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This has to be the most infuriating wait ever. And no word on Mac Mini/iMac/Mac Pro line up yet...
I hope that it's for the better. When is Skylake's successor expected to be announced/released?

Still rocking the late 2010 MBP (15") and hoping to get either a new MBP or desktop soon, but may have to wait even longer. Are the current Skylake iMacs worth getting or better to wait until new refreshed models (whenever that may be)?
 
Great, I can start figuring out when to sell my current 15" 2014 model, what to buy in the meantime and if I'll be able to wait on the new model from there.

Maybe selling before WWDC, buying a second-hand iMac, waiting until august on the new model (could be delayed until november though).

It's all about the value, 'bout the value, much trouble.

I got to be honest with you, I bought the current 15 inch top spec MacBook Pro. I note you have one not far behind, at all. What could you honestly need to upgrade for.
 
I got to be honest with you, I bought the current 15 inch top spec MacBook Pro. I note you have one not far behind, at all. What could you honestly need to upgrade for.

I was even more confused by him wanting to sell what is effectively still a new machine, then wanting to by a stop-gap machine (why?!!) & then buying a 2016 Mac. How is that all about the value? Baffled.
 
I got to be honest with you, I bought the current 15 inch top spec MacBook Pro. I note you have one not far behind, at all. What could you honestly need to upgrade for.
Because some people just have to have the latest and greatest technology

Was at the local apple store last night and people were talking about the sky lake processor and how much better and faster more battery life. Some people just have to have the latest and greatest in there possession .
 
I'm still hanging in with Snow Leopard on a 2007 15" MBP and do not look forward to being forced into the annoyingly bright blue folders of feature bloated El Capitan.

Then you'll never be buying a Mac again, basically.
 
I'm currently with out a Mac and keep looking for a great deal even in refurbished models which has been getting hit hard lately on the 13 and 15" MBP's , as for the 15" finally being updated with a newer processor great as for the 13" MBP's Ok. Mite go with a 13" and sit back and watch and wait for all the good and bad reviews to come in . There's going to be deals popping up. Gonna have to move the old/previous models out and the newer ones in.
 
I'm going to see if my 2010 13"MBP can make it to 2020! Its still going strong!
Ten years would kinda stretch it but I'm still typing this on a 15" late-2008 MBP and it is still going strong. I had to replace the harddrive for an SSD and up memory to 8GB to get it this far. Nonetheless it's an impressive feat for a laptop to last that long in my usage scenario's (7 days a week 12 hours of usage a day). The battery only lasts for an hour but still, the machine runs. Now I am desperately waiting for the Skylake 15" MBP so I do hope Apple plans new 15" rMBP's *before the Summer rather than after it.
 
Being a fan of the MBA, I continue to struggle with the need to "upgrade" my 13' to a MB that is essentially a iPad with a keyboard.

At least my machine is currently powerful enough to run my business and VM products. The MB, not so in its current iteration.

Should they "merge" the MBA line, or kill it, that new MB better get a monumental upgrade to at least align it with what the MBA offers. And... I hate the 12" screen, too small for actual work even though I run alongside an ACD.
 
Keep waiting, always keep waiting as the newer model is just around the corner. When you think you want to buy, wait longer, just keep waiting.

Some updates are minor like iPad 3-> iPad 4 .

Some updates are worth waiting for like iPad 4 -> iPad Air

Macbooks have been looking the same for a long time, maybe a re-design is happening in the few months coming.
 
My body and wallet are ready for the 15-inch MacBook Pro with mobile Xeon chips. All I could really ask for besides those two is a plethora of Thunderbolt 3 ports, a P3 display, faster SSD, ECC RAM for those Xeon CPUs, and stronger AMD GPUs because just one in an iMac can drive two 5k displays, a recent one should be able to do those two 5k displays and the built in 2880 x 1800 Retina Display. I'm over wanting a built-in 4k display and would be okay if it wasn't as thin as a MacBook but would still very much not be in opposition if it were (granted it still had at the very least the same all day battery life).

Intel's mobile Xeon CPUs do not use ECC RAM.
 
Then you'll never be buying a Mac again, basically.

No, I will buy a Skylake 15" and get used to the new interface. I'm not looking forward to it but I've been using Macs since 1990 and had to adapt to initially unpleasant changes many times.
 
Sweet, I'll be a retired old man by the time this damn MacBook Pro comes out.

BRB getting a Dell XPS now..
 
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MacBook Pro in 3 different colors, with some low level skylake quad from intel and a maximum of 16 gb ram and usb-c. A i forgot it will be thinner and fanless!
There are no low-power quad-cores and that's why the new MacBook Pros won't be fanless. Instead of USB-C they will have TB3/USB-C combination ports.
 
Not a chance. The Air isn't going anywhere.

Well without retina it is a no-buy given the stuff on offer from the competition at the same price or cheaper.

With retina, it's entirely too similar to the new Macbook or a 13" macbook pro.

I think you're mistaken. The niche it once filled is now filled by other machines, especially if apple update the design of the Macbook Pro as they are rumoured to be doing.
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Yes there are still software applications out there that only runs in a windows environment for which this would not be an option. Fortunately that is not as big a problem as before. My father, an architect, never wanted to get off windows because AutoCad had not ported over. They have now to OSX, but not fully to iOS. In my work everything is on the web, so platform is not as big a deal, unless you find one of those flash based websites. MS-office already works on iOS, and there are sufficient alternatives to Visio and Project that I really do not have any issues. But I recognize that there are specific applications that still require Windows. I am lucky not to need any of them :)


I said "x86" not "windows".

Running ARM would require all current OS X software to be recompiled and ideally certain parts perhaps re-coded to be optimised for the Ax CPUs.

Or you'll end up having to do something like Rosetta, which will totally kill any battery life advantage (if any, intel has been making great strides there in recent years) you may see from the Ax CPU.
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This guy gets it. I travel a lot and I can never unfold my 15" with the seat tray. The new 13" MBP should be more than powerful enough to do what the 15 MBP does (even without a dGPU). The Skylake chips have 40% faster Iris Pro integrated graphics, closing the gap.

Needless to say, I've sold my 15" MBP and will be buying the new 13" Skylake MBP for a perfect balance of power vs. mobility.

This was exactly my reasoning behind going for the broadwell 13" this time around.

in 99% of what I do, the CPU and GPU are plenty strong enough. the battery life, weight and form factor are far, far more useful for using as a portable machine.
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I didn't see anyone make this point for the 15" rMBP...

In the last refresh, Apple switched the dedicated GPU option to AMD over Nvidia. I wonder if the staggered launch/holdup isn't on the CPU, but the GPU. Perhaps Apple wants to put the new Polaris architecture in for the dedicated GPU.

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/feature/...is-release-date-price-specifications-3634118/

I think apple's switching GPUs may have settled on AMD for a while due to the way their GPUs work. They're a lot better than Nvidia at GPU compute, which is what I think Apple are trying to really push with OpenCL.

Going Nvidia and letting CUDA run on their gear again would undermine the push for OpenCL.

So until CUDA is well and truly dead, i think you'll see Apple stick with AMD.

A lot of the decisions that Apple make are long-term strategic (pushing a technology or standard) rather than purely financially motivated or whatever.
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If Apple really wants to stay in the game, expect to see quad core processors in the Skylake rMBP 13, since that's what you get with the 13 inch Microsoft Surface Book.


Maybe, maybe not.

In that form factor you are thermally constrained. Quad core CPU running at low clock speed due to throttling, or dual core that is more free to clock higher. Dual core will be cheaper and run single threads faster; and under thermal constraint probably be just as fast.

Speculation... but more cores is not automatically better. My Surface Pro 3 throttles like hell and that's only a dual core.
 
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Call me paranoid maybe, but for me it's about security. Charging the thing is the only thing you HAVE to do in order to use it. I don't want the only non-optional thing I have to plug into my computer to have firmware-level access to the hardware. You can put some pretty nasty stuff on those public USB charging stations, or those third-party USB power adapters. I know it sounds silly, but where credit card skimmers were a problem in the 90's and 2000's, compromised USB chargers will be hidden in plain sight security issue in near future. iOS has decent protection against this (though not perfect), but Mac hardware so far has nothing to protect against this.

You make a point, but one of the advantages of the macbook is it can be easily charged with a battery pack over usb c. If I had one, I'd get a battery pack for it and call it a day.
 
The Mac Mini gets a refresh with the new Mac Pro every 2 years. These usually get announced in October. Though rumors are that the Mac Mini was suppose to get a redesign but wasn't ready in 2014.

You're lucky if you get a new Mac Pro every 2 years. It's been more than 2 years since the 2013 Mac Pro came out, and even though new Xeons have been available for almost a year, there's no sign Apple will use them in an update.

From what I've seen, Mac Mini refreshes are very sporadic. Sometimes every year, sometimes every few years. Before the 2014 update, a lot of rumors were swirling that Apple was just going to discontinue the model.

I love Macs, but the hardware has gotten pretty "meh" over the past few years. The retina MacBook is sexy, but barely outperforms a 3 year old MacBook Air. Meh.
 
Some people still actually use them, myself included.

So do i as well, but given the option to trade it for another USB-C or thunderbolt port i'd dump it in a heartbeat.
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I love Macs, but the hardware has gotten pretty "meh" over the past few years. The retina MacBook is sexy, but barely outperforms a 3 year old MacBook Air. Meh.

To be honest, for all the hoopla surrounding new CPUs as of late the only real improvements have been in battery life, onboard GPU and in the Xeon space, increased core count. Actual speed improvements since 2011-2012 have been minimal unless you're specifically using the new CPU instructions in software and for most people CPUs in portables have been fast enough since 2006 or so (GPU is where its at these days for a lot of stuff, sure there is a niche that need the fastest CPU they can get, but its a small niche).

The point of the new macbook is smaller size, retina screen whilst maintaining the performance of the air which is "plenty" for most.

As far as the Mac Pro goes, maybe it isn't thermally certified by apple for increased core count.

As far as the MacBooks go - I can see why Apple has held off with the 15" given the broadwell quad core debacle, and now the imminent release of new GPUs by both AMD and Nvidia.
 
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No rumors of a 14"? :(
I wish Apple would move to a 12"—14"—16" lineup, to me those are the perfect sizes. 13" is a bit small for today's interfaces and 16:10 screen ratios and 15" is still a bit small for pro work in some applications, many of which can have dozens of accessory palettes. By eliminating or reducing the bezel, they could get that extra inch without increasing size much.
 
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It's high time for a significant laptop refresh.

My options right now are:
  • 11/13" Limited RAM, non-retina screen, a bit heavy (by today's standards) (MBA)
  • 12" Limited processor, limited RAM, one port(!), great form factor (MB)
  • 13/15" Maxed everything, maxed price, obsolete ports (by Apple's standards), a bit heavy (MBP)
It's about time Apple simplifies to:
  • 11/13" Limited (high-efficiency) processor, feather weight, 2 USB-C ports (MBA)
  • 13" Top-of-the-line processor, very lightweight, 16+GB RAM, 2 USB-C, thunderbolt, USB-B, audio (MB)
  • 15/17" Maxed everything for the pro who only needs limited portability (MBP)
My guess is that a bunch of people would buy the MBA for the low price; a ton would buy the MB for the perfection, and some would buy the Pro for the maximization.

Alternately, the most simplistically Apple thing to do would be just:
  • 12/14" Multiple processor options (low to very high), 2 USB-C, audio (MB)
  • 16" Maxed everything for the pro who only needs limited portability (MBP)
 
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