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So many "weird" business decisions in such a short time
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Actually, this business decision makes 100% sense. Updating the ipad after the holidays was always silly. Not to mention, it resulted in people returning their iPads and waiting it out for the upgrade in 3 months.
Whereas, an update before the holidays allows people to buy the latest and greatest as a gift, and use it all year too.
Whereas, an update before the holidays allows people to buy the latest and greatest as a gift, and use it all year too.
This makes more sense than anything else I've read. Especially point #1. The clean break from the 30 pin makes tons of sense, explains why this all seemed a little rushed after they just released the iPhone 5.
Use it *all year* LOL
Well yes over the year.
I am talking about people who would update their gadgets frequently. Any one who buys (or receives) a gadget and keeps it for years needs not worry about the cycles or updates.
I think the move to A6 has a lot more to do with the fact that it's an Apple design than anything else. Cook realizes the trouble that being so entangled with competing companies could cause. The more of the process that Apple owns, the better. There's no reason for any company to delay taking that kind of control.
Moving to the Lightning connector as quickly as possible is also sensible. I don't know what exactly will come from the new connector, but I can't help but think they've got something up their sleeves for next year and it will suddenly do more than just transfer data and charge. In order to introduce something game changing they'll need to have as large an installed base as possible though.
Today was just another indication that the post-Jobs Apple is increasingly governed by bean counters and bottom lines.
Tim Cook & Co. continue to whittle away at Apple's DNA in the name of sales. Fading are the days of the RDF and the showmanship fueled frenzy for new releases.
I used to spend time wondering what Apple would do next. Now I spend more time wondering why they did what they did...from hardware release to odd software changes. The entire operation seems to have lost some focus.
Tim Cook & Co. continue to whittle away at Apple's DNA in the name of sales. Fading are the days of the RDF and the showmanship fueled frenzy for new releases.
I used to spend time wondering what Apple would do next. Now I spend more time wondering why they did what they did...from hardware release to odd software changes. The entire operation seems to have lost some focus.
Pride goeth before the fall.
Apple these days is reminding more and more of Microsoft circa late-90's. Didn't we used to make fun of them?
I totally agree with this, HUGE disappointment that iPad Mini doesn't have an A6 chip. These guys better not get too used to standing up there repeating words like 'incredible' if they don't want it to backfire. They really could've waited with iPad to do a nice 8.5" deal WITH an A6 chip in 2013, they didn't need to do this so soon after High-Res iPad. Got folks all confused about '2', '3', '4', hell, even Tim got tongue twisted up there in the end. Got store staff overworked too, starting to get their knickers in a twist when you need them for something other than making a purchase.
Cook needs to take it all a bit slower, competition's way back there and will remain so even if Apple does yearly / bi-yearly launches. They need to stagger the launches, like the new MacBook / MBP now, new iPad in April, iPod / iPhone in July, etc.
In my opinion they have done a pretty smart move yesterday.
Why???
1) The iMac, finally a new one after more than 530 days without refresh. The majority will go for the new one, some won't because of missing ODD or "heat issues" they might get when running 450 Apps at the same time!
2) The Mac Mini, good upgrade, still able to upgrade things by DIY.
3) The iPad Mini, will go off the shelves like free beer on October Fest. Yes, the price is a bit to high, but it is Apple, what did you expect? I think if they would have priced it at US $ 279.00 the would have no competition!
4) The 4th Gen iPad. That one is a bit weird, especially for those who just bought recently an iPad3. But, and this one is the main thing, they just pissed on Microsoft and there new tablet coming out! Don't you see that they had to do this to stay ahead of them?
Overall, from all the products that were released in the past 2 months, the only one they could have left out is the iPod Nano. All the other ones make sense.
And one more thing, if you guys write too many products released, for whom? Are you all planning to but now an iPhone5, iPad 4th Gen., iPad Mini, iMac, iPod Touch and iPod Nano?
I don't think so! I for example am happy with my 4S and the iPad 2. I was looking for the new iMac and maybe next year I gonna get an iPad Mini. But not all together.
Apple is just giving somethign for everyone, not just one updated product for one of their consumer group!
cheers guys
Why???
1) The iMac, finally a new one after more than 530 days without refresh. The majority will go for the new one, some won't because of missing ODD or "heat issues" they might get when running 450 Apps at the same time
!2) The Mac Mini, good upgrade, still able to upgrade things by DIY.
3) The iPad Mini, will go off the shelves like free beer on October Fest. Yes, the price is a bit to high, but it is Apple, what did you expect? I think if they would have priced it at US $ 279.00 the would have no competition!
4) The 4th Gen iPad. That one is a bit weird, especially for those who just bought recently an iPad3. But, and this one is the main thing, they just pissed on Microsoft and there new tablet coming out! Don't you see that they had to do this to stay ahead of them?
Overall, from all the products that were released in the past 2 months, the only one they could have left out is the iPod Nano. All the other ones make sense.
And one more thing, if you guys write too many products released, for whom? Are you all planning to but now an iPhone5, iPad 4th Gen., iPad Mini, iMac, iPod Touch and iPod Nano?
I don't think so! I for example am happy with my 4S and the iPad 2. I was looking for the new iMac and maybe next year I gonna get an iPad Mini. But not all together.
Apple is just giving somethign for everyone, not just one updated product for one of their consumer group!
cheers guys
Thanks to the leaks which are plastered all over the internet months before any event date (read month) is announced.
There are virtually no surprises in terms of hardware these days. You already know what to expect, what's coming, and what is not.
Phil Schiller, with reference to the iPad Mini hiding behind the 4th Gen iPad, remarked something on the lines of "you probably know what this is that you are delighted". Biggest element of surprise from the event gone. You think it would have made any difference if they announced iPad mini before all the mac products? None, given the leaks and near certain facts which we still like to call rumors.
Well said, sir!
+1
Apple was seemingly locked into that annual release cycle which was arguably not timed very well, when they released the iPad 1st generation. It was a cool new device, first in its category and IMO was released when it was ready to be released.
Its a good thing that this cycle is broken and the timely refresh will perhaps bring more people to Apple stores for holiday purchases. I am thinking that we will see the 5th Generation iPad in the second half of the year, perhaps around same time. Or atleast there will be no impatience, if the next gen iPad does not come in spring. Clever move by Apple to buy more time for the next gen product
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I think it makes sense to update their entire iRange at roughly the same time; especially just before Christmas!
Apple can't win no matter what they do
It seems as if you guys are never satisfied.
If Apple doesn't release something everyone goes apeshiz and whines and complains.
If they release something faster then your expecting everyone goes apeshiz and whines and complains.
Nobody complains when Sony brings out a new computer laptop every fifteen minutes. Apple is not on your schedule.
There are very good reasons to bring out the new ipad, when they did. The whole point was to introduce the lightning cables to all of the devices
Now if you don't see the need to upgrade your ipad right now, you know what will happen? Your still going to have a great Ipad to use.
I was pretty happy with todays announcements. A lot of items got updated, and right before the holidays... doesn't sound like too weird of a business decision to me.
It seems as if you guys are never satisfied.
If Apple doesn't release something everyone goes apeshiz and whines and complains.
If they release something faster then your expecting everyone goes apeshiz and whines and complains.
Nobody complains when Sony brings out a new computer laptop every fifteen minutes. Apple is not on your schedule.
There are very good reasons to bring out the new ipad, when they did. The whole point was to introduce the lightning cables to all of the devices
Now if you don't see the need to upgrade your ipad right now, you know what will happen? Your still going to have a great Ipad to use.
I was pretty happy with todays announcements. A lot of items got updated, and right before the holidays... doesn't sound like too weird of a business decision to me.
This. Tim's running it like the MBA he is. More products. Cheaper quality. More money.
The dumbest thing is that he doesn't realize he needs to put out useful, cutting edge products, with the finest quality.
He's trying to sell the Apple brand, not a great product.
Guys a loser. I wish Steve Jobs was here.
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I disagree. Tim's not doing a good job at all. Apple is going down the drain. Ipad mini is crap.
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No worries the ipad mini II coming to a store near you in 6 weeks.
Terms and conditions: product only available to previous owners of the ipad mini.
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No worries the ipad mini II coming to a store near you in 6 weeks for the same price! Updated camera and new colors!
Terms and conditions: product only available to previous owners of the ipad mini.
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I can't comment on Apple's other decisions but the Mini does fill an important gap in Apple's lineup. They have big ambitions in publishing but until now have had no device suitable for armchair reading.
So the stock going up $200 in one year is going down the drain? As a large share holder Im very happy with Tim.
Personally Steve was not a good man. But he was a great businessman and executor. Although he was cold and cruel personally, his customers felt the care and respect.
In contrast, personally Tim is nice and gentle, but you can judge his current business decisions.
Really?
Except the iPhone manufacturing/ scratching issue perhaps, I wonder what makes you say cheaper quality.