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Not if the licensing fee was thrown into the Snow Leopard price. In other words, Apple would be making less profit. But it would be a nice move.
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seems a shame to cripple-true -kinda like paying premium for a superdrive
standard now

well if apple is selling SL for full price-then I think they oughta;

If they sell SL as an enhanced upgrade-then I hope no more than $75
 
I always thought of the UI notion of having borderless windows made only of content, with the controls and title bar appearing on mouse hover. Maybe someday that becomes standard in OS X, who knows...
 
Has nobody figured out yet the direction Snow Leopard is going is very consistent with a multi-touch GUI ?..


My fantasy about a 8-10" handheld "iTV Mobile" device is getting closer and closer and closer and......
 
well if apple is selling SL for full price-then I think they oughta;

If they sell SL as an enhanced upgrade-then I hope no more than $75

Apple only sells upgrades. you have to upgrade from a previous version of Mac OS because all Macs included SOME version of Mac OS when they were new. Microsoft has to sell non upgrades to PC builders but Apple does not sell full installs except with new Macs.
 
Audio in the new QT?

I realize Apple's trying to push QT as a video player, but I wonder what audio looks like in the new player. The way they've implemented the whole "borderless movie" idea, audio files would, well...disappear! Think it'll display album artwork (or lack thereof) like QuickLook?

I kinda like the new simplistic direction...I think.
 
I'm still excited to see the new "marble" theme.

With these changes to QuickTime now as well, I think we are going to see more interface changes globally than we expected.

I think I like the new player, but kinda feel like the top window bar should stay there at all times.

All that said, I think we will see a new "Marble" interface in Snow Leopard, but I hope it is not like the new '09 Garage Band, have you people looked at that? The interface is a patchwork out of control mess and it really doesn't look very nice (the editing interface)! :(

I think this is what we are headed for with "Marble" though.
 

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so it looks like it's copying of of the Windows Media Player in Windows 7 with the controls fading away. I always thought the windows media player was a lot more streamlined and lighter. Quicktime just feels heavy in OSX.
 
With these changes to QuickTime now as well, I think we are going to see more interface changes globally than we expected.

I think I like the new player, but kinda feel like the top window bar should stay there at all times.

All that said, I think we will see a new "Marble" interface in Snow Leopard, but I hope it is not like the new '09 Garage Band, have you people looked at that? The interface is a patchwork out of control mess and it really doesn't look very nice (the editing interface)! :(

I think this is what we are headed for with "Marble" though.

Garage band has generally been it's own thing when it comes to the interface. Look at the previous version of garage band. As far as the title bar goes, Garage Band from iLife '09 is Leopard's standard grey vs the black title bar in '08. Both still retain the wood grain on the sides. I personally don't think either 08 or 09 are a precursor to what's to come.
 
You'll still need to pay for the Pro because of MPEG-2 licensing fees.

Doesn't M$ provide that functionality in WMP?

Much like Quick Look. Prefer something different, more original. Meh!

Me too. It looks very much like QuickLook...

I wonder if they are doing a dark theme like we discussed here a while back.

It looks ... ok. A bit like Vista, if you ask me. I like the silver + Black. (Like iTunes in now.) Now to mention, it'll match the new laptops.
 
I really like it, looks very futuristic and clean. Though I would like to see what audio playback looks like too.
 
I don't know much about audio encoding technology, so I have a little question:

I'm planning to put some of my CDs on iTunes at a higher bit rate, but should I wait until I get Snow Leopard? Does Quicktime X encode AAC with better quality or anything?

Thanks in advance.

No, it will make no difference.
 
I'm amazed at how much Mac OS and Windows (e.g. Vista/Win 7) UI's are starting to resemble each other.
 
I hoped they'd delegate the movies and tv shows portion to Quicktime. A new player and database manager, like iTunes, but with a UI optimised for video.
No, that's horrible! I prefer a software that can do all similar things together as long as it does well. WMP so far has been a horrible experience with me, iTunes is leagues ahead.

I'm amazed at how much Mac OS and Windows (e.g. Vista/Win 7) UI's are starting to resemble each other.
Erm, that's cause MS trying to be Apple?

Now regarding the look, I dont like the top bar, it looks too dark and like other say, it best Apple only keep the floating control bar only when the video is played full screen, other then that keep it bottom! People are too used with having the play control fixed at the bottom of a window, maybe make it like auto collapse or something. So when u viewing it in no full screen, after like 3 sec, the top and bottom bar will collapse and only leave the movie playing, move the mouse over the movie and the top and bottom bar will magically slide open again.
 
I love the new look, its very slick, I always hated the metal ugly look, this is nice, hopfully the do this stragit through the system.
 
I did look at these screenshots and I wonder myself, those that mean, that Snow Leopard will have a black default UI (or any option to choose from)?
 
Question?

I don't have a mac yet, but I have a question about quicktime. Since there is an application called front row (i think this is what's it called) that is made for movie/dvd playing on a mac, what's the point of quicktime?

Especially since now quicktime doesn't have any special features differentiating it from a regular player, like front row...

Actually, same goes to windows, which as windows media player and windows media center. What's the point of two players?
 
I did look at these screenshots and I wonder myself, those that mean, that Snow Leopard will have a black default UI (or any option to choose from)?

nah i dont reckon Snow Leopard will have a black UI. the new QuickTime Player UI matches the black UI of some floating windows already in OS X like Quick Look, Movie Inspector in QuickTime Player, iPhoto editing windows.
 
I don't have a mac yet, but I have a question about quicktime. Since there is an application called front row (i think this is what's it called) that is made for movie/dvd playing on a mac, what's the point of quicktime?

Especially since now quicktime doesn't have any special features differentiating it from a regular player, like front row...

Actually, same goes to windows, which as windows media player and windows media center. What's the point of two players?

Front Row is a large, full screen menu that lets you access all types of your media using the Apple Remote or, if you're desperate, the keyboard.

Quicktime is an application for playing videos.

It would be inconvenient to have to move any video you want to play into your Movies folder so they show up in Front Row. They serve two purposes.

Front Row : Quicktime :: Windows Media Centre : Windows Media Player

I realize they have different features, and that the Windows ones are slightly more feature-rich, but I think you get the idea.
 
I hope they don't completley screw up with the Final Cut Studio 2 apps. In particular Final Cut Pro 6 which depends on Quicktime.

FCS3 will need to be coming soon. The main reason myself and the people in my field that I've spoken to even give a damn about Snow Leopard is the idea of Compressor and other FCS apps talking to the GPU for assistance on video encoding. That'll require new versions.

Well, that and the useless PowerPC code being dumped.
 
Apple only sells upgrades. you have to upgrade from a previous version of Mac OS because all Macs included SOME version of Mac OS when they were new. Microsoft has to sell non upgrades to PC builders but Apple does not sell full installs except with new Macs.

That simply is not true and you know it. It clearly says "RETAIL" on my OS X Leopard box (and also on my OS X Tiger boxes) and it does NOT require a previously installed operating system to be installed, neither does it perform any "upgrade eligibility check".

The retail versions of OS X are FULL operating system versions that can be installed on ANY compatible computer that has NO software whatsoever on it.

In fact, an unmodified version of OS X Leopard can even be installed on compatible PCs or on PCs that have been made compatible through some running software (like this special Linux CD that loads the environment required for Leopard).

The truth is that Apple ONLY sells full operating system versions, and the only upgrade DVDs that Apple gives away come with a computer. My first generation Mac Mini originally came with Panther and Apple put a Tiger upgrade DVD into the package; but those upgrade DVDs are not for sale.
 
Yea, and I hope Apple introduced Aperture 3 alongside with GPU acceleration support and lower memory footprint :D

The thing that bugs me with Aperture so far is a huge resource hogger and that it performs inconsistently and sometime after adjusting the levels and etc. It will take quite long to apply the changes. So lets hope GPU acceleration will solve that problem.
 
That looks good ;) Love the new design and the interface seems to be moving in the right direction. A player optimized for playback with a clean and intuitive interface! The ability to single click your file and add it to your itunes or uploaded to mobile me is sweet as well ;) Anyway,once again Apple seems to be moving in the right direction with that one so smile everyone :)

ps: Now that MS seems to be getting back on track with 7 - even though i'll have to wait a bit and make sure that this is really the case - i really can't wait the day i will be running Snow Leopard and Win 7 side by side on my Mac :D
 
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