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Sling Media Denies Collaboration With AT&T on 3G Streaming

I don't see any "bad" on Slings part for speaking the truth.

Why allow another company to make up lies about you! AT&T did not have to make up that lie.

What is wrong with honesty in this situation? AT&T can't pull/deny the app now that they allowed 3G streaming. If they did, Sling can take them to court.
 
So...Sling Media is evil evil evil because they simply explained the facts? They were supposed to lie and ass-kiss just because AT&T lied?

You people are weird.
 
The key for us is Sling Media was willing to work with us to revise the app to make it more bandwidth sensitive...
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We didn't change anything
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Strictly speaking, those two statements aren't contradictory. Maybe Sling Media was willing to work with AT&T but got approved without doing so.

However, the rest of their statements show that AT&T was giving false information:
They made important changes...
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We didn't change anything
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VenusianSky said:
I don't get it either. I was considering purchasing a Slingbox because AT&T's annoucement, but now Sling just sounds like a bunch of arrogant douchebags.
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The original statement that got pulled was trying to imply that the hold up was because Sling was updating the application to work with AT&T's "standards". If I am Sling I have to call BS on this if it isn't true. No way should Sling take the fall because AT&T is incompetent.
 
Golfhog44 said:
Why would Slingmedia even come out and say this? AT&T approving this will make Sling a ton of money but instead of just agreeing with them they try to make AT&T look bad and possibly piss them off. This is typical of the way Sling is run as a company. From top to bottom it is one of the worst. Simple fact is that they have the best product and that is why people continue to use them, because with the way they are run overall, they are a terrible company and make horrible decisions.
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For the posters who can't understand why sling would come out and refute what ATT said, think. Another company says that your company modified an an app when in fact (according to Sling) they did not. Are you going to sit there and let that fly? Look at yesterdays ATT/Sling post, people were concerned about the qualiity of the video with the so called AT&T modified version. If you were sling wouldn't you want the public to know your app was not dumbed down?
 
wheatie said:
- I don't think Verizon is as willing to play ball with Apple and I don't think Steve wants to build a CDMA phone just for one country.
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Sure they'd build a model for the US market only... they built a special one for China, didn't they? And they stand to gain plenty of customers in the US if it were to go to Verizon. I think that Verizon wasn't interested in the iPhone 3 years ago due to their controlling nature, but that has changed with the new Android devices on their network. If anything, the iPhone offers them more control than the Droid does.
 
Golfhog44 said:
make AT&T look bad and possibly piss them off.
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oh NO! piss off ATT! what will they DO?!?!?!?

now ATT will throw a hissy fit and take 3G support BACK, right?

c'mon man, grow a pair... ATT spewed a bunch of bull, and sling called them on it. how is that wrong?

If i worked hard on something, and ATT starts spouting about how much they helped me with it... i'd bitch about it too.

ATT lied, Sling calls them liars. that's real life, yo.
 
sinsin07 said:
For the posters who can't understand why sling would come out and refute what ATT said, think. Another company says that your company modified an an app when in fact (according to Sling) they did not. Are you going to sit there and let that fly? Look at yesterdays ATT/Sling post, people were concerned about the qualiity of the video with the so called AT&T modified version. If you were sling wouldn't you want the public to know your app was not dumbed down?
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Plus, the implication is that Sling was coding sloppy, thus making the app more bandwidth intensive than it needed to be. This is AT&T's issue, not Sling's.
 
AT&T pretty much gave Sling what they wanted by allowing 3G and making their app much more appealing. Sling could have a little more tact and let AT&T say what they want without contradicting them for no reason.
 
I really don't understand everyone defending AT&T on this. If nothing has change in how the app handles bandwidth, then something must have changed at AT&T for this to now have been approved (even though AT&T isn't suppose to be making these decisions). How can any of you approve of diverting blame to the developers because they weren't ready or willing to give up enough bandwidth for such apps. It would be one thing is they had a well documented standards on how apps should handle bandwidth, but they don't and developers don't have an open line of communication with AT&T on this.
 
I repeat from yesterdays new bit about sling/AT&T. You jb'd 3g using slingers, back up your sling app. At this point we have no idea who's tellinng the truth.
 
TMar said:
I really don't understand everyone defending AT&T on this. If nothing has change in how the app handles bandwidth, then something must have changed at AT&T for this to now have been approved (even though AT&T isn't suppose to be making these decisions). How can any of you approve of diverting blame to the developers because they weren't ready or willing to give up enough bandwidth for such apps. It would be one thing is they had a well documented standards on how apps should handle bandwidth, but they don't and developers don't have an open line of communication with AT&T on this.
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Don't worry you don't need to understand the ATT defenders, you understand reality. Based on these comments by AT&T defenders, they expect a company to sit back and say they did something when they didn't.
 
SFStateStudent said:
Slingbox are a bunch of boneheads. They've passed on the only opportunity to gain Apple iPhone customers. Slingbox is just TOOO expensive anyway...:eek:

Hopefully, we'll NEVER see slingbox anywhere near the iPhone....
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What opportunity have they passed on? AT&T has eased restrictions on VOIP and very streaming not by working with developers, but increasing capacity. It's a slap in the face to developers for them to take credit on "collaborating" on a app if they had no part in it. Even if they told them it had to stream at no higher then a set speed, that's hardly collaborating. If they built their app to automatically adjust to the available bandwidth all along, and now AT&T wants to take credit for it?

Sling is toooo expensive? Compared to Mac's? Really?
 
AT&T is just trying to take credit for something they had ZERO to do with once again. Lying to the public trying to put the blame on Sling that the App was the reason for it being delayed coming to 3g. The truth is AT&T's own incompetence at building a network that can keep up with all the promises it makes.

Like announcements such as "tethering coming soon". Soon? didn't know 8 or 9 months later and no tether is considered "soon. They just blow smoke up your A$$ and blame anyone but themselves. AT&T is so full of ----.
 
sinsin07 said:
Don't worry you don't need to understand the ATT defenders, you understand reality. Based on these comments by AT&T defenders, they expect a company to sit back and say they did something when they didn't.
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I am not an AT&T defender, I just don't see a reason to side with either of them.

I do think it was pretty unprofessional for Sling to come out against AT&T. Maybe the write of the press release was mistaken and wrote it incorrectly. Everyone is so quick to jump on a company and construe everything they do as intentional. Why get all worked up? Seems like people are just looking for reasons to slam AT&T.
 
SFStateStudent said:
Slingbox are a bunch of boneheads. They've passed on the only opportunity to gain Apple iPhone customers. Slingbox is just TOOO expensive anyway...:eek:

Hopefully, we'll NEVER see slingbox anywhere near the iPhone....
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For a mac rumor demi, this is a pretty clueless statement. Sling is already out there and even embeded in some DVRs. You need to do your home work or turn in your demi status. Maybe you should wait until apple explins how it all works so you can get the picture.
 
So you people defending AT&T... Why on Earth would you? Sling had the proper coding in their App to begin with. AT&T's initial ban on Slingbox over 3G had nothing to do with the App, the code, 3G bandwidth usage or anything on Slings end. To me, it seems that they simply did not want to allow it. And now that they've changed their tune and they don't want their customers knowing the truth (that it could have worked all along), they're allowed to lie through their teeth? If a politician were to do that, you'd hang them out to dry. And rightfully so! Dishonesty in politics is abhored and should also be in any business model. I'm not moving to absolve Sling of anything wrong they've done in the past, but I believe they're completely in the right about this... I just don't get it...
 
SFStateStudent said:
Slingbox are a bunch of boneheads. They've passed on the only opportunity to gain Apple iPhone customers. Slingbox is just TOOO expensive anyway...:eek:

Hopefully, we'll NEVER see slingbox anywhere near the iPhone....
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Translation "i can't afford a Slinglayer so I'll talk smack about it having never owned one"?

People who want to take their TV with them anywhere they have an internet connection can do so for $150 bucks (Sling solo) + a free laptop/desktop app or a $30 iPhone app. Sorry this is about as cheap as it gets. No monthly fees, exactly how cheap can it get? Oh right... kids want everything FREE.

Not sure why you mention your last statement, Slingplayer has been available for the iPhone for nearly a year... We already see it, watch it and use it daily. Those of us with Slingboxes love it.
 
sinsin07 said:
Don't worry you don't need to understand the ATT defenders, you understand reality. Based on these comments by AT&T defenders, they expect a company to sit back and say they did something when they didn't.
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Trust me I do my fair share of AT&T defending when it come to service, I've never had a problem. I don't get into the whole "fanboyism" that most people get hung up on. I don't have a problem calling people/companies out when they're in the wrong.
 
Net Neutrality

Sling media not going along with ATTs story speaks to how ATT and other US carriers have a significant hold on mobile innovation. If ATT is shown enough times to have their hand in holding back innovation, maybe something will finally be done to prevent them from the acts in the first place.

Progress happens ... apps will be built that require more bandwidth. Developers are responsible for optimizing the amount, and "pipe" owners should be responsible for allowing for more.

I'm still baffled over the fact that we pay a separate price for voice and data and TV. If they allowed VOIP/Sling they could spend more money on driving for higher and better quality bandwidth.
 
So, just for clarification, they are still revising the app to work on AT&T's network right? Maybe not specifically optimizing it, but at least allowing it on their network?
 
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