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this is about 0.5 mm? I have been a big fan of thin, but this seems a bit extreme. I hope there are some other benefits other than 0.5 mm.

id think it would go w/o saying, but the thinner your other materials the <b>more battery</b> space you have.
 
Yes and my guess is that it's probably a good indication that the iPhone 4S production is winding down. Yay for the new iPhone?
Well, three possibilities that I can think of: 4S production winding down due to sales going down, 4S production going down due to the production switching to "5" or 4S production not changing much, but Apple starting to buy from a new supplier. I doubt anybody, but few well placed people in Apple knows for sure.

A few months ago somebody published a similar analysis, where they calculated a big drop in eInk Kindle sales by tracking the sales of eInk screens. The situation was much more simple in that case though, as apparently there was only one such supplier that Amazon could use. Apple probably has more than one IPS touch screen supplier.
 
The iDevices are thin enough already. Use the added large face size to maintain thickness and substantially increase battery capacity.

Then shift to Li-air ASAP to improve battery energy density 5-10x. At that point, faceless wearable units can be the size of a watch. Probably round.

Rocketman
 
I dont see how a slump in sales now is a a result of a possible future adoption of a diferent technology ?

Because, just like the markets that keep going up on good and bad news, Apple is considered to never be affected by bad news about its suppliers.
 
Not a fan of the thinner battery even if it is spread over a larger surface area. I still don't get why every smart phone manufacturer including Apple is so content with mediocre battery life.
 
Referring to an earlier article: Steve Jobs Planned Out 4 Years of New Products Before Death, Apple’s Future Will “Blow Your Mind”.

Perhaps this is it, the long awaited micro thin upgrade, the iPhone 4.5S


In the proven Apple tradition of saving something for later, next years ultra thin product will be the iPhone 5.0. Just think of the build up to that. Making people wait so as squeeze every last penny out of the current form factor, with the now historic front and rear glass, the shareholders will be over the top with happiness.

Thrilling :)


http://osxdaily.com/2011/10/11/steve-jobs-planned-4-years-of-new-apple-products/
 
Referring to an earlier article: Steve Jobs Planned Out 4 Years of New Products Before Death, Apple’s Future Will “Blow Your Mind”.

They would say things like this regardless of what actually happened. Apple admittedly likes to remain agile and capable of changing directions quickly. The idea that their former CEO left them with a master plan is just something to feed the fans. It doesn't require any bearing on reality.
 
The iDevices are thin enough already. Use the added large face size to maintain thickness and substantially increase battery capacity.

I agree, I would like to see battery life improve so much that it essentially becomes a non-feature (like "normal" headphone jacks, touch screens, bundled rechargers, and so forth).

It's interesting, if the company keeps such secrets but relies on so many external partners, it becomes very difficult to really keep secrets after all...

now to google "in cell"...
 
Well, three possibilities that I can think of: 4S production winding down due to sales going down, 4S production going down due to the production switching to "5" or 4S production not changing much, but Apple starting to buy from a new supplier. I doubt anybody, but few well placed people in Apple knows for sure.

Kind of thought (hoped) Apple was cranking out every last 4s that it possibly could in order to supply the clamoring China market, as well as all the other countries that were new to the iPhone this time around. I would have expected that increased marketshare to offset what might otherwise, be a more typical unit drawdown as a model transition begins to approach.
Wintek screens down by 1/3...? I don't know... Maybe Apple just really ramped up stock early on in the production, and were able to lighten up during this June month. Again; we arer actually talking about "Wintek", and not "Apple" specifically, but...
 
Release date

So, what's the latest buzz on when the 5 might be released?

I understand of course that it would just be guesses, but... surely some opinions are out there?

I'm not getting hints from https://buyersguide.macrumors.com//#iPhone

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Kind of thought (hoped) Apple was cranking out every last 4s that it possibly could in order to supply the clamoring China market, as well as all the other countries that were new to the iPhone this time around. I would have expected that increased marketshare to offset what might otherwise, be a more typical unit drawdown as a model transition begins to approach.
Wintek screens down by 1/3...? I don't know... Maybe Apple just really ramped up stock early on in the production, and were able to lighten up during this June month. Again; we arer actually talking about "Wintek", and not "Apple" specifically, but...

Also, unless Apple completely changes their market strategy, they will be selling 4s's and 4's when the 5 comes out.
 
Camera

Hopefully they don't go for thinner and use the extra space for something useful! Like a better camera, NFC chip, battery, etc.
 
It's "Plastic back, please say it is not so" you should be saying

Metal back, please say it is not so, I love glass its what makes the iPhone what it is, more metal not really as cool. :(

Actually Glass and/or Metal are rare to use today for outer cases because of increased expense. Plastic has been popular for decades, and Apple has been unique for the past decade by using Metal (mostly Aluminum) and Glass in their devices.

So I think Metal can look quite nice, it's plastic you should be saying "please say it is not so".
 
Same here, seems like some want an iPhone to go the way of Android look and feel, which would be a downfall for apple. Glass is what makes the iPhone different and estetically pleasing.

I think NFC and glass don't work together. Not for pure technical reason but practical.

My Skyrocket has gorilla glass and supports NFC.

So a) I guess the iPhone will need something else aside from glass to make it "different and aesthetically pleasing" :rolleyes:
 
Apple "wishes" technology was up to their own capacity to add features, miniaturize, deploy worldwide in every language, and generally be cool.

It's not.

Battery technology is in the stone age. Adding LTE increases energy usage to a bad degree. Network deployments most resemble what you would expect after a world war, not after a technological surge. Governments talk a game and do everything possible to step on your dic*.

Apple should increase the battery capacity to 2 days usage ASAP. Screw volume and mass (by a mere 20-30%).

Rocketman
 
So, what's the latest buzz on when the 5 might be released?

I understand of course that it would just be guesses, but... surely some opinions are out there?

I'm not getting hints from https://buyersguide.macrumors.com//#iPhone


From the Buyers Guide, I would guess somewhere around 333 days from the iPhone 4S release. I figure this because the new iPhone will probably be released slightly sooner to meet the end of Q3 2012, this would mean September instead of October. So this means we are around 60 days from the next release, that happens to be about 2 months from today. Tuesday used to be a popular release date, however a Friday release is perhaps more likely mid September? (September 14, 2012.)
 
Referring to an earlier article: Steve Jobs Planned Out 4 Years of New Products Before Death, Apple’s Future Will “Blow Your Mind”.

Perhaps this is it, the long awaited micro thin upgrade, the iPhone 4.5S


In the proven Apple tradition of saving something for later, next years ultra thin product will be the iPhone 5.0. Just think of the build up to that. Making people wait so as squeeze every last penny out of the current form factor, with the now historic front and rear glass, the shareholders will be over the top with happiness.

Thrilling :)


http://osxdaily.com/2011/10/11/steve-jobs-planned-4-years-of-new-apple-products/

I guess if he said it, it must be true. I'm not sure what's so mind blowing about this news personally.
 
I'm not sure what's so mind blowing about this news personally.
I don't see anything mind blowing about it, not even close. And that's my point.

Only Jobs could create a feeding frenzy via his hype, his marketing magic, and ability to draw buyers in. The guy was the worlds best salesman. That was his true expertise.
 
this is about 0.5 mm? I have been a big fan of thin, but this seems a bit extreme. I hope there are some other benefits other than 0.5 mm.

Less material between backlight and user equals brighter display for the same power usage. Brighter screen means better screen reading in strong light, or lower power use in average light conditions.
 
According to the report, Wintek has experienced one of its steepest declines in shipments on record, but rather than suggesting that the decline is due to overall weakness in Apple products, White believes that it is evidence of Apple moving to in-cell touch sensing technology in its next-generation products.

Rumors of a shift to in-cell technology, which would allow for thinner displays, surfaced in April with indications that it would benefit larger display manufacturers like Sony, Sharp, and Toshiba. Smaller players like Wintek that have specialized in the current on-cell touch panel implementations would likely see their roles reduced, and White believes that that impact is already being felt at Wintek.

KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo issued a report in late April estimating that a shift from on-cell technology to in-cell technology could allow Apple to shave up to 0.5 mm from the thickness of the next-generation iPhone. Altogether, Kuo expects that Apple will seek to embrace thinner displays, thinner back cases made of metal instead of glass, and thinner batteries made possible by spreading out within a larger form factor as a way reduce the thickness of the iPhone by nearly 1.5 mm.

The poor sales at Wintek would have to indicate weak Apple product sales, right? Look at all the phrases from the article that I bolded - "rumors of a shift", "would likely", "could allow", "will seek to". All those phrases mean this in-cell technology is NOT in any current Apple products, so how could Wintek sales be affected by it right now?

I'm thinking AAPL stock might be a good short on the day before earnings.
 
The addition of a lighter and smaller iPad is great, as is a lighter and smaller MacBook Air than the current 11-inch model.
 
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