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Does it work on AT&T's LTE network? I thought it was a different band than T-Mobile's?
Yeah, like I was saying in another thread if you put both the tmobile and att unlocked models side by side you wouldn't be able to tell them apart? Why does it feel like the tmobile model is frowned upon?
 
me too but they weren't unlocked ... they were AT&T

I think the OP means unlocked ones

No I just want it without a contract I'll be putting it on AT&T. So they did sell full retail priced AT&T 5s last year? Some folks are saying it was only tmobile that was offered that way...unless you guys are talking about the same model?
 
Actually what happened last year with the 5s, they did sell the unlocked version at launch but then it was removed.
 
just ask AT&T full price. It will come unlocked. Been doing that since the 4S

I don't know why there's so much mystery with it. Not even the Apple Store employees know.

I once went to the store to get one for my father. He asked for an unlocked, and they automatically said no. I asked for the AT&T full price, and they warned that it wouldn't come unlocked and that mine was unlocked by mistake lol. We opened my father's right there in front of him and we even put his international sim card. The poor seller was so surprised.
 
just ask AT&T full price. It will come unlocked. Been doing that since the 4S

I don't know why there's so much mystery with it. Not even the Apple Store employees know.

I once went to the store to get one for my father. He asked for an unlocked, and they automatically said no. I asked for the AT&T full price, and they warned that it wouldn't come unlocked and that mine was unlocked by mistake lol. We opened my father's right there in front of him and we even put his international sim card. The poor seller was so surprised.

I think most know but they are told not to sell or advertise it as unlocked.
Some even go as far as telling you it might still be locked to AT&T even if you paid full price and that is completely false to scare people away.
They want to lock people on contracts when it first comes out and avoid people buying them full price unlocked and selling them online or elsewhere for profit.
 
just ask AT&T full price. It will come unlocked. Been doing that since the 4S

I don't know why there's so much mystery with it. Not even the Apple Store employees know.

I once went to the store to get one for my father. He asked for an unlocked, and they automatically said no. I asked for the AT&T full price, and they warned that it wouldn't come unlocked and that mine was unlocked by mistake lol. We opened my father's right there in front of him and we even put his international sim card. The poor seller was so surprised.
I am not taking about instore talking about via online when they're released for sale

Actually what happened last year with the 5s, they did sell the unlocked version at launch but then it was removed.
It changes by the minute sheesh lol
 
Doesn't matter to me because no phone in thailand is locked. Locked phones should be illegal.
 
No I just want it without a contract I'll be putting it on AT&T. So they did sell full retail priced AT&T 5s last year? Some folks are saying it was only tmobile that was offered that way...unless you guys are talking about the same model?

I 100% went into the Apple Store on launch day and purchased 2 64Gb iPhone 5s' for AT&T at full price off contract for $849 each. I walked out of the store with them in the box unopened and nothing to do with a contract.

Now ... Tmobile's iphone is the unlocked model that can work on all GSM networks. This model was not available launch day last year.
 
If i do buy it outright, there would be no 2 year contract deal right ?

Read all the fine print before you sign!! Who knows what the carriers may try to slip in.

There will be a new 2 year contract - if you sign one!
 
Why not do the NEXT plan vs laying out full price today?
I just don't want my monthly bill elevated at all and be stuck to a contract. I rather pay a slightly smaller bill and not worry about paying it off.
I 100% went into the Apple Store on launch day and purchased 2 64Gb iPhone 5s' for AT&T at full price off contract for $849 each. I walked out of the store with them in the box unopened and nothing to do with a contract.

Now ... Tmobile's iphone is the unlocked model that can work on all GSM networks. This model was not available launch day last year.
Yea, will probably just try my luck in the store. I wanted to purchase this way online as soon as they go for sale though which is why I made the thread. I kind of feel like my local apple will sell out fast on the day of release. I also hate dealing with the long lines usually order online but i'm not doing a subsidized phone so its tricky as we see with all the different answers.
 
I just don't want my monthly bill elevated at all and be stuck to a contract. I rather pay a slightly smaller bill and not worry about paying it off.

Yea, will probably just try my luck in the store. I wanted to purchase this way online as soon as they go for sale though which is why I made the thread. I kind of feel like my local apple will sell out fast on the day of release. I also hate dealing with the long lines usually order online but i'm not doing a subsidized phone so its tricky as we see with all the different answers.
There is no contract with Next. It's simply spreading the full price payment of the phone into monthly playlets (without interest) instead of paying it all at once in one big chunk.
 
There is no contract with Next. It's simply spreading the full price payment of the phone into monthly playlets (without interest) instead of paying it all at once in one big chunk.

That is how I understand it. You can pay it next week, next month, next year, or over the term you get. Not a service contract at all. Just a payment plan.

AND, you can move to a new phone next year if you want, right?
 
There is no contract with Next. It's simply spreading the full price payment of the phone into monthly playlets (without interest) instead of paying it all at once in one big chunk.
Its a new type of contract. The moment you leave att you have to pay the phone in full as per the next agreement. The old contract you would have to pay the etf as per the agreement the moment you terminated service.
 
Its a new type of contract. The moment you leave att you have to pay the phone in full as per the next agreement. The old contract you would have to pay the etf as per the agreement the moment you terminated service.
Well, it's a financing agreement. In comparison to buying the phone outright it's mainly a difference of paying for the phone at once right away or paying for it monthly (and perhaps paying off the remaining balance earlie if needed or desired).
 
if you qualify for a subsidized upgrade, there is no option for you to buy the phone for full price. but if you're not upgrade eligible, the apple online store will certainly allow you to buy at full retail.

So many different answers here. Some say you can't, some say you can.
 
if you qualify for a subsidized upgrade, there is no option for you to buy the phone for full price. but if you're not upgrade eligible, the apple online store will certainly allow you to buy at full retail.
You should always be able to buy the phone outright for full price if you want to whether or not you are up for some upgrade or not.
 
You should always be able to buy the phone outright for full price if you want to whether or not you are up for some upgrade or not.

you should be able to, but the online store doesn't give you that option. if you're upgrade eligible, there's no option or button to click to buy for full price. that has to be done in store.
 
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