Really? 20º Celsius is a huge difference!. In the compound they use that bad?. Is there any website that explains in details how to do this process?
Actually, mine doesn't exceed 65º celsius.
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Really? 20º Celsius is a huge difference!. In the compound they use that bad?. Is there any website that explains in details how to do this process?
Actually, mine doesn't exceed 65º celsius.
Yep was hitting 70`s now at most it`s been 50ish topps, makes a huge difference to my legs lol!
Oh link for one is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKbEAlU8oOI
Easy enough to do, just be patient and careful
Cheers,
Oh link for one is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKbEAlU8oOI
Easy enough to do, just be patient and careful
Cheers,
I have two apple laptops, both bought years apart and recently I replaced the thermal compound on both. To say that the original application was beyond sloppy is an understatement. Both laptops now run much cooler, in line with the ~20 ºC degree drops others are mentioning.
But this is an 8600m GT thread so I'll talk about that card. Before I replaced the thermal paste with arctic silver I used to occasionally game, one thing that I noticed was that some of the games I played like L4D2 ran at 10 frames per second, which is beyond horrible performance, especially for such a capable card on a high end notebook. I researched online and everyone said that the drivers on the windows side were better than the OS X drivers and that had something to do with the awful performance. I was skeptical but I gave it a shot.
The performance under windows 7 was much better than the 10 frames per second I was getting under OS X, it was around 40 frames per second which was pretty good, and at least it was playable. All of this however was under the lowest possible settings for the game, both under OSX and under windows 7. Despite games being playable at 40 fps however, realistically they were not since the laptop would overheat so much under windows that it would put itself to sleep.
I decided that more was at play here than simple drivers causing the drop in performance so I removed the logic board to get to the heat sink and see what was wrong. Turns out that the thermal paste looked like it had been spit onto the chips, it was everywhere and extremely messy. There were lumps of it all over the chips and the heat sink. It truly is unbelievable how bad this was, and for a 3k notebook I would think that this would be unacceptable.
I figured it might be a one time think so I opened up my other macbook and I found the same thing. Needless to say, I cleaned everything up and replaced the thermal compound with arctic silver, put everything back together and fired it up. It came up quickly and what I saw surprised me, where my laptop would once idle at ~60+ ºC on a freezing day with freezing temps, it now idled in the upper 30s/low 40s on a hot summer day. The difference was truly remarkable. I of course put it to the test with something that would tax it... games. I tried both the same games under OSX and Windows, keep in mind that these are fully ported games and not cidered ones. I gave it a shot and fired it up, under OSX it went from 10 fps to 40fps, a remarkable improvement as it seemed the graphics card and the processor no longer needed to down-clock to avoid overheating. Under windows 7 the performance increase was even more striking. It went from 40fps to well over 100fps, I of course immediately changed all the settings and brought back all the effects and resolution I couldn't use before due to it overheating. The game still cruised by at over 40fps on it's lowest drops and well over 80fps normally which is playable enough, and more than acceptable given all the effects.
The computer it cool to the touch, where before I could cook a steak on it. Don't get me wrong, there are no miracles so of course it still heats up when pushed hard, but it no longer shuts off and when I'm done pushing it, it seems heat dissipation has improved greatly as it returns to normal temperatures rather quickly. I'm still using my 6 year old 8600M GT macbook pro, and it seems twice as fast now since it's no longer downclocking, I might just get a few more years out of it... provided the graphics card doesn't decide to fail now after all this time, so far it seems I've had great luck.
But this is an 8600m GT thread so I'll talk about that card. Before I replaced the thermal paste with arctic silver I used to occasionally game, one thing that I noticed was that some of the games I played like L4D2 ran at 10 frames per second, which is beyond horrible performance, especially for such a capable card on a high end notebook. I researched online and everyone said that the drivers on the windows side were better than the OS X drivers and that had something to do with the awful performance. I was skeptical but I gave it a shot.
The performance under windows 7 was much better than the 10 frames per second I was getting under OS X, it was around 40 frames per second which was pretty good, and at least it was playable. All of this however was under the lowest possible settings for the game, both under OSX and under windows 7. Despite games being playable at 40 fps however, realistically they were not since the laptop would overheat so much under windows that it would put itself to sleep.
I decided that more was at play here than simple drivers causing the drop in performance so I removed the logic board to get to the heat sink and see what was wrong. Turns out that the thermal paste looked like it had been spit onto the chips, it was everywhere and extremely messy. There were lumps of it all over the chips and the heat sink. It truly is unbelievable how bad this was, and for a 3k notebook I would think that this would be unacceptable.
I figured it might be a one time think so I opened up my other macbook and I found the same thing. Needless to say, I cleaned everything up and replaced the thermal compound with arctic silver, put everything back together and fired it up. It came up quickly and what I saw surprised me, where my laptop would once idle at ~60+ ºC on a freezing day with freezing temps, it now idled in the upper 30s/low 40s on a hot summer day. The difference was truly remarkable. I of course put it to the test with something that would tax it... games. I tried both the same games under OSX and Windows, keep in mind that these are fully ported games and not cidered ones. I gave it a shot and fired it up, under OSX it went from 10 fps to 40fps, a remarkable improvement as it seemed the graphics card and the processor no longer needed to down-clock to avoid overheating. Under windows 7 the performance increase was even more striking. It went from 40fps to well over 100fps, I of course immediately changed all the settings and brought back all the effects and resolution I couldn't use before due to it overheating. The game still cruised by at over 40fps on it's lowest drops and well over 80fps normally which is playable enough, and more than acceptable given all the effects.
The computer it cool to the touch, where before I could cook a steak on it. Don't get me wrong, there are no miracles so of course it still heats up when pushed hard, but it no longer shuts off and when I'm done pushing it, it seems heat dissipation has improved greatly as it returns to normal temperatures rather quickly. I'm still using my 6 year old 8600M GT macbook pro, and it seems twice as fast now since it's no longer downclocking, I might just get a few more years out of it... provided the graphics card doesn't decide to fail now after all this time, so far it seems I've had great luck.
Yes, I would say the entire process is under an hour. Just order everything you need (tools, paste... etc) and you're all set to go. ifixit is pretty good with instructions, should be a piece of cake.
Hello all,
Sorry to bump an old thread.
My wife is considering purchasing a mid/late 2007 MBP MA895LL/A from Macofalltrades
They want $500.00 for it. Her primary use will just be regular computing (word, excel, pages etc) and web surfing.
Should I just avoid this laptop all together?
Sorry to bump an old thread.
My wife is considering purchasing a mid/late 2007 MBP MA895LL/A from Macofalltrades
They want $500.00 for it. Her primary use will just be regular computing (word, excel, pages etc) and web surfing.
Should I just avoid this laptop all together?
I would avoid it...for a little bit more money (or the same amount if you shop around locally), you could probably get a unibody MacBook or MacBook Pro and have a sturdier design, not to mention even going near these issues. I upgraded a friend's Mid-2009 13" MacBook Pro (2.26GHz C2D) to 8GB RAM and an SSD and it's still a quite nice machine for even moderately demanding tasks, so I wouldn't necessarily avoid the early unibody models.
If you really want to get that particular machine, I'd guess you could get it for a bit less than that if you shop around.
Thanks for the reply.
I have used MOAT before with good results, I was asking due to stumbling across this thread about the nvidia graphic issue.
I will keep looking though.
$150?!??
Where are you finding those prices? Everywhere I look, I see them for around $500. This one even had a new battery installed.
There is a difference between how much you want to pay and how much you want to sell it for
That machine is SLOW and also too old - at that age its just the question of time when it fails, regardless the 8600m situation. You can get a 2011 MacBook air for around $700... which is a MUCH better deal.There is a difference between how much you want to pay and how much you want to sell it for
I am thinking to sell my MBP late 2007 17" hi-res matte 1920x1200, 2.6GHz, 4GB (up to 6GB), 200GB HDD 7200 RPM. It has Front Row remote control, a new logic board rev2 replaced by Apple a couple of months ago, a new battery, and according to Apple, it is certified to run Mavericks.
How much do you think I can sell it?
Thanks for the advice, but I have to set a realistic price before publishing it... I am tempted to ask 600 for it... Is it fair or too much?
I wouldn't pay that much. You should ask vpro though, she will probably gladly get it off your hands
P.S. No, seriously, I think that it won't be any problem at all to sell it for 600! People will buy it. I once sold a used iMac on ebay, out of warranty, for more than the refurbished one costed at Apple directly. This is in Switzerland though, people can be sometimes a bit careless with the money
Just make sure you write up a nice add, praising your item
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I wouldn't pay that much. You should ask vpro though, she will probably gladly get it off your hands
Loled at that, vpro does like her 17" models! Well so do I... I prefer unibody though.
OP
I'm not an expert in pricing these but I have learned that sometimes people pay crazy prices for stupid stuff. I saw a 2009 or so MacBook Pro go on ebay for $900, normal, even better condition or accessories models sold for $600. So basically you could potentially get away with a higher price then it's worth, but at least around here lots of people know what they are talking about and what they are getting. Though the hi res anti glare screen is a major plus (at least to me!), plus the faster processor and HDD. Also, I've heard apple prices are higher in Europe. So that could be a factor.
I wouldn't pay that much. You should ask vpro though, she will probably gladly get it off your hands
P.S. No, seriously, I think that it won't be any problem at all to sell it for 600! People will buy it. I once sold a used iMac on ebay, out of warranty, for more than the refurbished one costed at Apple directly. This is in Switzerland though, people can be sometimes a bit careless with the money
Mine is still under warranty until end of septembre ...
I might target Monaco, Lichtenstein, and Switzerland... They are tax havens...
Mine is still under warranty until end of septembre ...
I might target Monaco, Lichtenstein, and Switzerland... They are tax havens...
Just keep in mind that its not easy to mail an MBP into Switzerland if you are not in the country yourself - they usually open the mail on the border (expect 10% VAT + CHF 30 processing cost). Best way is to 'smuggle' it into Switzerland and send it with the local mail from there.
If I ship it to Switzerland, I understand the buyer will pay customs and any extra taxes, isn't it?
Yes, but then they probably won't buy it
You also have to take into account that shipping costs are insane. I have seen PC stores selling a similar MBP (with 3 month warranty and 500GB HDD) for around 650 euro inclusive shipping. In that light your offer is not very attractive