I like the design of iOS 7. It's cleaner , sharper, and doesn't waste space on stitching or the look of torn paper edges. Ive was given control of the OS and he should exert it. He shouldn't be wasting time on little people with hurt feelings. Everyone should be on the same page so they can focus on new features.
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'Slide to Unlock' Engineer Greg Christie to Depart Apple After Fallout with Jony Ive [Updated]
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Yep realize that. But having a swipe down gesture where you already have a swipe down gesture zone at the top is not better functionality...especially on a small screen.
Huh. I always thought Jony Ive was a pretty reasonable guy, from all accounts I've read. Wonder if Christie got egotistic like Forstall did...
My take is that Ive has taken the design vision of Steve Jobs and is almost complete purging legacy NeXT people from the core team. If the bar talk is correct, Steve viewed his NeXT years as that of an artistic retreat creating a lot of things that, while were not market successful, was the precipice of very successful products (iMac, iPod, iPhone, iPad, etc.)
With that precipice comes the legacy of old habits that do not work in the market place when you "move to from the Village to lower Manhattan" as one New York attorney loves describing artists that cash in. To continue on, this old inner circle becomes less frequent associates and you only see them during life milestone events (e.g. birthdays, weddings, funerals, reunions, holidays, etc.) and keep them out of your day-to-day, money making life.
Eventually you stop showing up at the milestone events and find another crowd as you climb the social ladder while your former peers are content where they are.
Apple is destroying the fantastic Mac interface with the awkward iOS interface. No labels, no scrollbars, no arrows on scroll bars, etc. Not to mention the hard to read fonts on iOS and the almost invisible slide to unlock. Functionality should be ABOVE the look or plain design, and not the other way round.
I still get lost in the icons. I find it hard to distinguish between the apps now. It used to be so fast and easy to spot the calendar app or the contacts, etc.
They all bleed into each other now. So frustrating. Sadly, I find iOS 6 look far superior. Still find it annoying to have to swipe up from the bottom to adjust brightness. My case protects the edge of the device. Not to mention the screen dims when the brightness control comes up, so you can't even figure out what brightness you are setting the device to. There are a lot of unfriendly user issues in iOS 7. iOS 6 seemed to function far more simply.
What's so "fantastic" about arrows on scroll bars?
You having trouble figuring out what to do to unlock?
i thought i was "trippin" just taking these
my favorite is still yellow font on white background, BRILLIANT IDEA 
Exactly.
Flat just seems lazy to me. A step backwards, if you will.
The Pure camera app was recently updated to iOS7 style... and "a new icon" was one of the updated features.
Really? This is an improvement?
Flat is no fun at all...
Interesting. When Steve returned and met Ive he identified he was talented but frustrated because he felt he did not have a voice and was ready to leave the company. Is Ive now doing the same thing and not allowing talent to florish under his watch.
Is this the beginning or the beginning of the end.
Is this the beginning or the beginning of the end.
Unfortunately, hardware is not software. While the design process may be the same for both, designing software/UI is a totally different animal. A sleek pice of hardware is nice. A sleek piece of software is boring and has no personality, which is about where iOS7 is.
However polarized this issue may be, one thing I keep coming back to is that Ive was never a software designer. Why are some of the top software designers leaving now that Ive has taken over? That is worrisome to me. There are good and bad changes in iOS 7, and neither all the good nor bad can be blamed on Jony Ive. But again, Ive never was a software designer.
I'm not an iOS 7 hater, but I'm not quite a lover of it either. I'm one who wonders why we have to have so many new accessibility features to compensate for areas of the OS that shouldn't really need accessibility features when you think about it. Things like that make me wonder about the benefit of having an industrial design guy calling the shots in regards to the software.
I'm not an iOS 7 hater, but I'm not quite a lover of it either. I'm one who wonders why we have to have so many new accessibility features to compensate for areas of the OS that shouldn't really need accessibility features when you think about it. Things like that make me wonder about the benefit of having an industrial design guy calling the shots in regards to the software.
Indeed. It's been noted that Christie was a supporter of textured elements and was close with Forstall. If Christie were still in charge we'd still have leather, torn paper, that awful Podcasts app.
And the strange thing is that flat design crowd says they're the ones concerned with utility and practicality...meanwhile they give us parallax wallpaper effects.
You can make up whatever terms you'd like. Doesn't make them accurate.
There is no significant difference in contrast between the old buttons and new buttons except for for Notes. Blue on white instead of white on blue for the most part.
Again, it's simply a question of personal preference. Some people try to push the change as some sort of objectively bad decision when its not.
What's it matter, anyway?
The product roadmap for user interface appears to be leading to no graphic user interface.
Mr. Christie's "Slide to Unlock" achievement is being deprecated by the hardware of Touch ID. Big Data + Predictive Analytics + Voice controlled services (i.e. Siri) promise to eliminate the need for flicking and clicking through yesterday's Minority Report sexiness.
Flat vs. Skeuomorphism aside - Perhaps Mr. Christie wasn't able to let go of Photoshop, altogether, and join that vision of the future?
The product roadmap for user interface appears to be leading to no graphic user interface.
Mr. Christie's "Slide to Unlock" achievement is being deprecated by the hardware of Touch ID. Big Data + Predictive Analytics + Voice controlled services (i.e. Siri) promise to eliminate the need for flicking and clicking through yesterday's Minority Report sexiness.
Flat vs. Skeuomorphism aside - Perhaps Mr. Christie wasn't able to let go of Photoshop, altogether, and join that vision of the future?
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Huh. I always thought Jony Ive was a pretty reasonable guy, from all accounts I've read. Wonder if Christie got egotistic like Forstall did...
Scott was right and Christie knows what he's doing. It's Johnny Five there that obviously doesn't get the needs of actual humans based on the horrific "override" disaster that is iOS7. Christie designed the original iPhone interface. Which is better? I think it's obvious to most of us that aren't into Crayons and Wireframe models. It's #5 that should be departing Apple, IMO. iTunes is worse (organization sucks since redesign; movie icons are still too big with no Cover Flow mode to compensate (preferred movie mode listing, IMO). iOS is worse (so much slower that even one model back in the iPod Touch got left behind and therefore now faces software oblivion for many apps); it's much guadier looking (crayola wireframes and kiddy looking icons) and still can't split multitask on an iPad like Android can; their fingerprint sensor degraded in record time (requiring an update to get it to work a bit longer), etc.
Mavericks is worse except for the multi-monitor thing and OpenGL 4.0 update (still two years plus behind) and even the multi-monitor features could still be improved with dual-docks and better side-dock support. It seems like Apple is just putting out crap and more crap and more of the same. Let's eliminate optical drives and all ports but USB and Thunderbolt, make things even thinner (making the Macbook Air kind of moot at this stage, IMO since the new Macbooks are nearly as thin/small) and put on a screwed up operating system that runs slower and *STILL* cannot get my new mail from GMail when I click on the new mail button in 10.9.2 despite TWO updates that promised to have fixed the problem and just don't. (I've got back to using Thunderbird). Apple had better start getting its stuff together or it will find itself on a downward spiral. People don't see it in the quarterly reports yet, but it's coming if they don't start improving things rather than constantly screwing them up (Maps, Gmail, Hard drive sleep, the Safari hack bug, etc.)
Then there's the GPU debacle.... Not only did the 8600M GT cause them problems, but now the same type of problem is showing up on the models that came after it for 2009, 2010 and possibly later. We're paying a large premium for Macs over regular PC notebooks. They shouldn't have all these major flaws in them, but they do and it seems like it's increasing year by year. They need better quality control and testing. If they need to hire more people to do it then they should do so. It seems like they've been stretched thin ever since the iPhone first came out. The #1 Corporation in all the world with over 100 BILLION in petty cash should not be trying to save a buck by giving teams double duty still.
Yes it is. Because its consistent with the rest of the entire OS. Search is hidden at the top in every application, where you pull the list down to reveal the search bar. Putting spotlight above the icons reinforces that and makes the entire OS search features consistent throughout.
Big improvement. And I doubt many people are accidentally activating notification center to get to it. Just like they aren't when they want to search in Mail.
Gee, people ...
one guy leaves because he doesn't like his work and/or his boss anymore and we have to rehash flat versus skeuomorphic? We know nothing about the conflict, who took what side, who's right and who's wrong ... Stop assigning blame. This is not a celebrity divorce.
one guy leaves because he doesn't like his work and/or his boss anymore and we have to rehash flat versus skeuomorphic? We know nothing about the conflict, who took what side, who's right and who's wrong ... Stop assigning blame. This is not a celebrity divorce.
Okay, then use whatever term you call the new color palate...or leave it unnamed even. There is most definitely a color palate that's distinct to iOS and it blows (and that's imho, not claiming any objective reality).
