Heh, that is complete rubbish. VMs have nothing to do with breaking an encryption scheme or not.
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Snow Leopard to Get Cocoa Finder and ImageBoot
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Heh, that is complete rubbish. VMs have nothing to do with breaking an encryption scheme or not.
Another possible reason for converting everything to Cocoa: Resolution Independence. While the underlying frameworks have been present in 10.4 and 10.5, there were always more issues getting Carbon-based programs to work with it. Perhaps that's why they haven't made it a main feature yet.
True dat... But don't you think that this is a return to that era?
Also, I've found that the new Tiger and Leopard were very stable in my use. What made the difference for me is when I had so many 3rd party apps installed. They caused so many issues it wasn't funny. The more I deleted the ones that were obscure or that I had no use for, the system got more and more stable.
Just my (humble) 2 cents.
No, but they give a vector of attack on a DRM scheme that tries to keep everything from disc to eyes encrypted and locked down tighter than a drum. A VM would let you circumvent some of the anti-debugger technology baked into an OS that makes these players 'immune' to normal means of reverse engineering the encryption parts of the player, or letting someone grab the encryption keys straight from RAM.
Wow.... That's... uh... pretty extreme, don't you think? Why not just upgrade to the MB Pro? I mean, switching back to crappy, no-innovation, spyware/adware/virus-prone Windoze because of no firewire on a consumer portable seems extreme to me.
(Not trying to be rude, I'm genuinely curious.)
Sounds like we now know why the old Target Disk Mode is on the way out.
Would you enlighten us? ImageBoot does not replace Target Disk Mode.
I had kind of forgotten about resolution independence, but 10.6 does seem like a good release to introduce resolution independence... especially since it seems like they're working on all this under the hood cleaning, refactoring, and rewrites.
Maybe we'll start seeing higher resolution Macs after Snow Leopard comes out? Will we see 1440x900 on 13 MBs? 1680x1050 on 15 MBPs? Im pretty sure PC notebooks have had the option for those resolutions for quite a while now correct me if Im wrong though
How about if they incorporated Apple Remote Desktop into the new Cocoa Finder and make it FREE!!!.
I know it's nowhere near the same, but you can kinda sorta do that now with Screen Sharing in the finder. Also, you can use iChat theater to do some of what Remote Desktop does.
Just an idea.
What's the benefit of Cocoa?
I guess I could Google this, but I prefer to ask you all because the explanations here are always better...
What is Cocoa and how does the Finder (or any other app for that matter [I see iTunes was mentioned]) benefit from being written in it?
Pardon the ignorance.
I guess I could Google this, but I prefer to ask you all because the explanations here are always better...
What is Cocoa and how does the Finder (or any other app for that matter [I see iTunes was mentioned]) benefit from being written in it?
Pardon the ignorance.
Dude! I don't get what the big deal is!
1) I have never used FireWire in my lefe and see no use for it.
2) You can buy a Firewire to USB adapter
3) Buy a white MacBook if you need Firewire so bad, and do not want to pay a whoppin extra 700 dollars. Not only that, buying a white MacBook is $300 cheaper than getting the alumnium one. You save money.
He's looking for USB to Firewire. I don't think there is one out there for Mac OS X. I found one for Windows.
There is only one solution. Get off Firewire as soon as possible as recommended by Steve Jobs.
Jobs says and I follow and obey
!!!
I just don't understand why anyone would want to buy a PC ever since Mac moved to Intel.
Damn its the best thing that happened to me. I have all the operating systems loaded on my notebook. I do application and web development all on one machine for each platform. So yes it's worth paying extra for a Mac but its worth it now.
I'm a happy puppy.
Damn its the best thing that happened to me. I have all the operating systems loaded on my notebook. I do application and web development all on one machine for each platform. So yes it's worth paying extra for a Mac but its worth it now.
I'm a happy puppy.
Seond thought, I won't be trying it. the only reason I would would be for my Livescribe Pulse pen. However in reading livescribe forums, it seems the pen is recognized, but the livescribe desktop has a problem seeing the Pen. this is true on Parallels, and Virtual Box (even Virtual Box for Linux). Some people had gotten it to work with VMware 2.0, but it was iffy. seems only Windows PC's and BootCamp is supported at the moment.
- guess i have to wait till December....
I hope Snow Leopard will provide optimization for all Core Dual processors ( including early 2008 machines ), and not just the latest machines released this week.
I imagine it will also provide on the fly switching of graphic cards for the PowerBooks ( EDIT: Macbook Pros )...
I imagine it will also provide on the fly switching of graphic cards for the PowerBooks ( EDIT: Macbook Pros )...
firewire gone, how about making USB work?
If they're going to drop FireWire, that means losing actual OS features, like target disk mode and external disk boot.
It seems like a minimum is to expect the OSX team will provide those features for USB.
I am personally pretty pissed off about the FireWire thing. USB2 is simply not as robust for drives and I have a lot of FW hardware around.
I guess I'm expecting this means they will drop FireWire from the mac mini next. And then iMacs?
Arguments I've read about the 'expense' of including it are completely baseless, the chip cost and heat dissipation costs are non-existent. If port space is the limitation, then go with the mini FW.
If they're going to drop FireWire, that means losing actual OS features, like target disk mode and external disk boot.
It seems like a minimum is to expect the OSX team will provide those features for USB.
I am personally pretty pissed off about the FireWire thing. USB2 is simply not as robust for drives and I have a lot of FW hardware around.
I guess I'm expecting this means they will drop FireWire from the mac mini next. And then iMacs?
Arguments I've read about the 'expense' of including it are completely baseless, the chip cost and heat dissipation costs are non-existent. If port space is the limitation, then go with the mini FW.
Seond thought, I won't be trying it. the only reason I would would be for my Livescribe Pulse pen. However in reading livescribe forums, it seems the pen is recognized, but the livescribe desktop has a problem seeing the Pen. this is true on Parallels, and Virtual Box (even Virtual Box for Linux). Some people had gotten it to work with VMware 2.0, but it was iffy. seems only Windows PC's and BootCamp is supported at the moment.
Did you try the latest update virtualbox 2.0.2?
Really excited about 10.6!
Someone wanted to call it more a 10.5.x update than a real new 10.6...
Snow Leopard seems a HUGE new OS. Open CL, Grand Central, Cocoa Finder, "Real" Exchange support, QuickTime X....
OpenCL and Grand Central have merit, "Real" Exchange support is debatable but I guess in the end it's useful, but so far nothing of substance has actually come up for Quicktime X... my best guess is Apple is finally depreciating all of the old Carbon Quicktime APIs and finally making a complete shift to QTKit and possibly eliminating a few older unneeded codecs from the default install. Can't get excited over something when all I have is Apple's marketing rubbish on their website to go by.
Software isn't going to cut it. It's theoretically possible that Apple already has the chipset implemented to support IEEE 1394c AND Ethernet in the same port like what they did with 802.11n on some old notebooks requiring an updater (or Leopard) to get n, but it's not likely any older than a generation or two, and so far rumors of Apple supporting 1394c are just that, rumors.
Bring back the best MAC OS Finder
MAC OS X finder SUCKS!!! I don't want anything else.
I'm curious, what are those tab looking things at the bottom? I hated using OS 9 on school computers, but I never got the chance to fully explore the OS either.
No, it wouldn't work exactly the same, Cut and Paste might actually work!
I hope Snow Leopard is completely, fully 64-bit Cocoa
It's not distracting if you change the theme to Graphite instead of leaving the stoplight in place.
Sebastian
Is anyone else concerned that Snow Leopard will make a lot of third party apps inoperable?
I'm still new to Apple. How did third party apps work when you made a major OS update in the past (i.e., Leopard)?
I'm still new to Apple. How did third party apps work when you made a major OS update in the past (i.e., Leopard)?
It's your tab folders. You form them by dragging a Finder folder to the bottom of the screen where it turned into a multi-level hierarchical menu.
Its the same way you drop a Finder folder onto the Dock.
In OS 9 they had separate Tab Folders (at the bottom) and Application Menu (along the bottom on top of the Tab Folders) where else today they have it all on the Dock.
Yes, I hated using school computers as well but that's because someone kept changing your configurations. No concept of roles at that time. Everyone can change anything. But that's true for any operating systems at that time.
Do you guys remember this Mac OS 9 Quick Reference. Isn't it beautiful. Hihihihi
http://www.customguide.com/pdf/macos-quick-reference-9.pdf
http://www.customguide.com/pdf/macos-quick-reference-9.pdf
I thought Snow Leopard is supposed to focus on stability and not new features. Am I the only one who considers a complete rewrite of Finder something that could affect stability?
nahhh.... at WWDC Jobs said it'll be released in about a year. That means probably WWDC 2009... but a Christmas release date would be awesome!!
If you get a new mb today and Apple releases Snow Leopard like 29 days later you likely will get a free upgrade, but no promises.
There's no compelling reason to run the very latest OS. I'm still using 10.4.11 and until I have a absolute need to upgrade, I likely won't.