This is exactly how I feel. Not everyone has the eyes of a 20 year old.
To me, anything under a 12" screen is a novelty, not something I can actually use productively for an extended period of time.
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This is exactly how I feel. Not everyone has the eyes of a 20 year old.
To me, anything under a 12" screen is a novelty, not something I can actually use productively for an extended period of time.
ok, my other posts in other threads got deleted...they said I was trolling...
ok then hopefully in this thread, I wont be considered as a "TROLL"...
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MBA is the worst computer Apple released in last 5 years..period..
I dont understand the pricing nor the specs....doesnt make sense to me in anyway, shape or form....
I could never justify paying 3K and ending up with 30gb free space...on a 1.8 machine....no matter how thin it is....
finally, I spent some alone time with MBA today at the store.....
and now my negative opinion is even stronger.....
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ok then hopefully in this thread, I wont be considered as a "TROLL"...
[opinion]
MBA is the worst computer Apple released in last 5 years..period..
I dont understand the pricing nor the specs....doesnt make sense to me in anyway, shape or form....
I could never justify paying 3K and ending up with 30gb free space...on a 1.8 machine....no matter how thin it is....
finally, I spent some alone time with MBA today at the store.....
and now my negative opinion is even stronger.....
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What the hell is wrong with most of you on this forum??? You love to use the word "UNDERPOWERED" because it's convenient and you can only use this word when comparing Apple's line only.
Compare Sony's 11" wonder in power or any other ultra portable from other companies and then tell us if the MBA is "UNDERPOWERED".
It's stupid to compare it to Apple's own line of computers. Apple is not trying to compete with it's own line as that would not make sense.
Is Sony's 1-1.3Ghz ULV CPU notebook's more powerful compared to the MBA's 1.6-1.8 C2D CPU? Be fair, this whole UNDERPOWERED crap is getting quite old. The MR crowd just wants to complain because it's Apple. If any other small time company made the AIR then the MR crowd would be pissed at Apple for not doing it first. BTW the 12" Powerbook was not that powerful nor was it all that popular. Many people hated it for what it lacked against the 15-17" Powerbooks.
People who don't care for the MBA don't understand its use. It's not designed for power, it's designed for email and Internet portability. Some people will never understand that not all products are made for them.
It's funny. Up against the MB and MBP, it's underpowered (but the Sony isn't). Up against the Sony, it's not small enough. It makes me laugh. The perspective always changes to fit the situation.
I wouldnt pay 3K for sony either...but for the purpose (ULTRA-PORTABLE) SONY WINS HANDS DOWN...yes its a very underpowered machine too...but why would you need a power horse as an ULTRA PORTABLE?
air is not portable...not even close...it is the same size as regular macbook...
IT IS NOT ULTA PORTABLE!
go pick up a sony and see what real ULTRAPORTABLE looks like....
why do ppl that "hate" the macbook air go into the macbook air forum???
if you don't like it then thats fine.. so go to forums that have the stuff that you like
as for the title of this thread is kind of annoying i think
it's like
so apart from being fast what the point of a sportscar
so apart from being sexy whats the point of a supermodel
Apple does not advertise this product as being SUPER fast or it having alot of harddrive space or it being "ultra portable"
Apple advertist this product as being "THIN"
everything else is up to you if you think it's portable casue it's thin sure
if you don't like it then thats fine.. so go to forums that have the stuff that you like
as for the title of this thread is kind of annoying i think
it's like
so apart from being fast what the point of a sportscar
so apart from being sexy whats the point of a supermodel
Apple does not advertise this product as being SUPER fast or it having alot of harddrive space or it being "ultra portable"
Apple advertist this product as being "THIN"
everything else is up to you if you think it's portable casue it's thin sure
Oh The AIR is not "Portable" now??? Okay, now you are just being ridiculous. Any notebook is portable, you just hate the AIR, well good Apple doesn't need YOU as a customer for it, you'd drive them nuts with whining phone calls.
I've seen the Sony with my magnifying glass. The screen is too small, the keyboard is retarded to type on and you can't do much with a processor that's close to what an iPhone may have.
I'm 99.9% sure if Apple made the exact machine as the Sony you would try to sue Apple for making something so dumb.
To quote Abraham Lincoln and King Solomon:
"This too shall pass"....
The MBA shall go the way of the Dodo, The Mac Cube, Lisa, Apple III, etc ..
I give is 12 months at the most ..... any takers?
So you can't admit that others may find other things more important than footprint when it comes to how portable a laptop is? Anything bigger than 12" screen is automatically not portable? It must be wrong?
Thats what real ULTA-PORTABLE is......
same size as macbook and only 2lb lighter is not ULTRA-PORTABLE....
No, that's what an ultraportable was. Apple chose to go a different way with the idea, offering an ultraportable for people who've been looking for a laptop more portable than a regular MacBook, but without sacrificing screen and keyboard size. And it's gotten a lot of flack for it, obviously. Because there are lots of people who think that's not what an ultraportable is, but there are also lots of people who think that's exactly what ultraportables should have been all along. More portability without sacrificing the screen and the keyboard. Apple wanted to make a notebook that you can put in a briefcase-sized bag (which many people need to carry with or without a laptop) and forget you're carrying it, and then open it up and not even notice you're using a subnotebook, rather than struggling with the tiny screen and tiny keyboard that have turned some off subnotebooks in the first place. And that's exactly what it accomplishes for many people. It's just a different take on the whole ultraportable idea than everyone is used to.
I have one , wanna buy it? small hard to use keyboard, small (but nice) screen. Takes about 5 minutes to boot. Multiple windows open at the same time a challenge. Try spending 4 hours writing technical articles on it on a plane or in a hotel late at night. And to me it has always seemed a little "plasticy", and know a few that have gone through a few TX's due to cracking the lid/screen. It IS a great portable DVD player, I'll give you that, but then I have never used it for that. Oh, and did I mention that the Air runs OSX AND vista, which for my purposes is key?
the definition of ultraportable status based on foot print is arbitrary... for me weight is the thing. The whole point FOR ME is that is has a full sized keyboard and nice screen, weighs 3 pounds and does what i want, and for my uses beats the friggin pants of any other sub 4 pound out there
Am I suppose to care that the AIR is not an "Ultra-Portable"? I never said it was on any of my posts and neither has Apple. All I care about is if the AIR's size fits my needs and it does. The regular Macbook does not. It's bigger and clunkier and I don't need it.
The Sony is laughable. At least on the AIR you can do some serious Photoshop work. I can't do photo editing on an 11" screen and with it being so slow I could never expect it to render images.
What's the point of Sony having all these ports and features if I can't even do video editing on it from my digicam? It's too slow.
I think my posts make more of a stance as I AM interested in the AIR. The people that are not interested just want to wreak havoc so what's the point of posting? And before you say that you are entitled to your opinion, an opinion is one thing but to bash a product and try to talk people out of it and c-block Apple from selling it then you are wasting time posting.
ummm.. yeah ... ultra-portable implies that it is smaller and occupies less space that other notebook computers. This one doesn't. It is ultra thin, not ultra-portable. Its overpriced, underpowered, is the same footprint as the MB and is less capable.
It will fail.
I pity anyone who buys this Edsel.
Being so thin kind of makes it smaller and occupy less space...
Like I said before, I don't know what kind of bag you put your laptop in, but the briefcase bag that mine goes in...I'm not going to fit anything to the side of a smaller footprint, but I can sure as hell fit in some more folders or even a textbook beside the thin MacBook Air...
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Petrogk
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Have you ever carried around a laptop...what do you carry it in...A PURSE!
I like most/every human being on this planet carry it in a briefcase with files or a backpack with books!
What good does a 1.2'' thick 11'' screened laptop do me in a bag that would fit a 13'' screen?
Why not a 13'' MBA that weighs the same as that 11 incher AND is 3/4'' thick actually giving me more room in my bag?
Anyone who ever carried around a bag full of books with his laptop knows it's the thickness that matters! Your bag fits it anyway!
Jesus! What world do all of you live in? IT IS AN ULTRAPORTABLE...and about time someone made an ultraportable I can have fun using for 5 hours a day!
I'd really like to hear what why this isn't an ultraportable...How exactly is something with a smaller/footprint screen more portable?
Seriously?
EDIT: Why the heck do you need a smaller footprint? What kind of space do you work in...don't tell me you can't fit it on an airplane tray table b/c that's a blatant lie...
um the last time i looked the space occupied was a volume and the Air is about 88 in^3 and the TZ is about 99 in^3 (approximation based on thickest height and the footprint), so the space occupied isn't different....
I bought one and love it, so I don't really need your pity...
Up until this page of the thread, I was so worried people ignored the Sony link completely. COME ON, PEOPLE! People have different definitions of different things. If you want an "ultra-portable" with a smaller screen and footprint, get one, if you want one that's lighter-weight and thinner, get one. People say the Air is so over-priced and stuff, but, even if the Vaio TZ is not the exact same type of computer, it's specs are WAY WAY WAY below what the MBA's are. This is what the MBA is technically "in competition" with. With that in mind, how do you even justify saying that? Even if you find the rare cases of similar computers ("ultraportables") that are cheaper, they're not like $400 or even like $900 computers. They're usually around $16-1800, very close to the Air. The Air is not a computer for me, either, but I don't think it's dumb. Not in the least bit.
Sony Vaio TZ: Macbook Air:
1.33Ghz 1.6 or 1.8Ghz
3 Lbs. 3 Lbs.
11.1" Screen 13.(6?)" Screen
?" Thick .75" Thin
$2,200-$3,700 $1799-$3100
Whoopie.
Sony Vaio TZ: Macbook Air:
1.33Ghz 1.6 or 1.8Ghz
3 Lbs. 3 Lbs.
11.1" Screen 13.(6?)" Screen
?" Thick .75" Thin
$2,200-$3,700 $1799-$3100
Whoopie.
It occupies less "volume" ... hmmm ... lets measure the portability of a computer based on the amount of space is occupies in the universe.
This computer is garbage... It is not ultra-portable, it is crippled with respect to connectivity, I laugh at all the threads on "how to save hard drive space", the battery is not user replaceable, the ram is soldered on the motherboard, it is complete junk.
People buy this garbage just because it comes from Apple... Wake up and smell the coffee, a year from now you will all own $3000.00 doorstops ... its the perfect "thinness" to use to prop open a door.
Wait and see!!!
As long as it does what I need, I couldn't care less how well it sells. I think I'll buy a second one for my wife.
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Petrogk
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Rob, can you please read my post and respond.
I would love to know how the MBA is not an ultraportable? Define the term. How is 11'' more portable the 13''?
I would love to know how the MBA is not an ultraportable? Define the term. How is 11'' more portable the 13''?