Huh. I always thought Jony Ive was a pretty reasonable guy, from all accounts I've read. Wonder if Christie got egotistic like Forstall did...
Sounds like it was the other way around..
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'Slide to Unlock' Engineer Greg Christie to Depart Apple After Fallout with Jony Ive [Updated]
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Sounds like it was the other way around..
LOL That's it.
"With Ive taking full control over software design with Christie's departure, the integration between Apple's software and hardware may improve even further."
HAHA, YOU WISH.
It's over. I said it before, and I'll say it again, Ive knows NOTHING about software design. A man who designs hardware is not automatically good with software, period. I don't care how many fanboys of Sir Lifts-a-Lot say otherwise.
iOS never needed this style overhaul, just refinements and new features. Same for OSX, but it's too late. Unless they get a new UI/graphic designer and do a 180 quickly.
"With Ive taking full control over software design with Christie's departure, the integration between Apple's software and hardware may improve even further."
HAHA, YOU WISH.
It's over. I said it before, and I'll say it again, Ive knows NOTHING about software design. A man who designs hardware is not automatically good with software, period. I don't care how many fanboys of Sir Lifts-a-Lot say otherwise.
iOS never needed this style overhaul, just refinements and new features. Same for OSX, but it's too late. Unless they get a new UI/graphic designer and do a 180 quickly.
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Maybe, but did you see how "thick" those tablets were on that show? Apparently "thicker" not "thinner" is the future too. Maybe battery issues still exist in the 23rd century- dilithium crystals or not?
Wrong. All of Apple's senior executives have the authority to fire anyone in their department without talking to Tim. So, considering Christie was working for Ive, he could have very well fired him without a discussion with Tim.
Christie's been working on Apple's UI since 1996?
Maybe he's the guy responsible for so many of the horrible looks, like brushed metal and pinstripes, and weird stuff like "drawers".
Maybe he's the guy responsible for so many of the horrible looks, like brushed metal and pinstripes, and weird stuff like "drawers".
Yeah, it would be nice to know how much of Christie is iOS 7's design.
Maybe Ive grew tired of being blamed for it's look. Maybe Christie wanted to move in a different direction.
No one knows for sure but it's no surprise his worshipers and haters are both punching it out here on the thread
I wonder if anyone considers that the software design team that Ive puts together might know SOMETHING about software design.
Nah. He probably just does it all himself. Plus why would any good sofware designer want to work at Apple?
/sarcasm
Ive's big contributions to iOS:
-removing the skeuomorphic file icon for the contacts app in favor of the outline of a head--genius.
-pastels
-new unnecessary animations to make sure apps take longer to load
-more crashes
-changing the photos icon from a flower to something else no one can id
-changing search from the only screen to the left in favor of an annoying drop down gesture that frequently pulls down notifications instead
-harder to read skinny fonts
-more white and less contrast
I like the swipe-up menu and auto updates, but the rest of iOS 7 is pretty retrograde crap compared to the versions pre-Ive
Oh, and I like /s the 7.1 update making the phone function more difficult to hang up...so, Microsoft, make something worse when you update
-removing the skeuomorphic file icon for the contacts app in favor of the outline of a head--genius.
-pastels
-new unnecessary animations to make sure apps take longer to load
-more crashes
-changing the photos icon from a flower to something else no one can id
-changing search from the only screen to the left in favor of an annoying drop down gesture that frequently pulls down notifications instead
-harder to read skinny fonts
-more white and less contrast
I like the swipe-up menu and auto updates, but the rest of iOS 7 is pretty retrograde crap compared to the versions pre-Ive
Oh, and I like /s the 7.1 update making the phone function more difficult to hang up...so, Microsoft, make something worse when you update
I hope all this is not having a negative impact. Having lived in the UK for 15 years, I know that Brits are not good at negotiating, compromising, and fitting in.
I hope Ive is not pissing all the good people off. I know he is a genius in design, and hope deep inside that he can do the human stuff too.
I hope Ive is not pissing all the good people off. I know he is a genius in design, and hope deep inside that he can do the human stuff too.
Is Ive a samsung/google... plant , forcing the people who built Apple's software design to leave one after an other ?
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how long will apple's fans have to bear the IveOS
, forcing the people who built Apple's software design to leave one after an other ?----------
how long will apple's fans have to bear the IveOS
Given the look on Ive's face in every promo picture you see of him, you'd think it would cause him physical harm to smile.
While I can understand a lot of the resentment towards "Flat" Design, iOS 7 also reflects a complete change in design philosophy, which many apps haven't adopted. iOS 7 was a change in looks and functionality. "Deference, Clarity, and Depth" are all developer focused, non-visual, different UX paradigms in iOS 7. If those are the things that Jony has had a hand in, I say he doesn't deserve quite the bashing he gets in response to iOS7. I think he has a good eye for design, but I don't think he is infallible. But, as others have said, Industrial Design, UI design, and UX design are all different.
I could imagine working for Ive is almost as easy as working for Jobs
lol im trying to imagine walking over to him being like "does that icon design look good to you?" Ive going like: What were you thinking. You MAAAD. I duuuunt FANCY that at oool". scary
reminds me of Pixar movies somehow lol
My two favorite WTF critiques of iOS 7. Too many pastels, when there isn't any pastels in the UI aside from a few parts of a few icons. And "less contrast" in a design that moved to predominantly black on white.
Do people just make up their own meaning of terms in order to make their complaints sound worse than they are?
yea, this sucks. ive is a genius when it comes to hardware design. he is not a genius when it comes to software design. someone over there needs to understand that....
Too bad. Slide to unlock was always one of my favorite features of iOS, all the way from the original iPhone.
You do realize with the search you can just pull down from anywhere on the screen and don't have to do it from the top of the screen near the notification drawer, right? Plus what it offers you instead is a way to search from "any" page as opposed to having the phone scroll all the way back to the first page, which I found more annoying.
does annoying 80's teen mall girl color palate work?
and the contrast is in things like buttons...which often now just eliminated now and can be reintroduced as an ugly approximation of what they were pre iOS through accessibility and contrast settings...
Hmm. Sounds like a failure for Apple. They should be able to resolve these problems better. If he clashed with Ive, I would actually not be surprised if he was pushing for a more exciting redesign than what we got. I still think there are many serious flaws with iOS 7; among others contrast issues with icon texts and other usability problems, as well as a needless change to the Shift button icon now most recently.