they can shove notifications to please PLEASE join Apple Music in your face. Moving the Artist/Album/Songs selector to part of the sliding list (where you can't select it at any time) JUST so they can put "Apple Music" (which I don't use and will NEVER use) where you want the damn Artist/Album button to be with NO WAY TO CHANGE IT TO SOMETHING USEFUL/FUNCTIONAL/WORTHWHILE!!!! And they say Windows Phone sucks? God, tell me that Android isn't so stupidly laid out as iOS8/9 and I'll switch for good (oh wait; I already bought an "irrelevant" Windows Phone because it was DIRT CHEAP and does the job for all anyone actually needs on a smart phone (email, browse, music, videos and phone).

Yeah, go ahead and move to ARM and see where it gets you. ALL current Mac software will stop working. NO ONE will bother to replace it this time because instead of moving towards sanity, you're moving AWAY from it, all to get CPUs that update (currently) faster and yet are still playing catch-up to Intel? Since when are CPUs on Macs not fast enough? Since when are they the limiting factor here??? We have the absolute fracking WORST GPUs in the Universe (and couldn't play many modern games anywhere near 4k, let alone 5K resolutions even if they were available and FORGET ABOUT VIRTUAL REALITY ALTOGETHER) and you are worried about the CPU. To do what? Run a web browser? Run Microsoft Office faster? How much power do you need for your average productivity software?

If Apple moves to ARM for OS X, Microsoft will gain about 60 MILLION new Windows 10 users almost overnight (i.e. the entire user base of OS X). Everyone talks about Linux, but no one actually uses it except no-life nerds and crazy people that think everyone should share everything for free and live off good will instead of cold hard cash (even though it won't pay the bills and won't put food on your table).

If Apple were smart, they'd start making Macs with high-powered GPUs and pushing for the next BIG THING which is obviously Virtual Reality. Anyone who has seen anything from a VR "Vacation from your couch" video to an adult film VR experience already KNOWS it's the future. Apple should be RACING towards this goal, not contemplating turning OS X into iOS Mark II. For now, the hardware to drive VR is going to need to be full sized desktop stuff, but you want the goggles wireless. So high-speed networking plus one high-powered GPU over-stuffed computer is what is needed. The CPU is secondary to the GPU for VR by FAR. It would also solve gaming for OS X at the same time for conventional games (current GPUs are absolute garbage).
 
Apple should move to ARM. Sooner or later. Intel is just so slow in rolling out their chips. Remember that when we read Skylake for late 2015? Not at all. I am running old 09 17 MBP which is extremely bulky and unpleasant to carry on, so MB 12 would be a joy. If Intel continues to do this then Kaby Lake MBP will roll out sometime in mid 2017...

I hope this never happens
YOU move to ARM. I won't miss you. :p

That would be the dumbest move Apple could possibly make. It would isolate Apple once again to the realm of IRRELEVANCE (i.e. No Intel = No easy Windows porting and no Boot Camp or VMWare booting into the world STANDARD [whether one likes it or not] of Windows OS) just as in the PPC days, obliterate any remaining market share (still PATHETIC at only 7-11% depending on whom you ask) and along with the coming failure of the iPhone7 (in relative terms), send Apple even faster down its one-way ticket to total and utter oblivion. And unless Jesus himself comes to raise Steve Jobs from the dead, there will be NO ONE to save Apple's hide this time around (Cook is already doing a great job of killing Apple by sliding on iPhone sales instead of actual innovation and letting the Mac Pro die another slow death of NO UPDATES and getting rid of Scott Forestall who created the PERFECT iOS GUI and putting Jony Ive in charge of the GUI which more than just its cartoonish looks is far FAR more a PITA to use.

Just look at the revised Music interface to see what I mean (duplicated play buttons, sliding "art" screen so they can shove notifications to please PLEASE join Apple Music in your face. Moving the Artist/Album/Songs selector to part of the sliding list (where you can't select it at any time) JUST so they can put "Apple Music" (which I don't use and will NEVER use) where you want the damn Artist/Album button to be with NO WAY TO CHANGE IT TO SOMETHING USEFUL/FUNCTIONAL/WORTHWHILE!!!! And they say Windows Phone sucks? God, tell me that Android isn't so stupidly laid out as iOS8/9 and I'll switch for good (oh wait; I already bought an "irrelevant" Windows Phone because it was DIRT CHEAP and does the job for all anyone actually needs on a smart phone (email, browse, music, videos and phone).

Yeah, go ahead and move to ARM and see where it gets you. ALL current Mac software will stop working. NO ONE will bother to replace it this time because instead of moving towards sanity, you're moving AWAY from it, all to get CPUs that update (currently) faster and yet are still playing catch-up to Intel? Since when are CPUs on Macs not fast enough? Since when are they the limiting factor here??? We have the absolute fracking WORST GPUs in the Universe (and couldn't play many modern games anywhere near 4k, let alone 5K resolutions even if they were available and FORGET ABOUT VIRTUAL REALITY ALTOGETHER) and you are worried about the CPU. To do what? Run a web browser? Run Microsoft Office faster? How much power do you need for your average productivity software?

If Apple moves to ARM for OS X, Microsoft will gain about 60 MILLION new Windows 10 users almost overnight (i.e. the entire user base of OS X). Everyone talks about Linux, but no one actually uses it except no-life nerds and crazy people that think everyone should share everything for free and live off good will instead of cold hard cash (even though it won't pay the bills and won't put food on your table).

If Apple were smart, they'd start making Macs with high-powered GPUs and pushing for the next BIG THING which is obviously Virtual Reality. Anyone who has seen anything from a VR "Vacation from your couch" video to an adult film VR experience already KNOWS it's the future. Apple should be RACING towards this goal, not contemplating turning OS X into iOS Mark II. For now, the hardware to drive VR is going to need to be full sized desktop stuff, but you want the goggles wireless. So high-speed networking plus one high-powered GPU over-stuffed computer is what is needed. The CPU is secondary to the GPU for VR by FAR. It would also solve gaming for OS X at the same time for conventional games (current GPUs are absolute garbage).

A strong worded post, but I do agree with much of what you said. I also got a few laughs. Best post I've seen in a while :)

Emphasis in post added by me.
 
Like most others in here, I really hope they don't wait so long for the 15" rMBP update. I'm on the 12" MB now and I just can't deal with it anymore lol - especially after going from 18" to 15" and now this. I liked how compact it was, but I'd much rather the Pro back. I'm not an overly heavy user, but this thing can't even handle things like Candy Crush. Also if they're going to keep this new keyboard design, they really need to tweak/fix it. It's NOT nice to use.

Hoping they all gold, also.
 
Some how i feel like the 15" users are stiff out of luck.

Remember when everyone wanted that new retina Air, and they ended up with an even lesser powered machine?

Something tells me thats whats coming next.

The MBP's may simply get Skylake, with the major update being a 14" MB alongside the 12, and the 13" nrMBP dropped.
 
New mac mini please, quad-core i7 option, discreet gpu option like the good 'ol days. There's a reason why the 2012 refurbs got snapped up the second they hit the store. I hope Apple was watching...
 
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Still going strong on a white unibody MacBook mid-2010:cool:. Hoping for new MacBooks at the March keynote


2006 white MB here, actually still works for just internet and basic apps and music. But waiting for the 15 inch to be released. I am not buying the current 15, it's basically 3 year old tech at this point.

Fingers crossed for a Q1 release of the 15!!
 
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Some how i feel like the 15" users are stiff out of luck.

Remember when everyone wanted that new retina Air, and they ended up with an even lesser powered machine?

Something tells me thats whats coming next.

The MBP's may simply get Skylake, with the major update being a 14" MB alongside the 12, and the 13" nrMBP dropped.

They'll throw in a new processor and maybe a slight bit thinner and call it a day. All these over paid engineers you would think they'd come out with earth shaking designs / improvements.

Sadly Steve is gone and Apple is sinking
 
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If my MBP really breaks down, I'll just buy the current one. Otherwise I'll try to survive with my 2010 MBP until after summer. GfxCardStatus does help a bit here.

I'm in the same situation.. my 2010 MBP crashes once or twice per day without GfxCardStatus forcing integrated mode. I hate not being to use an external monitor without crashes.

I hope the Skylake MBP comes along soon and doesn't take away the expansion that is left. I can hope, at least. I'm leaning towards an option that doesn't have a discrete GPU because my last two 15" MBP's have been duds (2007 and 2010)
 
I am also rocking a 2010 15" mbp. It has been through quite a lot and i am honestly surprised it still runs. That being said, I am really looking forward to the skylake rmbp. In an ideal world, i would love for it to get a redesign the takes some design cues from the rmb. my wishlist would include the following:
-metal hinge
-thinner bezels
-usb type c/ thunderbolt3
- individually led lit keys
- spacegrey exterior
-updated gpu
-updated design
 
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Like most others in here, I really hope they don't wait so long for the 15" rMBP update. I'm on the 12" MB now and I just can't deal with it anymore lol - especially after going from 18" to 15" and now this. I liked how compact it was, but I'd much rather the Pro back. I'm not an overly heavy user, but this thing can't even handle things like Candy Crush. Also if they're going to keep this new keyboard design, they really need to tweak/fix it. It's NOT nice to use.

Hoping they all gold, also.

You must be playing a limited edition, console-level version of Candy Crush.

I must say I have no idea what folks who make these kinds of comments are talking about. I use an 8GB/512GB/1.2 model. Here is my daily workload and concurrently open apps:

- Two external monitors plus laptop display (1 monitor over MultiPort hdmi adapter - 1 monitor over USB3 to hdmi external video card plugged into USB hub, plugged into USB A port on MultiPort adapter)
- 5+ Safari tabs
- MATLAB
- Word
- PowerPoint
- Excel
- Keynote
- iMovie
- iTunes
- Messages
- Mail
- Photoshop

And this thing performs impressively well. That is incredible. Obviously under this workload it's not as responsive as a MacBook Pro or iMac, but to say it can't play Candy Crush is absurd.

I came from a 15" rMBP to a 13" rMBP to this. I very much enjoy the keyboard.
 
I'm surprised by the number of people that believe theres still going to be something called the MacBook Air.


The new rMB is the MacBook Air. It's essentially thinking hey, they're going to make an iPad and an iPad Air every year.
 
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