I have a MacBook Pro SR (2007), and the 8600 GT has not failed yet.........
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I have a MacBook Pro SR (2007), and the 8600 GT has not failed yet.........
I feel quite lucky to have avoided any problems so far with the 8600GT ...
Mine is a 2.2 ghz SR MBP sept 07 with 8600gt 128mb - 27 months old anyone beat this record?
Hmm...I got mine in August 2007 (2.4 SR MBP)......coconut battery says my mac is 29 months old. Based on that, I beat your record.
I bought my Penryn MBP in Feb 2008. I started having screen problems in October of this year. I thought it was a short the way it behaved - moving the screen caused flickering and distortion. If I could get it "just so" it'd go away. Sent it in for repairs under American Express extended warranty, and they replaced the logic board and it's fine now.
They never said what was really wrong, but I suspect the 8600M GT bug. Now I am wondering how long I have before it happens again!
They never said what was really wrong, but I suspect the 8600M GT bug. Now I am wondering how long I have before it happens again!
Does this start out happening every now and then and get progressively worse?
Just woke up my MBP and the screen looks like what everyone is posting. Hope this isn't the start of the end.
Just woke up my MBP and the screen looks like what everyone is posting. Hope this isn't the start of the end.
well after having me MBP back from repairs for about 3 weeks now, I just found out that my dvd drive is no longer detected on my system...
I have NOT changed anything at all and this is the first time hat ive used the DVD drove since taking it to Apple repair store.
Is this just coincidence that its not working after they opened it up or could this possibly be bad timing for me drive to die...? I inserted a movie dvd in to watch yesterday and it didnt register at all, opening DVD Player gave me the error of 'A valid DVD drive could not be found. [-70012]
In system profiler also says theres no ATA or disc burning devices attached.
I got it out via the put cardboard into slot to stop dvd from spinning on startup and spat it out fine.
Main question though, since I don't have any Apple Care remaining, would they agree to fix my current problem for free as i truly believe they made the boo boo. ???
Cheers
I have NOT changed anything at all and this is the first time hat ive used the DVD drove since taking it to Apple repair store.
Is this just coincidence that its not working after they opened it up or could this possibly be bad timing for me drive to die...? I inserted a movie dvd in to watch yesterday and it didnt register at all, opening DVD Player gave me the error of 'A valid DVD drive could not be found. [-70012]
In system profiler also says theres no ATA or disc burning devices attached.
I got it out via the put cardboard into slot to stop dvd from spinning on startup and spat it out fine.
Main question though, since I don't have any Apple Care remaining, would they agree to fix my current problem for free as i truly believe they made the boo boo. ???
Cheers
My MBP story is kind of an horror story...
I got my Santa Rosa MBP in august 2007 when they updated.
After a year the USB controller started to act weird. My keyboard, iSight, trackpad and infrared sensor were disconnecting and reconnecting at random times (I was seeing it thanks to growl) and my left USB port was completely dead. At the same time my superdrive was rejecting DVDs. I got my MBP to the apple store and they replaced the logic board, the LCD assembly and the superdrive.
A few months later, I started to have a random problem when my machine wouldn't boot back from sleep after I left it idle overnight or when I was carrying it in my backpack to school and it was cold outside. I went to the apple store but I wasn't able to reproduce the problem so I went back home. After many test I had been able to isolate the problem. It seemed like a thermal stress problem affecting the chipset or the graphic card, the machine wouldn't boot when cold (20-22 °C). I needed to do 3 PRAM reset in a row to heat it up enough so it would boot. I then went to the apple store to get my logic board replaced.
As if it wasn't enough this autumn I had to get back once again to the apple store for a non working superdrive. At the same time I got the LCD changed (it had a yellow tint in the bottom third) and the battery replaced because it was depleting way too fast to be from normal age.
During the last repairs I called apple care to get a replacement unit. I was told that I was right on the line where they start to consider giving a replacement but they had to repair my laptop before taking any action. I now have an open case number and I was told that if anything else was to break with my MBP I would get a free replacement.
So to summarize all that, the only original part in my laptop is the HDD...
logic board replacement x 2
LCD assembly replacement x 2
SuperDrive replacement x 2
Battery replacement x 1
I got my Santa Rosa MBP in august 2007 when they updated.
After a year the USB controller started to act weird. My keyboard, iSight, trackpad and infrared sensor were disconnecting and reconnecting at random times (I was seeing it thanks to growl) and my left USB port was completely dead. At the same time my superdrive was rejecting DVDs. I got my MBP to the apple store and they replaced the logic board, the LCD assembly and the superdrive.
A few months later, I started to have a random problem when my machine wouldn't boot back from sleep after I left it idle overnight or when I was carrying it in my backpack to school and it was cold outside. I went to the apple store but I wasn't able to reproduce the problem so I went back home. After many test I had been able to isolate the problem. It seemed like a thermal stress problem affecting the chipset or the graphic card, the machine wouldn't boot when cold (20-22 °C). I needed to do 3 PRAM reset in a row to heat it up enough so it would boot. I then went to the apple store to get my logic board replaced.
As if it wasn't enough this autumn I had to get back once again to the apple store for a non working superdrive. At the same time I got the LCD changed (it had a yellow tint in the bottom third) and the battery replaced because it was depleting way too fast to be from normal age.
During the last repairs I called apple care to get a replacement unit. I was told that I was right on the line where they start to consider giving a replacement but they had to repair my laptop before taking any action. I now have an open case number and I was told that if anything else was to break with my MBP I would get a free replacement.
So to summarize all that, the only original part in my laptop is the HDD...
logic board replacement x 2
LCD assembly replacement x 2
SuperDrive replacement x 2
Battery replacement x 1
^I would push for replacement, even if that requires you to call and wait on hold for hours until you get a favorable response. If you press hard enough considering all your issues they will replace it.
Because of the issues I had, Apple is replacing my out of warranty 2.4 Santa Rosa from June '07 with a new 2.8 unibody with the matte option. It took a few calls and lots of waiting but I got more than I asked for actually.
Because of the issues I had, Apple is replacing my out of warranty 2.4 Santa Rosa from June '07 with a new 2.8 unibody with the matte option. It took a few calls and lots of waiting but I got more than I asked for actually.
They generally don't replace the battery after the first year. How did you ask them to do it?
I told them that the charge was dropping really faster then what you should expect from a battery that is two years old. They ran a simple test (this test was monitoring battery discharge vs it's age) and it told them that my battery was defective (discharge rate was way above the usual rate). The charge was dropping of about 0,1% every seconds under almost no load. I found out the problem after I re-calibrated my battery and the health dropped from 80% down to about 35%.
There is a little mistake from my last post that I would like to correct. I just remembered that it's not the battery health that got my attention but the check battery that appeared when I upgraded to 10.6. I then checked the battery health and tried a calibration to get it back higher but it didn't worked so I went to the Apple Store.
Here's my MBP's Story
Just got my July 2007, Nvidia 256Mb 8600gt, 2.4GHz MBP back from repairs for the 2nd time. The first failure was in November 08 with all the typical symptoms - grainy video when graphics card got hot, artifacts appearing throughout screen.
At first Apple didn't want to cover it and wanted $350 to fix, but after pointing out the issue on their support site, they honered support page and fixed it for free. They replaced the main system board and superdrive - not sure the revision number.
Then in July 09 the screen suddenly stops displaying the main image and instead shows large colorful vertical lines. I was knee deep on a project and didn't have time to get it looked at and after discovering the 2nd monitor was still functioning, just ended up using it as a desktop for a few months.
Finally got around to dealing with Apple on this two weeks ago. The first person I talked with at Apple Support said it was no problem, they would repair it under warranty, and to just bring it in for pickup. Later, at Apple's genius bar and they gave me the whole it's not covered routine again. After talking with them a while they agreed to have a tech look it over. The tech calls later and explains it's not covered and is going to cost. I was very nice and tried to work through their process to figure out what the problem was. After all, the MBP was working great except for the screen. The tech ended up being very cool and accepted it for repair even though his tests indicated it was not the 8600 that failed.
They called a week later having got it back from repairs but the machine would simply shut off 30 seconds after booting so they had to ship it back. They called four days later and everything is working again but holy crap did they replace a lot of parts this time. They basically replaced almost everything in the computer - including the hard drive and battery??!! Seems to me they just got frustrated and replaced everything just to be safe.
The apple support people didn't notice the hard drive was replaced until I was shocked after reading it on the service form. Even then they didn't seem very surprised and I had to ask them to show me how to restore since they seemed to think it was common knowledge or something. Luckily I have TimeMachine so restoring the computer was rather painless, probably explains their attitude.
I have to give Apple a ton of credit for fixing this problem twice even though it was out of warranty. Though technically they stem from their own faulty hardware, a lesser company like Acer for example, would have told me to take a hike a long time ago.
I absolutely love my MBP and would like nothing more than to keep using it for another two years. However, have to admit to not having much confidence it will keep working.
Just got my July 2007, Nvidia 256Mb 8600gt, 2.4GHz MBP back from repairs for the 2nd time. The first failure was in November 08 with all the typical symptoms - grainy video when graphics card got hot, artifacts appearing throughout screen.
At first Apple didn't want to cover it and wanted $350 to fix, but after pointing out the issue on their support site, they honered support page and fixed it for free. They replaced the main system board and superdrive - not sure the revision number.
Then in July 09 the screen suddenly stops displaying the main image and instead shows large colorful vertical lines. I was knee deep on a project and didn't have time to get it looked at and after discovering the 2nd monitor was still functioning, just ended up using it as a desktop for a few months.
Finally got around to dealing with Apple on this two weeks ago. The first person I talked with at Apple Support said it was no problem, they would repair it under warranty, and to just bring it in for pickup. Later, at Apple's genius bar and they gave me the whole it's not covered routine again. After talking with them a while they agreed to have a tech look it over. The tech calls later and explains it's not covered and is going to cost. I was very nice and tried to work through their process to figure out what the problem was. After all, the MBP was working great except for the screen. The tech ended up being very cool and accepted it for repair even though his tests indicated it was not the 8600 that failed.
They called a week later having got it back from repairs but the machine would simply shut off 30 seconds after booting so they had to ship it back. They called four days later and everything is working again but holy crap did they replace a lot of parts this time. They basically replaced almost everything in the computer - including the hard drive and battery??!! Seems to me they just got frustrated and replaced everything just to be safe.
The apple support people didn't notice the hard drive was replaced until I was shocked after reading it on the service form. Even then they didn't seem very surprised and I had to ask them to show me how to restore since they seemed to think it was common knowledge or something. Luckily I have TimeMachine so restoring the computer was rather painless, probably explains their attitude.
I have to give Apple a ton of credit for fixing this problem twice even though it was out of warranty. Though technically they stem from their own faulty hardware, a lesser company like Acer for example, would have told me to take a hike a long time ago.
I absolutely love my MBP and would like nothing more than to keep using it for another two years. However, have to admit to not having much confidence it will keep working.
uhh ohh
woke me MBP up this morning to the grey screen of death with the darker grey notice area in centre of the screen all artifacty....
Soo, restarted the retarded lappy but started to half start then stop. Tried again this time starts without any bootup sound and just does nothing....
i can hear the fans going with main light on but not sure about the hard drive though, like its not doing much. Its different to the problem of the screen/gfx card dying as it did to me like 1 month ago and got it replaced under the extended warranty by apple, me don'ts have any Apple Care though
I have a feeling it may be a bigger problem this time.
But me MBP turned to $h1T after they fixed the dead screen, got it back with dvd drive not detected. Sooo off em.
now its Chrissy Eve and im stuck without a BIG part of my life, guess ill have to do more socializing/more outdoorsy stuff this Chrissy
Any ideas on the problem though... ?
Cheers fellas
Merry Chistmas by the way
woke me MBP up this morning to the grey screen of death with the darker grey notice area in centre of the screen all artifacty....
Soo, restarted the retarded lappy but started to half start then stop. Tried again this time starts without any bootup sound and just does nothing....
i can hear the fans going with main light on but not sure about the hard drive though, like its not doing much. Its different to the problem of the screen/gfx card dying as it did to me like 1 month ago and got it replaced under the extended warranty by apple, me don'ts have any Apple Care though
I have a feeling it may be a bigger problem this time.
But me MBP turned to $h1T after they fixed the dead screen, got it back with dvd drive not detected. Sooo off em.
now its Chrissy Eve and im stuck without a BIG part of my life, guess ill have to do more socializing/more outdoorsy stuff this Chrissy
Any ideas on the problem though... ?
Cheers fellas
Merry Chistmas by the way
All 2007, early 2008 MBP's with Nvidia Graphics are bad. Period. Anyone who has one of these Macbook Pro's with Nvidia Graphics should demand a replacement computer. It is my opinion that Apple knows that 100% of these machines are faulty and they end up causing complete logic board failures. My advise to anyone with a problem MBP should DEMAND a replacement. Do it in writing. Google MBP with Nvidia graphic issues, they are all over the web for at least a year and a half now, compile your evidence and mail it to Cupertino, tell them that this is unacceptable. That's my advise.
It would be really nice to have Apple replace all the previous generation MBPs, but that is not going to happen just because we demand it. Plenty of people do not have any issues with their computer. Apple will not replace these notebooks because of the possibility of failure. However, I do agree with you that once the known issue affects one's computer, it should be replaced with a new model rather than swapping in another potentially faulty GPU.
can you maybe post a pic of this when it happens? my cousin's mbp is doing something weird too, he bought his mbp 2 days after mine.
I will try. So far it happened only few times and I didn't had camera to take a picture(amazingly in screen captures, made with Grab, everything looks perfect).
My issue is that I don't have any issues using Snow Leopard; however, I cannot install Tiger anymore, it distorts the screen during installation process.
My local Apple-authorized retail store said their test showed green light and they're not going to be able to do anything because there's no issue. I however wanted to install Tiger because I wanted to run Final Cut Studio v1 which required Tiger, and therefore I ended up selling the FCS package.
This laptop is still only 2.5 years old so I'm still going to try to use it for a while. Time Machine backups every week, so I'm only going to loose very little in case this thing breaks.
Have you tried speaking with AppleCare or a Genius? Maybe one of those can offer you more help than the third party store. It's very strange that Tiger will not install. Are you trying to run both OS's?
Early 2008 MBP 17" model (bought in May 2008) just died on me this morning. Made an appointment, took it to the genius bar and he took it right in and told me to expect it back with a new logic board and new SuperDrive (stuck media, won't eject) in 1-3 days. I have to admit I was in a pissy mood all day because of this crap. Granted this is my first failure (for this mbp but not my first hardware failure) but I won't accept the second one without a fight. I'll ask for a replacement next time. This isn't really acceptable unless they are replacing logic boards with known non-defective cards.
Has anybody recieved a logic board within the last 8 months without failures again?
Has anybody recieved a logic board within the last 8 months without failures again?