The 17" seems incredibly unlikely. I do think something may be happening w/ the powerbooks though. I ordered one a week ago, and was told it would ship in 1-3 days. According to their site it's still being assembled, while I should have already gotten it. Apparently the Apple store here is completely sold out of powerbooks as well...
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"Doubt introduced"?
I see that the splash page of this site has been updated with a new caveat for this thread. Now it says. "Warning: Some doubt has been introduced. " Doubt has been introduced by what or whom? The skeptical members posting to this thread? Macrumors' inside sources? I know this is a rumors site, and isn't bound to the rules of formal journalism, but I'd appreciate it if you could let us know in general where this info is coming from or in the very least why it is evolving.
No, I'm not an Apple PR narc trying to sniff out inside leakers. I realize you can't harm your sources by being too specific, but as another poster to this thread aptly put it, please throw us a meatier bone.
I see that the splash page of this site has been updated with a new caveat for this thread. Now it says. "Warning: Some doubt has been introduced. " Doubt has been introduced by what or whom? The skeptical members posting to this thread? Macrumors' inside sources? I know this is a rumors site, and isn't bound to the rules of formal journalism, but I'd appreciate it if you could let us know in general where this info is coming from or in the very least why it is evolving.
No, I'm not an Apple PR narc trying to sniff out inside leakers. I realize you can't harm your sources by being too specific, but as another poster to this thread aptly put it, please throw us a meatier bone.
exciting and rediculous
Wow I can't believe that I'm so excited about this. I know Jobs wants to move away from expos, but I don't think he realizes the power of anticipation. I mean, we can't forget that anticipation has essenially sold the new star wars movies, and definately sells macs.
My guess: the video iPod-tablet.
Wow I can't believe that I'm so excited about this. I know Jobs wants to move away from expos, but I don't think he realizes the power of anticipation. I mean, we can't forget that anticipation has essenially sold the new star wars movies, and definately sells macs.
My guess: the video iPod-tablet.
iPod-tastic?
I dunno.. I'm all hyped up for a new DLD, I just came across 800$, and if this new goodie is in that price range, and it rocks, i just might get it. And I agree withwhoever said, " I dont think (Steve) understands the power of anticipation"
It's true, it's incredibly powerful! I mean, hell some of us are chomping at the bit!
I dunno.. I'm all hyped up for a new DLD, I just came across 800$, and if this new goodie is in that price range, and it rocks, i just might get it. And I agree withwhoever said, " I dont think (Steve) understands the power of anticipation"
It's true, it's incredibly powerful! I mean, hell some of us are chomping at the bit!
this may make some sense
...because if they intro these powerbooks at a lower price and drop the ibook line altogether they make room for
..............................!!!!! the ultraportable mactab or itab..something you can use inkwell on..as another poster stated..apple didn't make inkwell to run on some oversized wacom tablet.
This way the tablet doesn't eat at the ibook line. (since its gone in my theory) This leaves the G3 for the Tablet and the G4 for the macs that need the altivec.
Makes sense to me.
...because if they intro these powerbooks at a lower price and drop the ibook line altogether they make room for
..............................!!!!! the ultraportable mactab or itab..something you can use inkwell on..as another poster stated..apple didn't make inkwell to run on some oversized wacom tablet.
This way the tablet doesn't eat at the ibook line. (since its gone in my theory) This leaves the G3 for the Tablet and the G4 for the macs that need the altivec.
Makes sense to me.
Give 'em some credit..
While this rumor does indeed sound a bit outlandish, remember that MacRumors.com was the only (or one of two) website to accurately predict a SuperDrive in the latest powerbook. I think that gives a little credence to this rumor, even though I doubt its truth.
I dont think MacRumors ever got enough credit for that, but then again arn doesn't constantly remind everyone of the accurate predictions of this site like Nick DePlum does over at ThinkSecret. ("Think Secret first predicted this rumor to be true...")
MacRumors - I don't post much, but I read a lot. Kudos to you. Best of luck.
While this rumor does indeed sound a bit outlandish, remember that MacRumors.com was the only (or one of two) website to accurately predict a SuperDrive in the latest powerbook. I think that gives a little credence to this rumor, even though I doubt its truth.
I dont think MacRumors ever got enough credit for that, but then again arn doesn't constantly remind everyone of the accurate predictions of this site like Nick DePlum does over at ThinkSecret. ("Think Secret first predicted this rumor to be true...")
MacRumors - I don't post much, but I read a lot. Kudos to you. Best of luck.
Ultra Portable
I would love a Macintosh Ultra Portable
Give me a machine with firewire 2, 802.11g, a 30 gig hard drive, 512MB memory
you can skip the internal CD if an external DVD Burner is finally offered. I would love to keep as much weight off of it as possible.
I would love a Macintosh Ultra Portable
Give me a machine with firewire 2, 802.11g, a 30 gig hard drive, 512MB memory
you can skip the internal CD if an external DVD Burner is finally offered. I would love to keep as much weight off of it as possible.
12" G4 Lap/Tablet Mac
Think about this...
a 12.4" G4 Powerbook, low-end processor, but with a screen that folds around to a tablet, with integrated touchscreen capabilities.
Airport and bluetooth installed by default for netowkring and kb/mouse while in tablet mode. Price at about $1999. Any takers??
Think about this...
a 12.4" G4 Powerbook, low-end processor, but with a screen that folds around to a tablet, with integrated touchscreen capabilities.
Airport and bluetooth installed by default for netowkring and kb/mouse while in tablet mode. Price at about $1999. Any takers??
Give a 12" model a reversible/flip screen and you have a table mac. This would make it work with other incomprehinsible rumors of recent.
[edit] Hahaha, seems someone beat me to this by a few minutes. Guess I should have read the very last posts before posting one of my own.[/edit]
[edit] Hahaha, seems someone beat me to this by a few minutes. Guess I should have read the very last posts before posting one of my own.[/edit]
Market Segments
Fact: Apple is loosing market share, and this is potentially a downwards spiral for them. Smart users won't switch to a dying platform. Neither will developers.
Fact: For a variety of resions (Apple's 'religeous' design principals etc.) Apple doesn't cover all the PC market segments with their machines. While this is the case, they're missing out on potential switchers.
Hypothesis: Apple would be much better off spending time plugging their computer range to encourage more switching and address the market share problem rather than wasting time on toys. This is a computer company right?
So where are the gaps?
Desktop:
Very high end: We'll have to wait for new chips, so no movement here.
Small Enthusiast Desktop: PC companys like Shuttle are selling small cube systems as quickly as they can make them to the geek/gaming LAN party buyer. Apple has a fantastic (=geek friendly) Unix operating system. They need a small expandable desktop without a built in monitor. The iMac and eMac aren't really transportable. They aren't expandable. Apple needs to give its users a bit more respect and start building in more expansion possibilities.
Small Serious Notebook: If you check out IBMs site, they have 4 ranges of notebook: Cheap and heavy (R), Ultraportable (X), Expensive lightweight 2 spindle (T), Big desktop replacement (A). Apple have (R) sewn up with the iBook, and (A/T) addressed with the PowerBook. Still leaves space for an ultralight though. APPLE NEEDS A SMALL SERIOUS LAPTOP. It needs expandability though. 640M limit, no external DVI, no PC card expansion on the iBook is a joke - it's a student's laptop and Apple is loosing out on a big market segment.
So I'm happy to see a rumor that actually addresses Apples problem. Please, no new toys (Video iPod), and no new computers with no market (iTablet). Let's see more desktop and laptop alternatives!!!
Fact: Apple is loosing market share, and this is potentially a downwards spiral for them. Smart users won't switch to a dying platform. Neither will developers.
Fact: For a variety of resions (Apple's 'religeous' design principals etc.) Apple doesn't cover all the PC market segments with their machines. While this is the case, they're missing out on potential switchers.
Hypothesis: Apple would be much better off spending time plugging their computer range to encourage more switching and address the market share problem rather than wasting time on toys. This is a computer company right?
So where are the gaps?
Desktop:
Very high end: We'll have to wait for new chips, so no movement here.
Small Enthusiast Desktop: PC companys like Shuttle are selling small cube systems as quickly as they can make them to the geek/gaming LAN party buyer. Apple has a fantastic (=geek friendly) Unix operating system. They need a small expandable desktop without a built in monitor. The iMac and eMac aren't really transportable. They aren't expandable. Apple needs to give its users a bit more respect and start building in more expansion possibilities.
Small Serious Notebook: If you check out IBMs site, they have 4 ranges of notebook: Cheap and heavy (R), Ultraportable (X), Expensive lightweight 2 spindle (T), Big desktop replacement (A). Apple have (R) sewn up with the iBook, and (A/T) addressed with the PowerBook. Still leaves space for an ultralight though. APPLE NEEDS A SMALL SERIOUS LAPTOP. It needs expandability though. 640M limit, no external DVI, no PC card expansion on the iBook is a joke - it's a student's laptop and Apple is loosing out on a big market segment.
So I'm happy to see a rumor that actually addresses Apples problem. Please, no new toys (Video iPod), and no new computers with no market (iTablet). Let's see more desktop and laptop alternatives!!!
Re: Market Segments
Apple's losing market share? With all the PC manufacturors either going out of business or on the verge of going out who's eating up the market share that Apple is supposedly losing?
I don't think they are losing marketshare simply selling less computers just like the whole industry. This is due to market saturation and the economic woes of this country.
Apple's losing market share? With all the PC manufacturors either going out of business or on the verge of going out who's eating up the market share that Apple is supposedly losing?
I don't think they are losing marketshare simply selling less computers just like the whole industry. This is due to market saturation and the economic woes of this country.
Re: 12" G4 Lap/Tablet Mac
This is probably where those 1.25 sahara g3 chips are going if they upgrade the g4 in powerbooks at the same time but that would be to soon an update and the would make the g3 machine faster then the new 1ghz at certain things. maybe ibm found away to add altivec to its sahara chip. no matter what scenerio it seems weird.
Lastly, the rumor reminds me of this post, which was posted about half a month ago -
Chaszmyr
macrumors regular
Registered: Aug 2002
Location:
Its going to be a new portable computer called a SuperBook!
Its quite a bit bigger than a powerbook... a full inch thicker and a little bigger LxW, but it has dual processors, handwriting recognition, a built-in cell phone for wireless internet, a built-in printer, and a built-in digital camera!
There is only going to be one model available, which retails for $3599
The specs are:
Dual 1ghz G4s &1mb L3 cache per processor
133mhz System Bus
512mb SD-RAM
80gb Ultra ATA HD
1x Superdrive
Radeon 9000 video card w/ 64mb vram
bluetooth equipped
Chaszmyr
macrumors regular
Registered: Aug 2002
Location:
Its going to be a new portable computer called a SuperBook!
Its quite a bit bigger than a powerbook... a full inch thicker and a little bigger LxW, but it has dual processors, handwriting recognition, a built-in cell phone for wireless internet, a built-in printer, and a built-in digital camera!
There is only going to be one model available, which retails for $3599
The specs are:
Dual 1ghz G4s &1mb L3 cache per processor
133mhz System Bus
512mb SD-RAM
80gb Ultra ATA HD
1x Superdrive
Radeon 9000 video card w/ 64mb vram
bluetooth equipped
Re: Market Segments
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Desktop:
Very high end: We'll have to wait for new chips, so no movement here.
everyone agrees there we are toward of getting whip inprocesser, memory and bus and frame per second speed by wintel. I dont care who makes the processor just make it the fastest and best.
Small Enthusiast Desktop: PC companys like Shuttle are selling small cube systems as quickly as they can make them to the geek/gaming LAN party buyer. Apple has a fantastic (=geek friendly) Unix operating system. They need a small expandable desktop without a built in monitor. The iMac and eMac aren't really transportable. They aren't expandable. Apple needs to give its users a bit more respect and start building in more expansion possibilities.
everytime i suggest apple add dual monitor support, a pc card slot, and upgradeable video card and cpu card i get shot down and flamed. this will cost apple nothing as they are already there except for pc card. just make the cpu and video removable and unlock the dual display capability. anyone with a current emac,imac,ibook whowants firewire2,usb2, or any other new interface is out of luck with no pc card slot and its great for camera cards no cable.
Small Serious Notebook: If you check out IBMs site, they have 4 ranges of notebook: Cheap and heavy (R), Ultraportable (X), Expensive lightweight 2 spindle (T), Big desktop replacement (A). Apple have (R) sewn up with the iBook, and (A/T) addressed with the PowerBook. Still leaves space for an ultralight though. APPLE NEEDS A SMALL SERIOUS LAPTOP. It needs expandability though. 640M limit, no external DVI, no PC card expansion on the iBook is a joke - it's a student's laptop and Apple is loosing out on a big market segment.
Apple is so scared to add any exspansion on its consumer machine to even go as far as locking out features that are there, Apple engineers must hate this increase the mem to 2 gig unlock dual monitor suppor, add a pc card(its actually there in the form of an airport slot, audio in, two button pad/scroll, usb 2 and firewire 2 already and stop hoarding the 1-1.25 sahara chips as not to imbarress the powerbook
So I'm happy to see a rumor that actually addresses Apples problem. Please, no new toys (Video iPod), and no new computers with no market (iTablet). Let's see more desktop and laptop alternatives!!! [/B][/QUOTE]
I disagree with you there I have been pushing for the video ipod since the ipod and this is Apples one item that is truly making money and switchers with a price of 199 for a 5GB and a new high end vido version both multi platform this can creat some revenue to get the other things going. and maybe stop the paid upgrades
[
Desktop:
Very high end: We'll have to wait for new chips, so no movement here.
everyone agrees there we are toward of getting whip inprocesser, memory and bus and frame per second speed by wintel. I dont care who makes the processor just make it the fastest and best.
Small Enthusiast Desktop: PC companys like Shuttle are selling small cube systems as quickly as they can make them to the geek/gaming LAN party buyer. Apple has a fantastic (=geek friendly) Unix operating system. They need a small expandable desktop without a built in monitor. The iMac and eMac aren't really transportable. They aren't expandable. Apple needs to give its users a bit more respect and start building in more expansion possibilities.
everytime i suggest apple add dual monitor support, a pc card slot, and upgradeable video card and cpu card i get shot down and flamed. this will cost apple nothing as they are already there except for pc card. just make the cpu and video removable and unlock the dual display capability. anyone with a current emac,imac,ibook whowants firewire2,usb2, or any other new interface is out of luck with no pc card slot and its great for camera cards no cable.
Small Serious Notebook: If you check out IBMs site, they have 4 ranges of notebook: Cheap and heavy (R), Ultraportable (X), Expensive lightweight 2 spindle (T), Big desktop replacement (A). Apple have (R) sewn up with the iBook, and (A/T) addressed with the PowerBook. Still leaves space for an ultralight though. APPLE NEEDS A SMALL SERIOUS LAPTOP. It needs expandability though. 640M limit, no external DVI, no PC card expansion on the iBook is a joke - it's a student's laptop and Apple is loosing out on a big market segment.
Apple is so scared to add any exspansion on its consumer machine to even go as far as locking out features that are there, Apple engineers must hate this increase the mem to 2 gig unlock dual monitor suppor, add a pc card(its actually there in the form of an airport slot, audio in, two button pad/scroll, usb 2 and firewire 2 already and stop hoarding the 1-1.25 sahara chips as not to imbarress the powerbook
So I'm happy to see a rumor that actually addresses Apples problem. Please, no new toys (Video iPod), and no new computers with no market (iTablet). Let's see more desktop and laptop alternatives!!! [/B][/QUOTE]
I disagree with you there I have been pushing for the video ipod since the ipod and this is Apples one item that is truly making money and switchers with a price of 199 for a 5GB and a new high end vido version both multi platform this can creat some revenue to get the other things going. and maybe stop the paid upgrades
What if i told u that the 17' screen was that large because it was detachable.. Think big people. Think big.