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What do you expect? It's brand new technology... And, they had to get intel to downsize there c2d processor for it. I'm sure that alone brought the price up.
I suspect that's where I'm going to end up, despite the 15" MBP being heavier and bulkier than what I'd ideally like. I reckon they'll be refreshed with the mobile Penryn and multi-touch trackpads some time in February or March. Here's hoping the PB12 holds out for another month or two.
Looking at that processor, it seems to be the 65nm variety of the C2D with all the logic reduced in size by directly soldering it onto the board. On an Intel board I don't suspect it'll be that more expensive. It'll be things like the LED screen that will be pushing the price up.
I'd consider it if it was the size of my 12" Powerbook G4 (I don't care how thick my laptop is). The MB Air (btw., what does the "air" stand for??) is 2 inches wider and 0.3 inches deeper than my 12" Powerbook.
They probably don't think that you will. But you are not their whole market share. There will be people who buy this prduct and be very happy with it.
For those who spec is more improtant than potability you can still buy a MB or MBP. If they had decided to stop making those products then everyone would have a legitimate reason to complain.
No. It may sound shallow, but if I'm taking a laptop into a client's office I'd prefer a metal one
Compare the MBA to this ultra thin:
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&categoryId=8198552921644507782&parentCategoryId=16154&XID=O:sony%20tz:dg_vinb_gglsrch
Many businesses buy these for their employees.
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&categoryId=8198552921644507782&parentCategoryId=16154&XID=O:sony%20tz:dg_vinb_gglsrch
Many businesses buy these for their employees.
No. It may sound shallow, but if I'm taking a laptop into a client's office I'd prefer a metal one
Lol! I can quite understand that.
Not being funny, but what about a 12" Powerbook G4, the titanium one! I know its what you have now, but you love it don't you!!
I agree with you. Thin is important, but it's no more important than any other dimension of the computer.
When I look at the air, I see a medium sized computer. I don't see a small, very portable computer, because I'm still going to have to carry it around in a Macbook sized bag (or possibly bigger because I'd be scared ******** about breaking something that thin).
I'd like Apple, and other manufacturers, to start thinking more in terms of reducing the overall volume of the machine, not obsessing over a single dimension.
I get it with phones. But, I'm not going to be carrying my computer in my pocket. So, why do I care if it's RAZR thin, especially when it's Macbook fat everywhere else?
It's getting harder and harder to find reliable, good looking G4 Powerbooks. I think the ship has sailed on that one.
I'm going to reserve judgement until these things hit the streets and get real user feedback. People said the iPod and iPhone cost too much and did too little when they were first announced too and, well, we know how that went.
Lethal
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As an owner of a 12" prior there are problems with it
One it's not powerful enough (even compared to a 1.6 Core2Duo)
Two no backlit keyboard
Three the screen is poo in comparison to the new LED
The MBA will suit a lot of people - why do feel the need to try and convince people that their purchasing is decision is wrong, simply because you don't want one ?
Apple broke new ground with the iPod and iPhone. Apart from being thin, this is no different than any other Mac.
The MBA will suit a lot of people - why do feel the need to try and convince people that their purchasing is decision is wrong, simply because you don't want one ?
This is a Mac forum. Aren't we supposed to discuss these sorts of things?
Personally, I could care less who buys the thing, or for what reason. To me, "I want it", is a good enough reason.
For me, it's not about convincing anyone of anything. It's just about interesting conversation. I just happen to fall on the "Air has too many shortcomings" side of the conversation.
I agree and my comment was not directed at you but at the OP who seems incapable of accepting that others will want this laptop.
Even when we posted reasons he said we were being patronizing, and yet still continues to assume that we are all wrong for wanting one and we should all buy a MBP, MB or an old powerbook if we want something smaller.
I mean if that isn't patronizing what is ?
Hindsight being 20/20 yes, but at their respective releases people were saying, "How much for just an MP3 player" about the iPod and "It costs as much as high end phone X but does less and is only available w/a single carrier?" about the iPhone.
I don't know how successful the MBA will or won't be, but Apple has earned the benefit of the doubt w/me.
Lethal
Pretty much agree with everything you've said apart from this. Problem with EVDO is it's a US only standard. Europe and a lot of places outside the US are using GSM 3G/HSDPA. To build different cellular data into the MB Air would require a lot of re-engineering and Apple have already got their fingers burnt in Europe with the iPhone. O2 in the UK had to go back and install an EDGE network in addition to the 3G/HSDPA just for the iPhone and it's not been a sales success over here.
The best option would appear to be a USB modem. Most of the providers in the UK are now offering USB HSDPA modems on the unlimited data tarriffs for the growing number of Mac users. The other common option is using a handset as a modem via Bluetooth.
The iphone did cost too much, had problems and had a none removable battery... this is exactly the reason that I have not nor will I ever buy one.
I agree. It seems like Apple made the Air simply to show off its engineering skills but ended up giving the end user nothing. I mean come on, 1 USB port, 64 GB SSD Drive for $3000? Is the Macbook really that much more "unportable"? And what's with the black keyboard and unproportional trackpad? It really seems like an unfinished test product
i'd hate to have a laptop that thin
i'd be afraid that every time i go to use the trackpad i'd accidently press too hard and snap the thing
i'd be afraid that every time i go to use the trackpad i'd accidently press too hard and snap the thing