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What a yawn. After my horrific experience with Leopard, which I installed on launch day and got the Blue Screen, I'm not going anywhere near Snow Leopard until at least a year after its launch, i.e. when it's relatively stable. I was one of the bunnies that helped Apple beta test Leopard 10.5.1 through 10.5.6 -- so you guys can have that fun as beta testers for Snow Leopard. As for me, I'll stick with Leopard that is progressively becoming more stable. In this iteration, sticking with the earlier OSX won't be that much of a loss, since the developments are under the bonnet.

I don't think of Snow Leopard as being a whole new OS. It's going to be like the Leopard we have now with even MORE bug fixes. I bet Snow Leopard is going to be stable right out of the box because it's more of an extension of Leopard instead of adding a bunch of new features and having to re-code stuff. Snow Leopard will not be very buggy... that's the whole point of just focusing on bug fixes and enhancements to the underlying code and optimizations.
 
It's surprising how little is actually known about Snow Leopard.
It'll be out in just a couple of months and Apple never publicly showed anything about it yet.
For Macworld I was 100 % expecting to get a glimpse, but nothing...
Maybe thats because most stuff is under the hood and can't be shown so good. But I'm eagerly awaiting the under the hood stuff, it's time for my nice graphics card to stop being so lazy :)
 
Boring? Comparing to what?
Just because there aren't millions of buttons and they all not flashing doesn't mean user interface is boring. Apple spends as much time on User Interface as on programing the Application.

Boring compared to other pieces of Apple software. And you've confused interface with appearance. I said
motulist said:
iTunes' appearance is boring and unattractive

But responding to your misreading comment anyway, Apple clearly hasn't been spending as much time on user interfaces as they once did, otherwise there wouldn't have been the translucent menubar debacle that caused such a huge uproar that they had to release an update with an option to turn it off. IMO, the current iTunes interface is flat and boring. I think that overall Apple's most attractive appearance theme was the final all-aqua theme which came right before brushed metal arrived as the second appearance theme that OS X ever had.

EDIT: Actually, in general I like much of the current Leopard theme of aqua+gradient grey border appearance a lot, but the problem is it's not unified. Where it's present, I really like it, but then you come across many instances where that appearance them is not carried into, so you come across programs like the current iTunes which has a flat and boring appearance.
 
If this story is true, I would expect us to get some tid bits or even a demo of it at WWDC 2009 this summer.
 
It'll be out in just a couple of months and Apple never publicly showed anything about it yet.
There is absolutely no way that it will out in a couple of months. I think this is why Apple has not spoken about it or released anything approaching a functional build--it's just not ready yet. I'm betting on an October 2009 RTM.
 
There is absolutely no way that it will out in a couple of months. I think this is why Apple has not spoken about it or released anything approaching a functional build--it's just not ready yet. I'm betting on an October 2009 RTM.

June is the target. "Within a year".
 
There is absolutely no way that it will out in a couple of months. I think this is why Apple has not spoken about it or released anything approaching a functional build--it's just not ready yet. I'm betting on an October 2009 RTM.

We are sitting here talking about an unknown UI from Apple that apparently they have had in under wraps for a while. They have been working on it without telling many people.

Do you not think they have a more functional version in-house? Maybe they are giving dev seeds to ensure compatibility with other apps.

Don't think you've seen it all with Apple.
 
What is it with everyone calling the UI "boring" versus something "fresh and nice". I just want something that works well so I can get my work done, not stare at the pretty colors. :rolleyes:

I totally agree, I was using windows 98se before I bought my first mac
(powermac 2.7 dual core using tiger 10.4) So anything was better then 98se.
I still prefer tiger over all look then leopard. But the best thing is it is rock solid. I just went and looked at the video of windows 7 and I think the look of the UI is hideous and too distracting. It does have some nice features like place your mouse in the bottom right corner of the screen and all the opened windows disappear to show the desktop, WOW, what an improvement, I wish I could do that. I have to go all the way up to the top corners (left or right) to do that. Guess I 'll have to go to Exposé and change it using my almost 4 year old OS. Wow Microsoft that's innovation
 
I hope that they release a iLife 09, iWork 09 and Snow Leopard Bundle... I'd be all over that like a fat man on a smartie!
 
I think it's great that Apple is focusing on bug fixes and optimization...but if that's basically all we're getting then shouldn't that really be a "Service Pack" release instead of a new OS version? Especially if they're going to ask us to shell out ~$130...I hope they offer something more than "it works better now".

Am I the only one who feels this way?

Not this argument again!

It's not just some simple under the hood fixes. It's a huge overhaul of the architecture! The addition of Grand Central and ability to fully utilize multicore processors would be well worth $130.

It all goes back to the definition of "features". They may not add shiny new apps, but the optimization and stabilization of the OS is a feature I'm willing to pay for.
 
hopefully its only better looking

I really like Aqua so if this rumor is true I hope that Marble is only better.
 
I suppose an updated interface would make it easier to sell an upgrade to the average consumer who doesn't quite understand all the behind-the-scenes improvements. At the very least, it would look and feel newer.
 
Like this. Redoing the UI may present an opportunity to make it fully resolution independent (it's in Leopard, but it's really buggy).
 
Agreed. I never use them, they take up space. Get rid of them or at least let us turn them off.

No. You'd be driven insane working on a document and having no visual way of knowing where you are in that document. Even if you never click on the scroll bars anymore, you need something to tell you approximately how big a document is and where you are in the document.

Scrollbars work great for that just as they are.

Like this. Redoing the UI may present an opportunity to make it fully resolution independent (it's in Leopard, but it's really buggy).

Agreed. Full OS-down resolution independence DONE RIGHT would be impossibly awesome.
 
What can Windows do that OSX cannot? Allow the user to define his interface theme without third-party hacking.
 
thing is

the difference between a snow leopard and a leopard is the outside colour and not the internals?
 
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