Really, I think everyone gets your point now. All these doom and gloom predictions... just don't buy one! Does it really matter if other people do?
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Really, I think everyone gets your point now. All these doom and gloom predictions... just don't buy one! Does it really matter if other people do?
HLdan, ignore cenetti, robrose20 and Sweetbike40. They're all flamers who are just trying to incite a polemic battle and don't have the decency or courtesy to respect other Mac users' opinions.
HLdan, ignore cenetti, robrose20 and Sweetbike40. They're all flamers who are just trying to incite a polemic battle and don't have the decency or courtesy to respect other Mac users' opinions.
I am definitely not a flamer. What I am is upset. When the product was first introduced I expressed my opinion that I didn't like it, and I thought it was a bad design. I did this to spark conversation and discussion. What I got was a cult like response by many members of this forum because I have gone against the all mighty Steve Jobs and Apple Computer.
What I have found is that if you do not like something apple produces you get flamed by people for expressing an opinion. That is just plain wrong and stupid.
Its amazing how cultish Apple users have become in recent years. I have used Apple products my entire adult life. I have even made quite a bit of money in Apple Stock. I love the company and think Steve Jobs is a great innovator. When someone thinks one of their products is not that great they get attacked by the Apple zombies ....
Its a shame.
I dont get why people are so ignorant to other products within the Macbook Airs Niche market. The Macbook Air within it's own niche market is quite cheap actually, especially for the screen size, thinness, and hard drive space/speed. Obviously if you think this thing is way too pricey it's not a product "geared" towards you. So don't worry about it, and just buy a macbook. No offence of course.
You should also realize that people have different needs than you and that your opinion is just that, an opinion. Move on man...its only a computer.
HLdan, ignore cenetti, robrose20 and Sweetbike40. They're all flamers who are just trying to incite a polemic battle and don't have the decency or courtesy to respect other Mac users' opinions.
excuse me? But I have NOT disrespected any opinions here. If anything my opinion is completely disrespected by a few people.
I disagree with you, yet I haven't flamed you. I'm not buying the MacBook Air, yet I see how it is a good computer for many people. I have no problem that there are many people who would much prefer a smaller footprint and they have their reasons for wanting that, yet you seem completely unable to comprehend that there are people for whom thinness is a priority and much more important to portability than footprint.
I have no problem at all with someone expressing an opinion, but any reasonable person with an opinion should respect the opinions of others. Most of us certainly respect that the MacBook Air doesn't fit your needs, yet you seem to have a problem respecting that it does fit others' needs.
+1.
another thing: this is a MacBook Air SUB-FORUM. expect a few owners and enthusiasts to be a little enraged with these threads.
There's no real reason for you to be upset. I mean, why?? You didn't need to voice your opinion about the AIR because NO ONE ASKED FOR YOUR OPINION.
There are people on this forum who are cheerfully purchasing the AIR and there are people on this forum who have an interest in this product.
Your opinion is negative so how are YOU helping anyone? If you feel your negative opinion is going to help people who are considering the AIR then you are basically calling people stupid as if they cannot see for themselves the capabilities of this product.
Negativity helps no one and you are a negative person, period!
Don't call people cult members here, you have no just cause. Just because we are not interested in your negative attitude doesn't make people part of a cult.
If someone buys the AIR why do you care? Post in forums on products you actually "LIKE", there's no point in posting about products you DON'T like.
two things
1. MBA offers exceptional battery life for it's size as well.
2. All those people saying this computer is underpowered... for it's price, yes, it is, but for it would actually be used for... aka taking notes in class, meetings, surfing the web, watching movies on the go (aka bus, train, planes)... it's overpowered. It's just a same Apple and Intel didn't put together a 45 nm chip with all that special customization as the 65nm they built. Also, with a student discount, this things around $1600, which isn't too shabby for a 4 year college computer. Also, the 2 GB standard memory signifigantly makes up for the undersized processor. Obviously, this computer isn't aimed at comp. sci majors.
But I imagine come July and August, when people with bigger wallets or just a craving to have their hands on this sexy lady, Apple will pump out a $1300 aimed specifically at college students majoring in communications, eng. lit and just about any non-engineering based major.
1. MBA offers exceptional battery life for it's size as well.
2. All those people saying this computer is underpowered... for it's price, yes, it is, but for it would actually be used for... aka taking notes in class, meetings, surfing the web, watching movies on the go (aka bus, train, planes)... it's overpowered. It's just a same Apple and Intel didn't put together a 45 nm chip with all that special customization as the 65nm they built. Also, with a student discount, this things around $1600, which isn't too shabby for a 4 year college computer. Also, the 2 GB standard memory signifigantly makes up for the undersized processor. Obviously, this computer isn't aimed at comp. sci majors.
But I imagine come July and August, when people with bigger wallets or just a craving to have their hands on this sexy lady, Apple will pump out a $1300 aimed specifically at college students majoring in communications, eng. lit and just about any non-engineering based major.
Here's my take:
http://mbp12.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=9
A favourite trick is in long crowded economy class flights where i can fit both the computer and the finished food tray on the table. It can literally take hours before the staff cleans the table for you. People with large footprint laptops just have to wait.
I appreciate the argument that people pack it in a bag together with a stack of paper so footprint won't matter to them. I just thought about it. I rarely have any papers or books in my backpack. I have it all in the computer. So footprint matters more to me.
So i'm on an airplane and hey, i think i'll just watch a movie on my new MBA - i'll just put the DVD in the drive...oooh, uuuuh...damn.
(Response - you should have ripped the movie on another computer and transfered it to the MBA.
My Response - well you know what life is just too short sometimes, and I cant afford the space on my small hard drive to have a few movies on there all the time for when i just want to watch one.)
Here's my take:
http://mbp12.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=9
A favourite trick is in long crowded economy class flights where i can fit both the computer and the finished food tray on the table. It can literally take hours before the staff cleans the table for you. People with large footprint laptops just have to wait.
I appreciate the argument that people pack it in a bag together with a stack of paper so footprint won't matter to them. I just thought about it. I rarely have any papers or books in my backpack. I have it all in the computer. So footprint matters more to me.
my fav trick is to put the tray on the floor by my feet! And just give it to them when they come to collect it. You'd be surprised how much room there is down there!
Check out this list:
http://tech.msn.com/products/Top5UltraportableLaptops.aspx
I don't think the Air is underpowered at all, and reasonably priced, too.
So why not buy a dirt cheap usb thumb drive? I got a 16 gig thumb drive 6 months ago for 145 bucks, brand spankin new from eBay. that's alot of movies.
I used to do that. The problem is I'm always occupied by something else when the cabin personell dashes by and I forget it. And after a while i have my feet in half-eaten food scraps.
Been there, done that.
Stop The Hate!!!
Look who does not have the decency or courtesy to respect others opinions.... LOOK IN THE MIRROR!
I just got my Macbook Air Friday in South Seattle, Wa. and Love it along with my iphone 8GB, 20" imac for the family, Apple TV, Airport Extreme, and my 2.2 3GB RAM MBP 15" bought just months ago.
I fell in love with Apple and all of it's great products this last Summer after picking up the iPhone and learning so much from ALL of these great Apple Forums and most of the decent mature Apple users... But It's hard to read some of this hate from some very young and in-mature people on this web site. If a guy/gal leaves a quote saying they do not like the new product have some of that respect your talking about and take their opinion for what it is... an OPINION and leave it at that!!!
HLdan, ignore cenetti, robrose20 and Sweetbike40. They're all flamers who are just trying to incite a polemic battle and don't have the decency or courtesy to respect other Mac users' opinions.
Look who does not have the decency or courtesy to respect others opinions.... LOOK IN THE MIRROR!
I just got my Macbook Air Friday in South Seattle, Wa. and Love it along with my iphone 8GB, 20" imac for the family, Apple TV, Airport Extreme, and my 2.2 3GB RAM MBP 15" bought just months ago.
I fell in love with Apple and all of it's great products this last Summer after picking up the iPhone and learning so much from ALL of these great Apple Forums and most of the decent mature Apple users... But It's hard to read some of this hate from some very young and in-mature people on this web site. If a guy/gal leaves a quote saying they do not like the new product have some of that respect your talking about and take their opinion for what it is... an OPINION and leave it at that!!!
Glad to have our argument finally be appreciated by someone in the footprint camp
I appreciate your argument, too, and I can certainly see why you'd need that. I've heard plenty of arguments from people in other threads who need a smaller footprint that make perfect sense, like photographers and cameramen who need the space beside their computer for lenses and such. It's just all these people who don't realize there are valid reasons to need both kinds of machines that get to me. I've never been in a situation where I've needed a small footprint, but I see where you're coming from.
I definitely hope you get your 12" MacBook Pro soon
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Glad to have our argument finally be appreciated by someone in the footprint camp
I appreciate your argument, too, and I can certainly see why you'd need that. I've heard plenty of arguments from people in other threads who need a smaller footprint that make perfect sense, like photographers and cameramen who need the space beside their computer for lenses and such. It's just all these people who don't realize there are valid reasons to need both kinds of machines that get to me. I've never been in a situation where I've needed a small footprint, but I see where you're coming from.
I definitely hope you get your 12" MacBook Pro soon
No offence to other people and all, but I'm an amateur photog and having a thicker laptop with a smaller footprint doesn't help me save any more space then a thin one.
My lenses and body are all damn thick and take up tons of space themselves. Personally my camera bag has a laptop sleeve built in so thickness does matter...kinda...and footprint doesn't
But if it didn't have a sleeve I'd have to say volume matters.
Maybe their gear is really different from mine. ( I can't see how)
I have no idea. Perhaps they have a really different bag or have very different gear? Personally, I wasn't sure how it would help either; it was just an argument someone in another thread presented me with as per their own use. If he's lurking around here somewhere, maybe hell drop in and enlighten us...