nice analogy! but its probably too lame for Apple more of a department store jingle.
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Snow Leopard to Get Cocoa Finder and ImageBoot
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nice analogy! but its probably too lame for Apple more of a department store jingle.
For App Dev it'd be awesome to be able to triple-boot 10.4, 10.5 and 10.6 to test compatibility.
Very cool!
Very cool!
The kernel is 32-bit. Device drivers are 32-bit. On G4s and original Intel Core processors, all userland applications are also 32-bit.
However, on G5s and Xeon/Core 2 processors, userland applications can be either 32-bit or 64-bit. Most of the userland applications built in to the OS such as Finder and Safari are still 32-bit.
With Snow Leopard, on Xeon/Core 2 processors, the kernel and device drivers will be 64-bit. (It's not clear that any PPC chips, even the G5, will be supported at all.) Most of the significant built-in applications will likely also be ported to 64-bit, depending on CPU support and the support of major plug-in providers. (Eg. In all likelihood, Safari will not go 64-bit until the majority of the Web plug-ins most people use on a regular basis are also available in 64-bit, for a seamless end-user experience.)
Cocoa is a library that developers use to write application using the Objective-C language. It provides an easy and simple way to write applications. It's strength is in creating GUIs.
Carbon, based on the C language, is similar but was mainly written to allow old Mac OS applications to be quickly ported to Mac OS X.
DVD Player is another Carbon app. I wonder if they'll rewrite that too.
so Snow Leopard being such a big update, does that mean that apple will charge money to the update?? and i haven't been the OSX scene for a long time. traditionally, how much do they normally charge you for??
i am thinking of getting the new MacBook, but i really don't want to pay for another update in the near future?? and could it be that, when they release the new Snow Leopard, they might release another revision of the current MacBook(specs-wise)?
i am thinking of getting the new MacBook, but i really don't want to pay for another update in the near future?? and could it be that, when they release the new Snow Leopard, they might release another revision of the current MacBook(specs-wise)?
We're not sure how much they'll charge for Snow Leopard (they most likely will) but on average OS X costs $129. I doubt they'll release Snow Leopard soon. I'm not sure if there's a quarter they're aiming for that we know of yet. I'm guessing next year this time at the earliest. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple starts publicly talking about Snow Leopard in January at MWSF 09.
Maybe, maybe not. No one knows for sure. But one thing is sure... The new MacBook and MacBook Pro models will run Snow Leopard just fine. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Snow Leopard ran fine on every single Apple computer released that uses Intel processors, including the original MacBook and MacBook Pro models from 2006.
I just don't understand why you can't understand that a Mac isn't for everyone. Macs are expensive, and not everyone can afford them. Maybe others are tired of Apple's arrogant, elitist corporate attitude. Perhaps others simply don't like having few choices in computer models, being stuck with little upgrade paths, etc. You made the choice to use a Mac, and that's great. You should respect that others have the choice to not use a Mac if they don't want to.I just don't understand why anyone would want to buy a PC ever since Mac moved to Intel.
Damn its the best thing that happened to me. I have all the operating systems loaded on my notebook. I do application and web development all on one machine for each platform. So yes it's worth paying extra for a Mac but its worth it now.
I'm a happy puppy.
- Did you consider that maybe he likes the smaller dimensions of the MacBook?
- Did you also consider that maybe he is unable or unwilling to pay $1,999 base price for a MacBook Pro?
- Windows has had plenty of innovation. Including innovation that Apple eventually "borrowed."
- Windows is also not crap. If it was, it wouldn't have a 90%+ market share.
- You can't get spyware/adware/viruses in Windows unless you a genuinely stupid person who clicks every link and downloads every odd program. Mac OS X is hardly safe, either, from the stupidity of certain users.
I agree with what you are saying, especially about windows not being crap. I don't like windows myself, but it is not terrible even though it has its flaws. Where I have a major disagreement though is the idea that you can't get spyware/adware/viruses in windows unless you are completely stupid. It is so easy to run into these problems in windows without ever doing anything stupid.
Spyware, possibly, but certainly not a virus. I've been using Windows for years and have never had a single virus. Nor has anyone I've ever known who was even moderately technically inclined.
The fact is most operating systems are secure by design, and it's usually the end users that tend to screw things up.
Does anyone else think that Apple needs to do something about the fact that I can play a video/DVD in:
• Quicktime
• DVD Player
• Front Row
• Quick Look
• iTunes
<edit>• and now sort of iMovie '08</edit>
All now offer full screen (does iMovie?), and the same general features.
Kill DVD Player (use Quicktime!). Turn Front Row into an iTunes feature (don't cripple it, just include a Front Row button in iTunes and market it as an iTunes feature). Somewhat cripple Quick Look to only play 2 minute clips of videos unless you skim, in which case it only plays the next 2 minutes; and (very debatable) kill Quick Look full screen and replace it with "Watch fullscreen in Quicktime" or something. I've absent-mindedly tried to Quick Look 2GB Movies plenty of times. It's not pretty.
This way we have a DVD/Blu-ray/Video player (Quicktime), a media Library/player (iTunes), and a simple (literally) quick look feature (Quick Look).
Now, I just thought of all this as I was typing, so feel free to stomp it into the ground if you have reason. I'm sure there are much better ways to simplify Video/DVD watching, this is just my quick idea on how to do so.
• Quicktime
• DVD Player
• Front Row
• Quick Look
• iTunes
<edit>• and now sort of iMovie '08</edit>
All now offer full screen (does iMovie?), and the same general features.
Kill DVD Player (use Quicktime!). Turn Front Row into an iTunes feature (don't cripple it, just include a Front Row button in iTunes and market it as an iTunes feature). Somewhat cripple Quick Look to only play 2 minute clips of videos unless you skim, in which case it only plays the next 2 minutes; and (very debatable) kill Quick Look full screen and replace it with "Watch fullscreen in Quicktime" or something. I've absent-mindedly tried to Quick Look 2GB Movies plenty of times. It's not pretty.
This way we have a DVD/Blu-ray/Video player (Quicktime), a media Library/player (iTunes), and a simple (literally) quick look feature (Quick Look).
Now, I just thought of all this as I was typing, so feel free to stomp it into the ground if you have reason. I'm sure there are much better ways to simplify Video/DVD watching, this is just my quick idea on how to do so.
Snow leopard should be a free update - to all those who bought OSX through version 1!
After all, Apple is just now doing what should have been done with the initial release of OS X.
As poster stated above, Apple put the pressure on Adobe, etc., to go cocoa and the Finder isnt even Cocoa yet. - Apple this is just...silly.
Snow leopard = OSX version 1...what we should have had in the beginning!
(Seriously.)
Peace
dAlen
i thought it will come out before July 2009? no? didn't they said it will take them one year to finish snow leopard on june 2008? AU$2599 for a new macbook, then AU$350 for apple care, and still have to pay for $129??
just curious, did you guys pay to upgrade to Leopard? what makes you say that?? mind to elaborate?? doesn't snow leopard exercise on GPU power alot?
thank you?
Snow Leopard will not be free, and I wouldn't be surprised if it also sold for $129.Snow leopard should be a free update - to all those who bought OSX through version 1!
After all, Apple is just now doing what should have been done with the initial release of OS X.
As poster stated above, Apple put the pressure on Adobe, etc., to go cocoa and the Finder isnt even Cocoa yet. - Apple this is just...silly.
Snow leopard = OSX version 1...what we should have had in the beginning!
(Seriously.)
Peace
dAlen
And I'm not surprised by Apple's childish behavior, again. Remember how they criticized Microsoft for giving Vista "many names?" (Despite the fact that Leopard, too, had a code name and a final name.) Or how they criticized Microsoft for delaying Vista, and then Apple also delayed Leopard not once, but twice?
That's the entire point. Snow Leopard is designed to take full advantage of the Intel processors and accelerate certain tasks to the GPU. Since it will effectively require an Intel processor, it will run fine on all of Apple's Intel computers. This is not even an issue, if you have any Apple computer with an Intel processor, you can run Snow Leopard.i thought it will come out before July 2009? no? didn't they said it will take them one year to finish snow leopard on june 2008? AU$2599 for a new macbook, then AU$350 for apple care, and still have to pay for $129??
what makes you say that?? mind to elaborate?? doesn't snow leopard exercise on GPU power alot?
Just because you personally never used it and therefore can see no use for it, noone else should be able to use it? I guess with that argumentation, we could close down any- and everything you have never used and therefore cannot see any use for, right?
No you can't. And you can't buy a USB to FW adaptor either.
Hmm, the white macbook is very soon end of line, and will be no more.
I notice a lot of users bashing Apple for "poor quality control" and saying that osx has not been really stable since panther. I came from M$ a few months a go and osx is heaven compared to it. I think you've been treated too good by Apple
True
But Leopard did have a somewhat rough start (rougher then Panther & Tiger which I both used). Furthermore, it took Apple more time to fix these issues.
Today I find Leopard (10.5.5) to be equal in stability to Tiger & Panther.
The Truth is that I had a few Kernel Panics with Tiger and none with Leopard and I have a PowerMac G5!
Snow leopard = OSX version 1...what we should have had in the beginning!
(Seriously.)
Peace
dAlen
I am not defending Apple in any way, but that's like saying that Windows 7 is what we should have had from the beginning instead of Windows 3.1...
Or the latest version of Ubuntu is what we should have had from the beginning...
Are you insane?!?!? Why the hell would you want to cripple quicklook? It is useful. I would wish that the quicklook window would stay open when you move to a different app. As for removing DVD player - I seriously doubt they will do it. The specially designed interface is more efficient to DVD playback than quicktimes interface. As for frontrow it is essentially already a piece of itunes - it is just a way to easily access your library with a remote.
I am waiting for the OS to be Fully 64-Bit and Rewrite all the built-in apps to be Cocoa and 64-Bit. That's the only way they will really get ahead of windows. I am really exited to see what windows 7 brings to the table. iTunes needs to be rewritten, DVD Player, Finder etc. Let's do it right. Also make a decision on the GUI. At this point it's like apple can't make up their mind, it's a cross between Aqua/Graphite and what ever this new one is that iTunes uses.
I like Leopard features but many applications such as finder and iTunes are getting slow.
I like Leopard features but many applications such as finder and iTunes are getting slow.