If the voice navigation works really well then that might also compensate for a smaller device. More of a phone and less of a pocket computer.
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Small iPhone to Have Edge to Edge Screen, Voice Navigation?
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It's a screamer of a streamer
Let's not talk about phones for a minute. Let's talk about Television. Rumors fly every so often that Apple is doing a TV set, a real big screen TV. OK, take an AppleTV and put a 50" screen on it. No tuner though, just a couple of HDMI inputs, and Ethernet and WiFi. Kind of cool!
But instead of 50", think about 4". Basically an AppleTV with a 4" screen attached. Take out HDMI and Ethernet, keep WiFi, maybe add 3G, maybe add a phone since you have the 3G in there. Have iPod connector with video out. But it's not a replacement for an iPhone or an AppleTV. It is a replacement for the iPod Touch, as cheap as the iPod touch in its non-3g version.
So what do I have in my pocket? Like AppleTV, it has relatively few gigs of memory. It plays stuff from the cloud. It's a screamer of a streamer. Play rented movies and TV, play Netflix, play your stuff on iTunes at home. Play selected apps - the ones the AppleTV will open up to soon.
As for voice control, YES. Put Siri in there, in the same way it's getting into the iPhone and perhaps the Mac - ask this thing any question, get an answer back, give it orders like "book me a cab" and it does it. For my thoughts on upcoming voice control, check my blog at myallo.com.
Let's not talk about phones for a minute. Let's talk about Television. Rumors fly every so often that Apple is doing a TV set, a real big screen TV. OK, take an AppleTV and put a 50" screen on it. No tuner though, just a couple of HDMI inputs, and Ethernet and WiFi. Kind of cool!
But instead of 50", think about 4". Basically an AppleTV with a 4" screen attached. Take out HDMI and Ethernet, keep WiFi, maybe add 3G, maybe add a phone since you have the 3G in there. Have iPod connector with video out. But it's not a replacement for an iPhone or an AppleTV. It is a replacement for the iPod Touch, as cheap as the iPod touch in its non-3g version.
So what do I have in my pocket? Like AppleTV, it has relatively few gigs of memory. It plays stuff from the cloud. It's a screamer of a streamer. Play rented movies and TV, play Netflix, play your stuff on iTunes at home. Play selected apps - the ones the AppleTV will open up to soon.
As for voice control, YES. Put Siri in there, in the same way it's getting into the iPhone and perhaps the Mac - ask this thing any question, get an answer back, give it orders like "book me a cab" and it does it. For my thoughts on upcoming voice control, check my blog at myallo.com.
To those who want a larger screen.
I had a go of an HTC Desire HD on Friday after a work colleague got one.
And, sorry, it's too big. Even the guy who owned it said, "Taking it in/out your pocket is like wielding a brick at times".
It almost reminded me of the days I walked around with the original N-Gage at my ear while Nokia's were getting smaller and smaller.
The Desire HD looks more like a mini-tablet than a large phone.
I had a go of an HTC Desire HD on Friday after a work colleague got one.
And, sorry, it's too big. Even the guy who owned it said, "Taking it in/out your pocket is like wielding a brick at times".
It almost reminded me of the days I walked around with the original N-Gage at my ear while Nokia's were getting smaller and smaller.
The Desire HD looks more like a mini-tablet than a large phone.
Works great on Android OS. Why can't it for iOS? What's taking so long? Andoid has better Voice Command functions than iOS.
Hate to break this to you. While I love Apple products, voice command is one area Android has Apple beat by a mile.
I can tell my phone to call xxx resturant and it will find it and call it. Tell it to Navigate to location/store or address and it does it. I say 90% accuracy. You need to try it to believe it. In fact, I dictate many of my text messages now as well. I can't understand why Apple hasn't master voice command yet?
definitely happens to me too!
one time i was lying in bed using my iphone and i dropped it on my head, it hurt!
MWC (Mobile World Congress) is going on right now, many press releases and announcements coming out of that.
Apple is making sure they're not forgotten in the flurry of words being flung around...
The latest iPod Nano was a fail for so many reasons, the biggest being the exact same price as the last one but with the same memory and LESS function. Ridiculously stupid.
An iPhonano would be excellent if it cut some utility, was half size, and was half price. I'd be interested in that if it was still a good mp3+info holding device sans video. I'm not a texter, though, unlike most people.
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Exactly.
Apple knows it's users, of which many are women and anemic males who do not want such an ugly bulge on their starvation achieved bodies.
Also, such a large phone would not easily fit in the hands of females, which are key to the iPhones success.
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Exactly.
Apple knows it's users, of which many are women and anemic males who do not want such an ugly bulge on their starvation achieved bodies.
Also, such a large phone would not easily fit in the hands of females, which are key to the iPhones success.
Well not really 3.5" with 44x44pixel controls isn't ideal for everyone but was designed to capture the largest group of people possible. It also may have been a compromise between detection grid resolution(including light transmission lose from the screen), response time, control density and well price at the time. If Moore's Law applies then for the same cost they should be able to detect a target 1/4 the size with today's tech.
If you consider that the majority of the population are women and children. So even before you take in to account cultural influences a significant part of the market would find a slightly smaller screen more comfortable and still highly usable.
Those of us with bigger hands can be offered an improved experience with just the better detection tech.
Anemic males? :lol:
I kind of really like the current form factor of the iPod touch right now. It feels right in my hand. I have to see an iPhone nano in my hand, though, to really see if it's better or worse.
Can you imagine the current on-screen buttons 25-30% smaller? Clearly you didn't read my post properly. Resolution isn't the issue, the physical size is. Making the current apps any smaller would make them near impossible to use.
I agree. I thought the iPhone 3/3G was too big also. I had a Sony Ericsoon W880i for ages, and wouldn't give it up until recently as it was so handy.
The new HP Veer might have started something - it is quite thick, but otherwise a handy size.
If the iPhone Nano is 'half the size', that might mean by volume, and that would mean less significant reductions of screen area.
The cheaper phone doesn't have to include a retina display. The shrink could be anywhere between 0 and 30%. I'm sure that a $200 or $300 price point, enough people won't really care about the point you're making. There's a price/usability middle ground somewhere.
I think we all agree that Apple will not introduce fragmentation, even if it meant no apps for this new tiny phone.
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If this thing is an edge to edge screen, then clearly the screen size can remain 3.5". The device would just be about the size of the iPhone 4 with the bezels chopped off. No issues wit different display sizes. Home button can shift to the sides or go away altogether, the latter being more likely.
If this thing is an edge to edge screen, then clearly the screen size can remain 3.5". The device would just be about the size of the iPhone 4 with the bezels chopped off. No issues wit different display sizes. Home button can shift to the sides or go away altogether, the latter being more likely.
Wow, you say some pretty stupid things but this comment sets new standards.
On a related note: Last night I was talking to a guy that said he hated his Droid because it was so big. Five minutes later he was telling me he bought it beceause the screen was bigger than the iPhone. Talk about confused.
Then again, I would love a 10" screen that came in a 3.5" phone.
We're going to need electrically conductive styluses if the screens keep getting smaller on iOs devices.
Well...
If it's so cheap to make iPhone 3GS then why not simply sell that as the low end model AKA Tier 3 ?
Or even when iPhone 5 arrives... iPhone 4 is Tier 2.
iPhone 5 is premium...
Each new iteration supersedes the previous and 3 generations still run the current iOS... with iOS then 3GS probably wont run it so end user can keep iOS 4...
My niece uses my iPod Touch 1 fine with her music and stuff and videos and arcade games.
If it's so cheap to make iPhone 3GS then why not simply sell that as the low end model AKA Tier 3 ?
Or even when iPhone 5 arrives... iPhone 4 is Tier 2.
iPhone 5 is premium...
Each new iteration supersedes the previous and 3 generations still run the current iOS... with iOS then 3GS probably wont run it so end user can keep iOS 4...
My niece uses my iPod Touch 1 fine with her music and stuff and videos and arcade games.
my mock up
I think the the edge to edge screen design enables this new iPhone to shrink considerably without creating an unusable interface. The screen doesn't have to shrink much at all!
It might even sell better then the regular iPhone. I believe it will be free with a 2 year contract. This is the phone for the masses.
Hopefully they'll take the regular iPhone5's screen edge to edge while keeping the same form factor (or something similar.) This is actually something i've been wanting for some time!
I think the the edge to edge screen design enables this new iPhone to shrink considerably without creating an unusable interface. The screen doesn't have to shrink much at all!
It might even sell better then the regular iPhone. I believe it will be free with a 2 year contract. This is the phone for the masses.
Hopefully they'll take the regular iPhone5's screen edge to edge while keeping the same form factor (or something similar.) This is actually something i've been wanting for some time!
I think that it will be something like a semi-smart phone. Can't do everything that the iPhone can.. just most of the stuff. It would allow for Apple to sell to people who don't want to pay for data (my parents for their own phones) but still have a top-of-the-line touchscreen phone.
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Missed the MacBook Air refresh if you believe the rumors.. I hope its true..
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Missed the MacBook Air refresh if you believe the rumors.. I hope its true..