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A couple days ago I read a story in the local paper about land lines being taken out of dorm rooms because all the students have cell phones now. Apparently it's standard for every student to have their own line in his or her room. When I went to college we had one pay phone on each floor, and no one had ever heard of cell phones. Somehow we managed to survive without being instantly reachable. In my opinion it's not always a good thing.

Your opinion != reality. Somehow your generation survived, but technology has changed how the new generation communicates and goes about their daily lives. Just look at the iPhone. It converges phone, text, e-mail, Facebook, Myspace, IM protocols, etc into one device. Not just the iPhone, too; most smartphones provide access to most communications means that the younger generation uses. I do agree it's not always a good thing, but society's not about to make a u-turn, either.

That said, people that turn off any means of communication until they need to use it themselves do get on my nerves. A friend of mine was having an issue and needed help from one of my suitemates urgently; I was the only one in my apartment whose phone was on. Guess who got inconvenienced? And if my phone were off, that'd probably just be tragic.
 
Not on my cell phone. The only time I would receive a call is when I have prearranged that someone may need to call me at a certain time. Then I'll have my phone on, otherwise it's off except when I'm making a call.

I'd leave a message and they would get back to me when it's convenient for them. Holy cow, have we really become dependent on being able to access everyone all the time?

I'm not unreachable; in addition to my cell phone I have a work number and a home number, both with message machines, and four different email addresses. I'm sure they'll find me if it's important.

A couple days ago I read a story in the local paper about land lines being taken out of dorm rooms because all the students have cell phones now. Apparently it's standard for every student to have their own line in his or her room. When I went to college we had one pay phone on each floor, and no one had ever heard of cell phones. Somehow we managed to survive without being instantly reachable. In my opinion it's not always a good thing.

Agreed Totally. I want some me-time once in a while and it's annoying when people get totally ticked out, vervous and almost called the cops because they couldn't reach you for 24 hours. Please, only call me for small bit of information or emergencies. If I'm not reachable, leave a message (preferably text message) or write an e-mail. Also, don't expect me to have a long conversation about your days when I'm sleeping, having sex or eating as those activities belong to the me-time category.


Back on topic: I'm confident Apple will have a way for the consumer to deny the location information, just like it is on the iPhone. Might be easy to circumvent though. GPS could come in handy for traveling, especially for those people who rarely use a navigation system and don't want to buy one for using it only twice a year.
 
I feel that CoreLocation for a laptop/desktop is a little unnecessary.
But I guess it wouldn't hurt....

Well yes desktops...
But on the other hand if Apple adds core location to desktops that adds 100,000 's of resonablely fixed locations to add to the detection mesh. That has got to increase the accuracy of wifi tracking.

Would be good then for find your iPodTouch when lost or warning you if your MacbookAir was being carried out in amongst the sunday paper.
 
society's not about to make a u-turn

I don't think I ever said that; the point, to get back on topic, is that people should have the right to as much privacy as possible in their movements and activities, and not be forced to have those movements and activities open to general access (even if it might be social custom). If someone wants to have their location known at all times, fine, but under no circumstances should that be a requirement. And maybe you think it's paranoid to even think it might be required, but look at how fast the various internet providers agreed to turn individual internet search records over to the government as soon as they were asked to. In these days it becomes more and more necessary to be vigilant in preserving one's civil rights.
 
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So does this mean that an attacker will be able to find out where my computer is and steal it? Thanks, but no thanks....

Go back to school and learn something beyond Algebra.
 
I could not agree more! The commercial I see for the App that lets friends (and maybe NOT friends) know where you are? Forget that, too! I have enough demands on my time as it is and there are times I want to disconnect yet still have my phone on without fear someone from my office will find me at the coffee shop while I am surfing and catching up on e-mails.

I will pass - chalk this up as bad idea.

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It might be excessive for friends to use, but what about companies that have employees on the road with phones? Having people out on deliveries or service calls, and being able to see where they are in the day and tracking their progress is a great tool for management.
 
So does this mean that an attacker will be able to find out where my computer is and steal it? Thanks, but no thanks....

Well obviously any old hacker can say hack into the MacRumors servers, make them serve up a Macintosh virus that gets automatically downloaded to your Mac when you visit this site, the virus finds out where your Mac is, uploads the info to the hacker's site, who will then get by air and car to your home and steal your Macintosh.

In reality, guys who steal stuff look for houses that look decent but have no alarms and no cars parked outside, break in, take anything they can carry easily, and if the home owner owned a Mac, the Mac is gone. Or two of them go to a Starbucks, look for a nice laptop carried by a single person, one pours coffee over him, the other grabs the laptop.

BTW is Bluetooth turned on on your MacBook? Thieves can go on a carpark and find all cars with Bluetooth devices inside.
 
I feel that CoreLocation for a laptop/desktop is a little unnecessary.
But I guess it wouldn't hurt....

For example, your Mac would know whether you are at home or at work and change its network setup accordingly.
 
?? How so ?

Hi sir,
I think that the idea of putting a touch user interface inside a computer operating system was copied by Apple from Microsoft, because back when Windows 7 was intorduced (I THINK it was build 9801), their main idea was a touch interfacem which we saw on the table thing. I think Apple thought that Microsoft had a good idea and decided to include it in their operating system.
I know that multi-touch was introduced on the iPhone but putting it in an operating system was Microsoft's idea.
 
Hi sir,
I think that the idea of putting a touch user interface inside a computer operating system was copied by Apple from Microsoft, because back when Windows 7 was intorduced (I THINK it was build 9801), their main idea was a touch interfacem which we saw on the table thing. I think Apple thought that Microsoft had a good idea and decided to include it in their operating system.
I know that multi-touch was introduced on the iPhone but putting it in an operating system was Microsoft's idea.

you're obviously young ( calling me sir ) so I'll go easy on you.:)

The current build of Windows 7 is 7000 not even close to 9801. I know I do MS stuff too.

Now the Table. The table touch interface concept was purchased from Perceptive Pixel. A company started by Jeff Han. He is the guy that started all this multi-touch stuff.

The table was introduced about 6 months after the iPhone was introduced.

Now. Apple has a patent on muti-touch. They have it in the iPhone and also in the trackpads on newer laptops. The first one was out before Windows 7 ever went into any public forum.
It's a natural progression to go from a touch trackpad to a touch O/S. Whether it be in a future product of the current laptops.

If anything Microsoft got the idea from PP.


And please don't call me sir. I was an enlisted man in the military.;)
 
Hi sir,
I think that the idea of putting a touch user interface inside a computer operating system was copied by Apple from Microsoft, because back when Windows 7 was intorduced (I THINK it was build 9801), their main idea was a touch interfacem which we saw on the table thing. I think Apple thought that Microsoft had a good idea and decided to include it in their operating system.
I know that multi-touch was introduced on the iPhone but putting it in an operating system was Microsoft's idea.

Multi-Touch is a style of interacting with an interface (like pinch to zoom, two finger rotate, and swipe to navigate). Microsoft has added touch to their OS but not Multi-Touch. Also Apple was awarded the patent for Multi-Touch you can read about it here.
 
Hi sir,
I think that the idea of putting a touch user interface inside a computer operating system was copied by Apple from Microsoft, because back when Windows 7 was intorduced (I THINK it was build 9801), their main idea was a touch interfacem which we saw on the table thing. I think Apple thought that Microsoft had a good idea and decided to include it in their operating system.
I know that multi-touch was introduced on the iPhone but putting it in an operating system was Microsoft's idea.

I don't think it's fair to call it anybodies idea. I mean a lot of people have been working on how to get real world style pen & touch based interaction to work, likely well before the Mouse came about as a stop gap measure. I remember Nibble Magazine (which started then got replaced by Macworld mag.) had plans for build your own light pen for the Apple IIe.

The Linage of Apples work if comes from Fingerworks(est1999) if anywhere or the work they did with the Russian company for the Newton.
 
google gears

Google gears has this technology, even on the mac. They use it with their Google Latitude service. It's pretty cool in that it allows web developers access to location data within javascript. http://code.google.com/p/gears/wiki/GeolocationAPI When I tried it in NY it located my macbook to within about 50 feet, just using my IP and WiFi networks (no GPS or cell towers!).
 
I've had a multi-touch keyboard since 2003

From fingerworks, I've had this:

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I'm in the process of making this:

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It's nice to see some new (old) tech making it into snow leopard

The entire surface of the keyboard is a multi-touch gesture/mousing surface. Right half of the surface is for mousing, the left half is for cursor control and text formatting. Single finger touches are seen as key presses. Two finger touches are mousing and multiple finger touches are gestures. Such as pinch to cut and pinch out to paste, five finger spread to zoom out (reverse to zoom in), four finger scrolling, three finger w/ thumb twist to close and app (reverse to open a file) and the list goes on and on and on....
 
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So does this mean that an attacker will be able to find out where my computer is and steal it? Thanks, but no thanks....

Could possibly get back your stolen mac but it could also..

Your kid could be, unknowingly, chatting with some predator on myspace. Your kid, downloads something this pervert send her/him and it's a trojan. The predator triangulates your location.....

or you could be downloading some illegal files and your computer tells the RIAA were you are located.
 
or you could be downloading some illegal files and your computer tells the RIAA were you are located.
Im sure that would result in MASSIVE lawsuits.

The RIAA already has given up and instead has ISP's doing their dirty work anyway.
 
The paranoid xenophobes in this thread is astounding.

Yes you will be able to turn off CoreLocation.
Sure GPS could make it in MacBooks, but at this point it isn't necessary. The SkyHook wireless maps will probably do just fine.

Other implications:
Automatically change your time zone during travel.
Location based network settings.
???
 
All i care about:

Okay, some experts like you guys can have a debate over this, but all I want is:
Better performance (obviously, dont need it but apple promised)
a user interface like so:
iWork.com and mobile me look, black and grey: i want thedark scrolling bar on the side. i saw like a rumor somewhere that there would be a ui like iwork.com
 
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