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So apple is telling us we should wait 5 MORE WEEKS >:( Until they release

DBZmusicboy01 said:
But that was only for the china people.
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Oh but it wasn't. It was for many more countries than just China.

DBZmusicboy01 said:
And I mean that apple has never done this to us for a .1 update.
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What?! Do you even iOS? iOS 3, 5 were both like 3/4 months between releases of the last .0.x release.

DBZmusicboy01 said:
It's okay if it comes out late February but if it comes out like March 11th that's extremely far away.
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Alright then you get working on the iMessage bug which affects some users on Beta 3/4/5, or the springboard crashes, etc.

Jeez people, operating systems don't just sprout from the ground. It takes a LOT of time for them to happen, and they're working on it constantly every day. It's not like they're sitting on it just to piss you off.

You never mentioned what glitches you have, either.
 
C DM said:
It does indeed take a long time to get a well working OS.

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Only 6 months? That's basically at least half the time that the iOS 7 would be the latest OS. That doesn't seem that little.
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Minimally 6 months to run stable on 7.1. Could be shorter if new bugs introduced in 7.1.
 
C DM said:
Apple isn't telling you or anyone anything at all actually as they have released no information about availability of iOS 7.1 (beyond releasing the latest beta update to it earlier this week).

As far as the update itself, ask yourself a simple question: would you rather wait a bit longer (we aren't talking about months at this point, but weeks essentially) and have an update that properly resolves as many issues as it can, or would you rather rush one which resolves fewer things and/or doesn't fully resolve them and/or introduces other problems? And you basically have (or at least should have) your answer right there.
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I would rather have delta updates fixing major issues sooner rather than later. Its ok to have 7.1, 7.1.1, 7.1.2, 7.1.3, 7.1.4, 7.1.5.............. With the introduction of OTA updates why not? Fast and easy. Its clear that all the 7.1 betas (well a few issues here and there) were all better than the current 7.0.4 release. So like now with b5, its definitely worth a release over 7.0.4. Is it perfect? well no maybe not but its better than 7.0.4 (for some users mainly iPads and 5s users) So b5 could be 7.1 release, then roll out 7.1.1 later to finish a few more tweaks or problems that may still exist.

I suspect Apple is waiting on some March event with some new stuff and have a big production about how 7.1 has these most advanced features known to man and how its the best iOS since......... well.....iOS. Makes for an exciting event with cheering and clapping on how their flagship iPad Air can now open multiple tabs in the browser!! The best browser since........browsers! :D
 
Gah! It irks me that I have to wait another 8-9 months for iOS 8! This is ridiculous!
 
I feel that should have released simple bug fixes over these couple of months and change things like the turn off slider later.
 
Is iOS 7 really that bad for everyone? My iPhone 5s, 5, iPad 4, and 2 iPod 5th gens all work fine on iOS 7. No more glitches or bugs than iOS 6 (from my personal experience only). All of my co workers with iPhones are happy with iOS 7. Some if these posts make it seem like iOS 7 is unusable. I simply don't believe it is as bad and unacceptable as some are making it out to be.
 
Don't you worry! A source of mine (who is close to Apple officials) has told me that 7.1 will launch earlier than expected

AKA I'm making **** up and telling you what you want to hear just like most of these sites.

Whenever it's released I hear good things from people here in terms of stability and realibility so we won't be dissappointed :)
 
me7 said:
There are two ways for Apple to win. One that is still viable and one for that it's sadly too late:

Option A: Allow people to downgrade.
Give users the option to return to iOS6 until iOS7 is fixed. It's not us who impose unreasonable expectations at Apple, Apple do this by themselves. By making downgrades impossible, they burden themselves to release perfect software. If a new version is buggy, you can't just revert to a previous version. The only thing users can do is rant at Apple. As stupid as rants on the internet are in general, they are, ironically, the single most productive thing we can do right now.

Option B: Don't release unfinished software like iOS7. (too late now)
If you want to lock users out from downgrade options, make sure that your software is ready when you roll it out. iOS7 was not ready for everyday use when Apple decided to push it out to everyone via OTA. They could have released iOS 6.2 with small but stable improvements instead and gives iOS7 the additional development time it obviously needs.
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Software is never finished...
 
Michael Goff said:
Software is never finished...
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I meant "finished" in the sense of "good enough to replace the previous version". You can always add more features and software is never perfect, but if you release an update without any means to downgrade you need to make damn sure that you don't break a lot of existing functionality.
 
me7 said:
I meant "finished" in the sense of "good enough to replace the previous version". You can always add more features and software is never perfect, but if you release an update without any means to downgrade you need to make damn sure that you don't break a lot of existing functionality.
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iOS 7 was good enough to replace 6.1
 
PNutts said:
Not by a long shot, but I suppose it depends on the definition of "good enough". Resprings, crashes, and app incompatibility are not good enough for me.
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Ok, I understand that a fair amount of people are experiencing things like restrings and crashes now and again. That said, what in the hell does iOS 7 have to do with developers not updating their apps? Incompatibility has nothing to do with Apple, and everything to do with developers not following up in a timely fashion.
 
Nolander07 said:
Is iOS 7 really that bad for everyone? My iPhone 5s, 5, iPad 4, and 2 iPod 5th gens all work fine on iOS 7. No more glitches or bugs than iOS 6 (from my personal experience only). All of my co workers with iPhones are happy with iOS 7. Some if these posts make it seem like iOS 7 is unusable. I simply don't believe it is as bad and unacceptable as some are making it out to be.
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I totally agree. I too have not had any problems whatsoever with my iPhone 5. I have the feeling that certain downloaded Apps may be the problem. They may not be upgraded or be totally compatible with iOS 7. Just a thought!

I my opinion, some people are only too ready to blame iOS 7 whenever a problem occurs without even considering what else they may have downloaded onto their device.
 
NT1440 said:
Ok, I understand that a fair amount of people are experiencing things like restrings and crashes now and again. That said, what in the hell does iOS 7 have to do with developers not updating their apps? Incompatibility has nothing to do with Apple, and everything to do with developers not following up in a timely fashion.
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Honest question here because I don't know. Did Apple notify developers that certain APIs they use will no longer work in iOS 7 or cause the application to crash? If so then the developers are to blame. If not, then Apple is. I don't know what backwards compatibility Apple provided in iOS 7. The third option is that iOS 7 is buggy.
 
Shuri said:
Having an iPhone 5 without ANY bugs (am I that lucky?) I wonder what these major bugs are?
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Major bugs, not many apart from the GUI rye springing and memory issues with safari. But these are on ALL iOS devices running 7.0.x so don't worry if you use your device infrequently or are blind to the issues.

Don't worry though, the bugs that are imperceptible to you are fixed in 7.1
 
John T said:
I totally agree. I too have not had any problems whatsoever with my iPhone 5. I have the feeling that certain downloaded Apps may be the problem. They may not be upgraded or be totally compatible with iOS 7. Just a thought!

I my opinion, some people are only too ready to blame iOS 7 whenever a problem occurs without even considering what else they may have downloaded onto their device.
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Really?

Apple promises fix for iOS 7 crash bug

Mashable reports that Apple has acknowledged a bug in iOS 7 that causes this issue and will be releasing a fix in a future software update.
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DBZmusicboy01 said:
iOS 7.1 ? THIS IS MADNESS....I am extremely upset that I still have to deal with MAJOR bugs on my iPhone 5 that has been there since December and I did everything even restored as new. STILL No fix and I really hope Apple releases 7.0.5 at least....Until 7.1 is ready. Come on what kind of company waits 4+ MONTHS Just to release a .1 update? It makes sense when it was iOS 6 to iOS 7....But to iOS 7.1 It will take apple that many months? That's not normal for a company that have billions of dollars and leaving all of us waiting until a .1 update. :mad: Who wouldn't be angry?
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Does it respring?
 
khha4113 said:
Really?
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Yes, Really! ;)

Please read my post a little more carefully. I simply suggested that other Apps apart from iOS 7 could be causing problems. If the culprit is a bug in the OS, why do the vast majority of users have no problems whatsoever?
 
John T said:
Yes, Really! ;)



Please read my post a little more carefully. I simply suggested that other Apps apart from iOS 7 could be causing problems. If the culprit is a bug in the OS, why do the vast majority of users have no problems whatsoever?
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If that's the case that's still a problem with iOS. App should be sand boxed well enough to not interfere with anything else.

I mean come on, Apple says there is a problem and Apple is fixing the problem. Beta testers are reporting good results from Apples updates. And some people still turn a blind eye, can't be Apple it's gotta be something else.
 
cynics said:
If that's the case that's still a problem with iOS. App should be sand boxed well enough to not interfere with anything else.

I mean come on, Apple says there is a problem and Apple is fixing the problem. Beta testers are reporting good results from Apples updates. And some people still turn a blind eye, can't be Apple it's gotta be something else.
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I couldn't say better! Thank you.
 
John T said:
Yes, Really! ;)

Please read my post a little more carefully. I simply suggested that other Apps apart from iOS 7 could be causing problems. If the culprit is a bug in the OS, why do the vast majority of users have no problems whatsoever?
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Is the vast majority really not experiencing any problems at all?

If there wasn't an inherent issue that was big enough would Apple really bother to come out and actually admit there was one?
 
John T said:
Yes, Really! ;)

Please read my post a little more carefully. I simply suggested that other Apps apart from iOS 7 could be causing problems. If the culprit is a bug in the OS, why do the vast majority of users have no problems whatsoever?
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While a lot of users aren't having a lot of issues that doesn't mean there aren't any with apples core apps. Safari has been proven to cause low memory crashes. Multitasking and the music app are also proven to cause resprings of the device. Why do you think apple publicly acknowledged it a couple weeks ago commenting on random reboots?

Might help if you read some tech news ;)
 
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