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If they were waiting until July to announce, then they'll ship in August. I think it likely means a longer delay, since they clearly meant to launch them at WWDC then pulled the plug. They'll want to give themselves more time and ship September at earliest.
The 2018's were announced July 12th, 2018 and available to purchase same day and in store the next day or two. Probably not happening this time around with the chip shortages!
 
If they were waiting until July to announce, then they'll ship in August. I think it likely means a longer delay, since they clearly meant to launch them at WWDC then pulled the plug. They'll want to give themselves more time and ship September at earliest.

What makes you think Apple "clearly meant to launch them at WWDC"?

Even 6 months ago, Kuo was saying Q3.
 
I believe they do not "do what they want" at all - or they would have done so.
Huh?

You don't think Apple does what Apple wants to do?

  • They would have switched to M* (whatever) day one (last November)
  • They would have shown off the new iMac with a processor that is suitable for a desktop instead of a mobile one
  • They would offer more RAM for the M1 SoC
Sounds more like Apple isn't doing what you want them to do as quickly as you want them to do it...

There's good reason to have a staged transition, the M1 is just fine for the lower tier iMac's apparent target market, as is max 16GB RAM. Intel MBA & MBP two port models maxed at the same 16GB RAM limit as they do on AS.

My guess is that there are / were difficulties to overcome with "the next level". Which is why they chose the M1 SoC for the iMac. A choice I find very strange. Why put a processor / SoC that needs so little energy into a machine that has no energy constraints whatsoever?
I guess that even though there are a lot of rumours, they simply are not ready yet to go the next step.

You seem to be forgetting that there's two tiers of iMacs; smaller & larger. Only the smaller tier has transitioned, with the larger tier yet to do so. Same with the two-port vs four-port MBPs, and what was originally one tier of mini has apparently been split into two tiers as well.

I expect your more powerful, higher TDP, more RAM Apple Silicon processor will find its way into a 27 or 30" iMac soon enough, along with finding its way into four port MBPs and the upper tier mac mini's. Just a matter of when.
 
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Little bit disappointing but not the end of the world to me as just more toys really that I don’t actually need.
 
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Personally I was holding out for this event before I pulled the trigger I think now I am just going to go with the M1 MBP and maybe upgrade in a couple of years when the redesign has aged a bit and all the ‘redesign’ issues are sorted out.
Same here, but with the Mini - just wanted to make sure there wasn’t a new model imminent before getting the current M1.

M1 16/512 Mini on order tomorrow...
 
Yeah it’s looking like an October/November launch for new MBP’s doubt we will see then until then
YES!

Last year was November deliveries for both iPhone and new M1 Macs.

I remember, I pre-ordered the iPhone 12 Pro and M1 Mini in late October and received it in November.
 

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Here was my prediction: release in late July to early August so that they could hit the "back to school" season...

I think I may have been right...I think we will see another ~ 1 hour keynote for these new MacBook Pros in July...
I don’t think so they might aswell wait for miniLED to be more available at this point
 
I was quite sure that the new hardware would be at least mentioned at WWDC, so it’s a bit if a bummer.

Now there are two announcements dates I’d consider likely. Either a special announcement in July/August or an October/November event together with M2. Still, I’d think that Apple would want to have a separate event for announcing new prosumer hardware.
 
I believe they do not "do what they want" at all - or they would have done so.

  • They would have switched to M* (whatever) day one (last November)
  • They would have shown off the new iMac with a processor that is suitable for a desktop instead of a mobile one
  • They would offer more RAM for the M1 SoC
  • ... and so on
My guess is that there are / were difficulties to overcome with "the next level". Which is why they chose the M1 SoC for the iMac. A choice I find very strange. Why put a processor / SoC that needs so little energy into a machine that has no energy constraints whatsoever?
I guess that even though there are a lot of rumours, they simply are not ready yet to go the next step.
I doubt there will ever be an Apple Silicon chip that needs to be plugged in to the wall. They have proven that the M1 beats the Intel chips that required "no energy constraints whatsoever."
 
The problem I see with this delay to July or even later is that they were supposed to come in spring, just a few months after the first M1, and now we are already going to almost 2 months away from the M2 being released in September along the A15.

Unless chip shortage really affects them and they decide to go only for A15 for iPhones in September, but still M2 for MBA/MB are just "a bunch" CPUs compared to the massive amount they need for iPhones so it wouldn't make much difference.
 
The problem I see with this delay to July or even later is that they were supposed to come in spring, just a few months after the first M1, and now we are already going to almost 2 months away from the M2 being released in September along the A15.

Unless chip shortage really affects them and they decide to go only for A15 for iPhones in September, but still M2 for MBA/MB are just "a bunch" CPUs compared to the massive amount they need for iPhones so it wouldn't make much difference.

Where was it communicated that "they were supposed to come in spring"?

If anything, it makes sense the 14- and 16-inch Pro come with M2 in fall/winter 2021.

Consumers buying MacBook Air and iMac can deal with non-native software. Therefore, Apple launched those devices with M1 first. Commercial users want to wait for all the native software to be available. Waiting for M2 to come isn't a problem for that group.
 
Didn't last year they said there were still new Intel machines upcoming for another two years? It's been one year now and I don't recall any new Intel Macs. That 16 inch Macbook Pro is almost going to be 2 years old by the time an update arrives!
 
Didn't last year they said there were still new Intel machines upcoming for another two years? It's been one year now and I don't recall any new Intel Macs. That 16 inch Macbook Pro is almost going to be 2 years old by the time an update arrives!
You are right. Maybe they forgot...... ;)

It is very obvious where the priorities lie after this WWDC. Everything announced seems to be for the consumer......
 
What makes you think Apple "clearly meant to launch them at WWDC"?

Even 6 months ago, Kuo was saying Q3.
Announce them at WWDC, ship them in July, which is Q3.

Optimally, they would have done that from a business perspective. From a product perspective, they probably just weren’t ready or there were supply constraints for obvious reasons.
 
I was quite sure that the new hardware would be at least mentioned at WWDC, so it’s a bit if a bummer.

Now there are two announcements dates I’d consider likely. Either a special announcement in July/August or an October/November event together with M2. Still, I’d think that Apple would want to have a separate event for announcing new prosumer hardware.
Agreed— either very unusual July/Aug event or Oct/Nov, shipping with Monterey by EOY.
 
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