What advantages, if any, would you say the iPad + Zagg slim have over a MacBook?
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So I've had my 12.9 pro for a week now, and...
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What advantages, if any, would you say the iPad + Zagg slim have over a MacBook?
I would say don't go for the 9,7", you love your keybord so much. If you go for the 9,7" you will have to get the smaller keyboard and that will have an impact on your typing experience. And of course you will compromise on the screen size which probably also won't be very nice, do many negatives coming from the 12,9".
Regarding giving up your iMac to go totally iPad, it sounds like you are already there. I did it 3.5 years ago and I have never looked back. I am a business manager with 12 staff and I love my Air 2, I am going for the 9,7" Pro now and particularly in that size because I travel a fair bit and walk around my offices and warehouses and like to have everything with me.
Regarding limitations; I find with iPad there is always a way, (depends on usage of course) but really I have found there have been no limitations with my usage and i do more than I ever thought I could do on computer.
My 2 cents,
Regarding giving up your iMac to go totally iPad, it sounds like you are already there. I did it 3.5 years ago and I have never looked back. I am a business manager with 12 staff and I love my Air 2, I am going for the 9,7" Pro now and particularly in that size because I travel a fair bit and walk around my offices and warehouses and like to have everything with me.
Regarding limitations; I find with iPad there is always a way, (depends on usage of course) but really I have found there have been no limitations with my usage and i do more than I ever thought I could do on computer.
My 2 cents,
Yep. I have my eye on those. But I'm waiting to see what is announced at WWDC in June before making the commitment to that combo. I think that there is a possibility (perhaps only slight) that Apple may do something with mouse support in an update to iOS. (especially now that the size of the 12.9 Pro is a great size and device for remote desktop for enterprise users)
We can only hope, but I don't hold my breath. I just saw this thread
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-made-me-buy-a-windows-hp-workstation.1970132/
I work in a small company where everybody has to contribute to be successful. It really seems from the outside that Apple has put on a lot of fat and is no more very efficient (in product development and inspiration).
Initially the same advantages a tablet has over a macbook, fires up quicker and better battery life. Can switch from a faux laptop user experience to a tablet experience.
For general data entry and typing based tasks it duplicates the same user experience as my 15" macbook except slightly lighter.
I'd say it's an OS update(mouse pointer) away and a few desktop class apps away from reducing the value of my macbook although as a creative I need many apps that are not available on IOS.
Does the Zagg detach easily when you want to use the iPad in tablet mode?
Personally, I don't need a mouse pointer on my iPad, but I agree that with an addition of a few more features to iOS, and if more software becomes available for it (personally, I want a good ePub editor), the iPad could be the only computer for many more people.
I've had to decide between an iPad Pro 12.9", a Surface Pro 4 and a MacBook. I ended up keeping the SP4. The only downside that one has is battery life.
As much as I wanted the IPP to become my main mobile device, it's way too limited to do any kind of serious work on it. But for people who don't use their computer for work, don't do their taxes on a computer, don't need to print out complex documents etc, it'll probably be enough as a primary computer.
As much as I wanted the IPP to become my main mobile device, it's way too limited to do any kind of serious work on it. But for people who don't use their computer for work, don't do their taxes on a computer, don't need to print out complex documents etc, it'll probably be enough as a primary computer.
The tablet detaches as easy as a surface pro appears(I've never used one) to detach from it's keyboard.
As far as the need for a mouse the "need" would become clearer once a "desktop" class app is available to make switching back and forth a better user experience.
Even doing general layout work requires some precise selector tools such as a mouse pointer with is more difficult with a finger or maybe even the pencil.
Well, I never do any layout work, or anything else that requires a mouse, so that's why I said "personally," I don't need a mouse.
I needed convergence in my life and that's where the iPad Pro fit in perfectly. When I had my rMBP as well as the iPad, I was always struggling to justify the existence of the rMBP since I already have a work laptop. I don't even really need the work laptop most of the time, I'm just required to have it.
I had a list of three or four things I thought I couldn't do with my iPad Pro that I would still need a laptop for. It turned out I was wrong on most of them and that list is down to one thing.
I don't like having devices in the house if I'm constantly trying to come up with reasons to use them. Seems a waste for me to own a $1500 laptop when my iPad has everything covered already. SO glad these Pro models came out.
I had a list of three or four things I thought I couldn't do with my iPad Pro that I would still need a laptop for. It turned out I was wrong on most of them and that list is down to one thing.
I don't like having devices in the house if I'm constantly trying to come up with reasons to use them. Seems a waste for me to own a $1500 laptop when my iPad has everything covered already. SO glad these Pro models came out.
But even after these comments I'm still on the fence about how heavy I prefer my tablet to be. The iPad pro as a tablet is heavy lol
It IS a bit heavy, and I hope Apple can get the weight down, but the screw size is prefect.
I find that I really enjoy both my MacBook Pro and my iPad Pro. They're great for different things. For example, the iPad Pro is fantastic for leisure activities like web browsing, email, Spotify, etc. I'm actually typing this on my iPad Pro right now. The 12" size feels larger than it really is. One must I will say is that you need a keyboard to make the most out of it. I have the Logitech Keys to Go and it's fantastic.
However, I do go to my MBP when I need to do actual tasks like web development and such. Those tools are simply not there in iOS. File management is a chore and things like Coda, Transmit, Photoshop, etc. are fantastic inside of OS X.
Ironically enough, I find that I miss using whichever I'm NOT on. If I'm on my MBP, I miss the simplicity of the iPad Pro whereas when I'm on my iPad Pro, I miss the functionality of the MBP. It's a nice problem to have.
I truly wasn't sure how I'd feel about the iPad Pro when I got it but I absolutely love it now. Get a case with a stand/flap, get the keyboard and you'll never look back. Apple's Smart Keyboard I haven't tried but the lack of function keys is a huge miss for me. The function keys on the Keys to Go are outstanding. It makes the whole experience much more like being on a Mac.
Parts of me hope that Apple will split the iPad line with the Pro series getting a more robust OS whereas the Mini and Air stay with iOS.
However, I do go to my MBP when I need to do actual tasks like web development and such. Those tools are simply not there in iOS. File management is a chore and things like Coda, Transmit, Photoshop, etc. are fantastic inside of OS X.
Ironically enough, I find that I miss using whichever I'm NOT on. If I'm on my MBP, I miss the simplicity of the iPad Pro whereas when I'm on my iPad Pro, I miss the functionality of the MBP. It's a nice problem to have.
I truly wasn't sure how I'd feel about the iPad Pro when I got it but I absolutely love it now. Get a case with a stand/flap, get the keyboard and you'll never look back. Apple's Smart Keyboard I haven't tried but the lack of function keys is a huge miss for me. The function keys on the Keys to Go are outstanding. It makes the whole experience much more like being on a Mac.
Parts of me hope that Apple will split the iPad line with the Pro series getting a more robust OS whereas the Mini and Air stay with iOS.
This is the only functionality from the zagg setup I'd possibly complain about.
With the iPad air 2 the belkin code pro pretty much had every feature I'd like and i hope they make a version for the iPad pro line as well
Apple products in a nutshell right there
Day 2 of using the zagg slim book keyboard so far is awesome..... As a laptop experience.
Maybe used my iPad Pro as a tablet once since adding the keyboard.
Does this mean a older generation MacBook Air with similar specs would be a better option? I already have a MacBook.
Maybe used my iPad Pro as a tablet once since adding the keyboard.
Does this mean a older generation MacBook Air with similar specs would be a better option? I already have a MacBook.
LOL. The reason I have iPads is I hated having keyboards on my lap when I was relaxing and trying to read. From the very first moment I started using laptops, I was wishing the screen would detach so I could just use the screen part. So if you don't have that urge to just have a tablet, maybe the smaller laptops like the 11" MBA or the retina MacBook is for you? I can't say anything about the differences between those two, as I haven't used either.
The reason I love the ipp/Apple Smart Keyboard combo so much better than a laptop is the fact that it sits so much closer to me than a laptop. Yes you still have a keyboard there, but there is much less depth, which means the screen is closer to you. I used the ASK and ipp for the last month and when I used a laptop the other day, the first thing I thought was wow, the screen is much further away.
I also wanted to touch everything I wanted to select, and the trackpad felt almost like more work than just touching my selection. Muscle memory is a funny thing. When I first got my ipp it nearly drove me crazy to not have a mouse or trackpad. Now, I am the complete opposite.
Probably. But it depends upon the apps you use. Looks like you land on the notebook-side of the converged device divide.
I have had keyboards for my iPads ever since the first day of the iPad 1 with Apple's keyboard dock. I have never become accustomed to touching the screen when a keyboard is present. For me, keyboard and mouse/trackpad/trackpoint go together.
Looks like you land on the tablet-side of the converged device divide.
So that explains why for me I need both the smart cover and smart keyboard. When I'm in the touch-oriented highly interactive mode, I prefer the smart cover, but when I'm about plowing forward in work mode, I prefer the smart keyboard and mouse (if/when it becomes available).
I also wanted to touch everything I wanted to select, and the trackpad felt almost like more work than just touching my selection. Muscle memory is a funny thing. When I first got my ipp it nearly drove me crazy to not have a mouse or trackpad. Now, I am the complete opposite.[/QUOTE]
When I use my iMac I tend to want to touch the screen to do things. I know I can't, but sometimes I just want to touch what I want because it's easier. I think that's why the thought of doing away with the iMac works for me. I've just become accustomed to using an iPad more. It really is all in what you're used to/comfortable with.
When I use my iMac I tend to want to touch the screen to do things. I know I can't, but sometimes I just want to touch what I want because it's easier. I think that's why the thought of doing away with the iMac works for me. I've just become accustomed to using an iPad more. It really is all in what you're used to/comfortable with.
I think it's more of a preference of using a product in a laptop format like a laptop instead of a tablet not so much the apps I use. I actually like the keyboard short cuts IOS 9 has implemented.
The reason I mention apps is because if you are using the keyboard nearly exclusively and using keyboard shortcuts, those are still best done on a MacBook Air...except if the software you use on the iPad doesn't have an equivalent on OSX.
Perhaps not entirely so: I always have the keyboard attached to my IPP, but I still prefer it over a 12"rMB or MBA. Simple reason is I can fold the keyboard to the back and rotate the display 90˚ and read on it like paper. You wouldn't want to try to do that with a rMB of MBA....
But reading portrait A4 makes my life so much easier when reading 500+ pages per week, 42 weeks a year.
That's all well and good, but that is not a use case that @eyeseeyou mentioned as his reason.Perhaps not entirely so: I always have the keyboard attached to my IPP, but I still prefer it over a 12"rMB or MBA. Simple reason is I can fold the keyboard to the back and rotate the display 90˚ and read on it like paper. You wouldn't want to try to do that with a rMB of MBA....
But reading portrait A4 makes my life so much easier when reading 500+ pages per week, 42 weeks a year.