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Its hard for Apple to admit that they have problems with their hardware or software. It took Apple 8 months after MacWorld reported a problem with the 1st gen Intel Mac Pros. They also gave the answer that appeared to be the correct way to answer the problem. In this time my computer worked with more & more problems. I also could not get OS 10.5 to load or work. After Apple finally admitted to the problem & that I had called on it several times they finally agreed to fix it. It was a bad ATI X1900 video cards. But they replaced the Nvidia card that added a month later. Finally they had a third party repair company come out & do an in office repair. Now all works well as does OS 10.5.8. I've stopped even testing OS 10.6 on a spare drive. I'll wait for a couple more updates before I go any farther. With my income tax prep business that will be no sooner than next May. Its about time to lock down changes for the year. OS 10.6 has definately missed the cut. Now we see why there was nothing more to the new OS than a change from 32 to 64 bit & the elimination of PPC code. Some thought that a no feature update would go smoother than those with many new features. This new OS version proves that to be incorrect.
 
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Its hard for Apple to admit that they have problems with their hardware or software. It took Apple 8 months after MacWorld reported a problem with the 1st gen Intel Mac Pros. They also gave the answer that appeared to be the correct way to answer the problem. In this time my computer worked with more & more problems. I also could not get OS 10.5 to load or work. After Apple finally admitted to the problem & that I had called on it several times they finally agreed to fix it. It was a bad ATI X1900 video cards. But they replaced the Nvidia card that added a month later. Finally they had a third party repair company come out & do an in office repair. Now all works well as does OS 10.5.8. I've stopped even testing OS 10.6 on a spare drive. I'll wait for a couple more updates before I go any farther. With my income tax prep business that will be no sooner than next May. Its about time to lock down changes for the year. OS 10.6 has definately missed the cut. Now we see why there was nothing more to the new OS than a change from 32 to 64 bit & the elimination of PPC code. Some thought that a no feature update would go smoother than those with many new features. This new OS version proves that to be incorrect.
 
It's getting close to the consumer release of Windows 7 and Windows fanboys are working overtime to dig up any possible dirt on Apple. It's quite pathetic really.

Yeah, that's the ticket. It's a conspiracy. What flavor was that triple koolaid ?

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But the issue doesn't exist. I have now tried it on all four Snow Leopard iMac's and a Mac Pro.

Firstly, the Guest Account is disabled by default in Snow Leopard.
Secondly, when I did enable the login and actually log in and out - then logged back into my account. No data loss!

Isolated incident at best. Wish Neowin would have actually tested the scenario before posting this flawed article. Then again, it is a self proclaimed 'Unprofessional Journalism' site.

I'm pretty sure that this isolated issue has been verified to in fact be an issue, by Apple, and Apple announced that they were working on a fix.

/anti-fanboi rant
 
I'm sorry I'm going to have to call BS on this one, or else extremely isolated. Not only can I not reproduce the problem on either snow leopard machine I have in front of me but I'm sure we would have seen something on engadget or macrumors much earlier.

:confused:

Glad to hear that Apple has acknowledged the issue and is working on a solution.
 
this is why it's always good to wait after a release until things have been worked out
 
I love the armchair software testing experts:

"I tried it on my two or three computers, I couldn't replicate the problem, therefore it is BS and doesn't exist".

Come on guys, let's break through the reality distortion field and put down our Big Gulp of Apple Kool-Aid.

Two or three computers do not make an accurate survey. I would hope anyone with a high school diploma would know that.
 
This actually happened to me. i thought i did something wrong or touch something when installing some new software.

Good to know it wasn't me being stupid lol

Thanks to time machine it wasn't a huge issue just a pain to reinstall everything.
 
First it was Mobile Me last year, then T-mobile sidekick recently, and now Snow Leopard. You just can't trust "big brother" cloud computing any more.

Yeah, that's the ticket. It's a conspiracy. What flavor was that triple koolaid ?

http://riverdaughter.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/tin_foil.jpg

I knew it would come down to this eventually.

We have known our whole lives that it would eventually come. Day after day after day, we knew it was going to come ... and now it's here! :eek:
 
But the issue doesn't exist. I have now tried it on all four Snow Leopard iMac's and a Mac Pro.

Firstly, the Guest Account is disabled by default in Snow Leopard.
Secondly, when I did enable the login and actually log in and out - then logged back into my account. No data loss!

Isolated incident at best. Wish Neowin would have actually tested the scenario before posting this flawed article. Then again, it is a self proclaimed 'Unprofessional Journalism' site.

Dude relax, you don't need to frantically try to disprove the issue by attempting to recreate it. Apple already admitted that it exists and I'm sure they'll fix it soon. Apple's just a corporation, it's not the end of the world if their reputation gets slightly tarnished. In fact they need a good humbling to knock them off their high horse. They have the media on their side and most people will never know about it anyway.
 
I love the armchair software testing experts:

"I tried it on my two or three computers, I couldn't replicate the problem, therefore it is BS and doesn't exist".

Come on guys, let's break through the reality distortion field and put down our Big Gulp of Apple Kool-Aid.

Two or three computers do not make an accurate survey. I would hope anyone with a high school diploma would know that.

Yes, and a dozen or so people having the problem doesn't make it an accurate survey that it's a widespread problem.

Apple's on it, and for the small number of people having the problem, it'll hopefully be fixed.
 
Yes, and a dozen or so people having the problem doesn't make it an accurate survey that it's a widespread problem. Apple's on it, and for the small number of people having the problem, it'll hopefully be fixed.
Well, to be fair... Apple wouldn't be "on it" if it was only a "dozen or so people"... So while you are calling someone out for what appears to be exaggerating, maybe you should curb your exaggeration a bit as well. The problem was wide spread enough for Apple to push out a prepared statement on it, period. Enough with defending them to the death... they screwed up and acknowledged it. Let it go.
 
To me, admitting and correcting mistakes is a far greater feat than to not acknowledge anything is wrong. This is where apple falters in my eyes. I am glad to see they admit to ***** up, and are quickly trying to remedy the situation. kudos for Apple for not letting problems continue for a few more months like they usually do.
 
Well, to be fair... Apple wouldn't be "on it" if it was only a "dozen or so people"... So while you are calling someone out for what appears to be exaggerating, maybe you should curb your exaggeration a bit as well. The problem was wide spread enough for Apple to push out a prepared statement on it, period. Enough with defending them to the death... they screwed up and acknowledged it. Let it go.

Plain old good PR. That's it.;)
 
I love the armchair software testing experts:

"I tried it on my two or three computers, I couldn't replicate the problem, therefore it is BS and doesn't exist".

I have installed snow leopard on 28 iMacs at my college via upgrade means to keep all the Adobe CS4 Suites intact, I have also installed it on my own 3 Mac minis and MacBook all clean installs, no issues on any of the 28 iMacs or my own Macs, and my college uses the guest account as well as our own logins. I know since I help out in the iMac and eMac rooms, because the main I.T tech, just deal with windows lol.

i'll look today on a few more machines, but no one has reported it to the head of media. So I don't think its affecting our machines.
 
I have installed snow leopard on 28 iMacs at my college via upgrade means to keep all the Adobe CS4 Suites intact, I have also installed it on my own 3 Mac minis and MacBook all clean installs, no issues on any of the 28 iMacs or my own Macs, and my college uses the guest account as well as our own logins. I know since I help out in the iMac and eMac rooms, because the main I.T tech, just deal with windows lol.

i'll look today on a few more machines, but no one has reported it to the head of media. So I don't think its affecting our machines.

You have a bigger problem at hand mate, you college has decided to upgrade it macs to an OS that has just been released, a really stupid move. If you college had a credible IT department they would not move to SL till late next year. Though it sounds like the IT dept did not do the upgrades, whoever made that decision goofed up BIG time.

Just as a question, what do the windows machines run?
 
Got LOADS of extremely important data - so all I can say is that I am glad I didn't move away from 10.5.8 !!!

Couple this bug with HUGE firewire issues - I would probably be out of business by now if I upgraded...

:rolleyes::apple:
 
You lost your data because of a virus/malware or perhaps failing (cheap) hardware. Not because Windows decided to erase your profile after logging in with a Guest account. That happens only on a Mac. :D

I'm not sure how you'd know how I lost data. ;) Actually it was because one day, for some random reason, Windows refused to boot past an empty blue screen and mouse pointer. Explorer.exe would not start, under any circumstances, and Microsoft had no fix for the issue. The hardware was not "cheap" or "failing," and I am fully protected against viruses. Fortunately, having used/suffered Windows wince 3.1, I'm smart enough not to use it for anything important, thus no really important data was lost.

Data loss owing to any OS in unacceptable, but the Windows apologists really need to keep quiet.
 
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