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No you don't. I never touch the bezel.

When it's in my hand, it's either resting on my palm or i'm gripping it by the antenna.

OK, I should've added 'when playing many games'. For example, Real Racing 2. You need to grip the sides (when in landscape orientation) with your thumbs so that you can hold the phone like a mini steering wheel. Many apps, mostly games, need this.

Trying to hold the phone in your palms when playing a racing game looks and feels ridiculous.
 
Even then, it's not the resolution that's the point. The interface and apps are designed for a 3.5" display. Any smaller and they wouldn't work properly. Buttons would be too small to press etc., meaning that the current apps in the App Store wouldn't be compatible.

If this phone really does get released, I'm guessing it'll run iOS in a similar way to how the iPod nano currently does (its own few apps and no access to the App Store).

I hear what you're saying. Additionally, if the iPhone nano ran only non-retina apps, it would discourage developers from bothering with retina-compatible apps, which would be bad. On the possibly more important hand, though, don't you think Apple has good reason to make it run any apps they can? Apple takes a 30% cut of app sales, which means it's less profitable for them to release a device that doesn't run apps.
 
we don't need a 4" phone

they're finally gonna leverage the Siri acquisition

smaller screen shouldn't be an issue at the same resolution, right?
just 2 or 3 icons wide instead of 4?
 
Has anyone tried using the HTC Aria (3.2inch screen) and tried typing on the vertical keyboard? It's hard as heck.

Not sure about this iPhone nano thing tbh.
 
No home button, basically. Just a giant glass slate without a border.

The screen will make up the entire face of the iPhone.

I would think this was make it really hard to hold onto without accidentally pressing something on the screen. I have a hard enough time holding onto my current iPhone without touching the screen in the wrong place, and because of this it slips out of my hands sometimes!
 
...the AI based electronic butler service a year or so ago. I forget the name of the company (although I did know the founders!) and it allows you to issue spoken commands in natural English. IE, "Book appointment at hotel XYZ from START DATE to END DATE" etc.

And being the service is cloud based (I believe), it could (like Google voice search) work on any connected device.

The company is called Siri.
 
The Nano doesn't run iOS.

I'm pretty sure it's running some sort of version of iOS, a bit like how the current Apple TV runs a version of it. They wouldn't write an entirely different system from scratch just for a new touch screen iPod. They'd use what they've already got and simplify it for the nano.
 
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After reading (on more than one occasion) from hardcore iPhone fans that Apple doesn't care for the commodity or "race to the bottom" low end market, I'd be pleased to see this thing come to fruition. I'd also love to snap one up if the price is right.
 
I hear what you're saying. Additionally, if the iPhone nano ran only non-retina apps, it would discourage developers from bothering with retina-compatible apps, which would be bad. On the possibly more important hand, though, don't you think Apple has good reason to make it run any apps they can? Apple takes a 30% cut of app sales, which means it's less profitable for them to release a device that doesn't run apps.

That definitely makes sense. I'm interested to see if this rumoured phone ever surfaces. Apple has always been about making the 'best' products, not the cheapest. That's why they never properly entered the netbook market.

I'll be quite surprised if they do make a cheap iPhone, although I'm sure they'd have their reasons. They know what they're doing, or they wouldn't be as successful as they are.
 
While everyone else is trying to grow their displays Apple will produce a fabulous smaller phone with no contract requirement. People will go bonkers over this. It will sell like crazy. The wireless carriers will be able to give then away with a contract, or do the buy an iPhone 4(5) and get an iPhone Nano or two free. Developing countries will gobble them up as well. Apple will be able to base it on existing iPhone 4 internals and the 3GS display resolution and make these things for $100 given their production volume. When I told my wife about it, she said "perfect"; she feels her iPhone 4 is just too big.
 
I'm pretty sure it's running some sort of version of iOS, a bit like how the current Apple TV runs a version of it. They wouldn't write an entirely different system from scratch just for a new touch screen iPod. They'd use what they've already got and simplify it for the nano.

Actually, I believe Apple actually just added touch capability on top of the existing iPod operating system (Pico), and tweaked the UI a bit. It's not iOS, though.
 
If you could make the iPhone as big as the current physical screen, with a little room on top for the ear speaker and camera, you could have a nearly 30% smaller phone, with no change in display/interface. And they maybe able to reduce its with slightly by having the screen go even closer to edge. Would make for a nice form factor. You could make the top button do the same as the home button now, and make it require a longer hold to sleep the phone, or bring up a combined sleep or power off option.

I'm hopeful this is a true rumor. I think I would buy it, now that my iPad replaces my need for many iPhone features when I am traveling.
 
I'd assume that the screen size would remain the same but there'd be very little gap on the top and bottom. Take away those two sections... and that's taking away almost 1/3 of the phone.
 
The iPhone's Voice Control implementation is absolutely horrid. Even Microsoft could have done a better job.
 
If you could make the iPhone as big as the current physical screen, with a little room on top for the ear speaker and camera, you could have a nearly 30% smaller phone, with no change in display/interface. And they maybe able to reduce its with slightly by having the screen go even closer to edge. Would make for a nice form factor. You could make the top button do the same as the home button now, and make it require a longer hold to sleep the phone, or bring up a combined sleep or power off option.

I'm hopeful this is a true rumor. I think I would buy it, now that my iPad replaces my need for many iPhone features when I am traveling.

Yeah, EXACTLY. Or they could move the home button to the side.. or even something different... if you tap bottom center of the screen (in sleep) could act as the home button... or with screen on, tap and hold for 2 seconds. Just examples.. but they could easily work around that. Remember there were rumors months ago of the home button going away.
 
Unless it's going to be a device with just a few redesigned native apps -- and not connected to the App Store ecosystem -- then this is not something that's going to happen. The current iPhone OS and app user interfaces cannot shrink without the user experience going to hell.

Actually, it could be the same-sized screen but with no bezel left & right, and a smaller area at the top and bottom. Result: Same 'live' touch area, smaller overall device.

I can't speak for holding it without the bezel, but I have to imagine they've tested it to death. Especially after the whole 'antenna' flap.

If it feels OK in the hand, and has the same size display, I can see where a smaller device could be popular.
 
The more I think about it the more awesome it sounds tbh. If I am in no better shape financially in a year and a half and this is out it may be considered. I like the size of the phone now tho. Hmm.
 
Actually, I believe Apple actually just added touch capability on top of the existing iPod operating system (Pico), and tweaked the UI a bit. It's not iOS, though.

That sounds plausible. They clearly want people to think that it runs iOS. :p

It doesn't really matter what you think, it still doesn't. It's just tarted up to look like it does.
 
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hashholly said:
enberg said:
It doesn't really matter what you think, it still doesn't. It's just tarted up to look like it does.

The iPod Nano runs a slimmed down version of iOS,

It actually doesn't, runs the same OS as the the other iPods (bar the iPod Touch) Apple has confirmed this.
 
Would it be crazy for Apple to develop a smaller phone with the original 480x320 resolution (same as the 3GS, but at a smaller diameter it would have a better density), but with no 3G required data plans (the biggest cost of a smartphone)?

The kids would love it. They have the eyes and fingers to use a smaller phone and don't have the money to pay for a full-blown iPhone plan.

It would have to run all the apps that other iPhones can run. To do that, it would have to have either the current resolution or the old resolution. Jobs would never let the iPhone get fragmented like Android phones are. Unless they figured out a way to scale the apps...
 
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