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Good call on the 16. My M1 8gig Mini is not cutting the mustard. With no new hardware announced today I need to figure out what to do about that!
In January, Kuo predicted launch in Q3. More recently, he said 2H'21.
What that essentially means is, July and August are out the window. Apple analysts usually say 2H because they're not certain if it's Sept, Oct, or Nov. If there was a realistic possibility of July, they will say Q3.
I suspect the original timeline was Sept but mini LED delays pushed it out to Oct/Nov.
Which could mean that as of January, they were slated to launch this summer at WWDC and ship in July— Q3– but when production slipped due to mini-LED, Kuo was unsure so he updated his prediction for 2H’21, which now means Oct/Nov.
Still think they would have wanted to be shipping by July/August to make the back to school/work season so that was likely an original target date. But mini-LED and the Taiwanese chip shortage caused delays.
Sadly, we’ll probably never know for sure. But we will likely get a reliable leaked report sometime soon on an updated release.
Almost a zero chance these were scheduled for WWDC at any recent point, especially not January.
The best info we have is from the supplier hack/leak which showed the schematics of the new MBP and that it was only in an early production prototype phase as of March. While I'm not a manufacturing expert, it seemed obvious at the time that a launch wasn't likely until later in the year.
No tech publications seem to focus on this detail, but it made a WWDC launch a known impossibility using any sort of engineering logic, unless Apple was planning on announcing it with a 2-3 month lead time for orders (unlikely.) I had this discussion with people several months ago after the leak. Everyone seems to have forgotten this info...
Disagree. Original Q3 predictions mean they could have shipped as soon as July. Were the schematics dated March?
I don’t think any of us actually know or will know when the launch was slated to be. All we know is that Apple could have sold a TON of them before the back to school run up and has announced new MacBooks in summers past and so they could have done that this year if stars aligned. Alas, with mini-LED, pandemic, and global blah-blah, they didn’t.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they come before September but at this point it could also be late November
IIRC the schematics were dated in March and they were from the EVT stage -> some YouTuber extrapolated the timeline to suggest that this indicated a July launch would be plausible.
I revisited Gurman's report from a few weeks ago the exact verbiage is "Redesigned MacBook Pros are expected to debut as soon as early this summer." Debut in this instance would mean an announcement rather than a ship date, and early summer would essentially be June 21 - July 21. Gurman is usually to be trusted so I'm holding out a little hope for a July event and August ship date. Anything after that is October-November.
Honestly I think is for the best. Was I a bit disappointed while watching live? Yes of course. But honestly speaking I'd rather have an M2(X) MBP based on the A15 uArch in the fall, rather than an M1(X) MBP based on the A14 now.
As someone who was initially not very excited about the switch to Apple Silicon, one of my major concerns was that the Mac would always be one generation behind the iPhone (just buttressed with more cores like the iPad Pro was for most of its life). Also, it'd be a pretty low blow for Apple to release an iMac just a short while earlier with chips far inferior to the MBP.
As someone who was initially not very excited about the switch to Apple Silicon, one of my major concerns was that the Mac would always be one generation behind the iPhone (just buttressed with more cores like the iPad Pro was for most of its life). Also, it'd be a pretty low blow for Apple to release an iMac just a short while earlier with chips far inferior to the MBP.
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Ah right, is that a RAM issue? I’m tempted to get the 8gb version as it’s available on Amazon, so significantly cheaper, but after reading about SSD wear concerns over disk swap, and bad performance with the Affinity apps I’m most likely spending a bit more on the 16gb via Apple.
As per others, I was very disappointed with yesterday's WWDC. My gut feeling was that the presentation was padded out with filler material; but perhaps I'm being a little harsh given the pandemic.
I'm wanting to move from Windows 10 WSL2 to developing (Laravel mainly with PHP Storm) on MAC. I had hoped for either a new MB Pro 14 or 16.
I might end up ordering a Mac Mini M1 16GB, as I need two external screens for my workflow (which I understand the current M1 Macbooks do not support officially).
I don't need a laptop, but it would be nice to have the flexibility given it sounds like I could pretty much use one of the upcoming machines as a desktop anyway.
I'm wanting to move from Windows 10 WSL2 to developing (Laravel mainly with PHP Storm) on MAC. I had hoped for either a new MB Pro 14 or 16.
I might end up ordering a Mac Mini M1 16GB, as I need two external screens for my workflow (which I understand the current M1 Macbooks do not support officially).
I don't need a laptop, but it would be nice to have the flexibility given it sounds like I could pretty much use one of the upcoming machines as a desktop anyway.
Re-check the swap/SSD threads - reports are that it seems fixed for most folks with 11.4
Hadn't heard of issues with Affinity apps, but I don't use Affinity Photo much. Thought they were native?
Correct - max one external display even in clamshell mode with the current M1 MBP/MBA. Unless you go with DisplayLink.
I find working with my MBP open connected to my 27" 1440p display works quite well, if you wished to consider if that'd work for your needs. Maybe not though.
Somehow I knew not to sell my 2 year old $2500 16" MBP in hopes of WWDC YouTubers predictions and the click bait rumors that everyone said would...
So glad I have a working 16" MBP.......
In the meantime, I do love both my M1 Mini and M1 iMac both with 8GB Unified Memory - runs so much better than my awful Intel 16GB, 32GB & 64GB machines that expends so much heat, throttling and fan noise!
So glad I have a working 16" MBP.......
In the meantime, I do love both my M1 Mini and M1 iMac both with 8GB Unified Memory - runs so much better than my awful Intel 16GB, 32GB & 64GB machines that expends so much heat, throttling and fan noise!
Apple has generally moved away from hardware announcements during their developers conference, so I can't say that I'm surprised or even disappointed.
This would be less annoying if they weren't leaving 2013-2014 high-end Mac owners in the lurch with no current upgrade path...especially when most of those models were cut off for arbitrary (read: money) reasons...
It's not like 15" MacBook Pro owners had many upgrade options from 2016-2019, and by the time the 16" came out it was obvious the jump to ARM was on the horizon.
It's not like 15" MacBook Pro owners had many upgrade options from 2016-2019, and by the time the 16" came out it was obvious the jump to ARM was on the horizon.
They are, but depends what you’re doing with them, for example I’ve seen complaints on slow speeds when working on large files in Photo, and Publisher on 8gb Mini’s, compared with users with 16gb.
Again, disk swap will be more active when working on larger files.
Believe me I’d love to be proved wrong - it’d save me three hundred quid if I could get away with a 8/512 Mini via Amazon, rather than a 16gb Apple upgrade.
Are you using any graphic apps on the 8gb Mini?
Happy with my 16” MBP, no intention of getting a new one, but planning on an M1 Mini for desktop use.
Huh? 2017 and 2019 had new hardware products released (MacBook Pros, iMac Pro, Mac Pro, XDR Display, etc), and 2020 released the Apple Silicon DTK
FWIW: I just opened a 20MP raw image in Affinity Photo on my 16GB memory M1 MBP; without doing any editing or anything, Activity Monitor shows 2.35GB memory used. I can imagine that'd jump even higher were I doing various layers and wanted to work with multiple images at a time.
Also - Same image opened in Photoshop 2021 and Activity Monitor shows 3.04GB, so it's not like Affinity is being a memory hog IMHO.
So just on that little datapoint I'd suggest you plan on choosing a 16GB memory system since you plan on doing photo editing and desktop publishing.
I don't know if Apple sells refurbished systems where you are (UK?) but if they do that'd be an option for saving some money.
Thanks for checking - I can push the Affinity apps well above 8gb on my 16” MBP, maybe the M1 is doing something different.
The Affinity staff poster recommended 16gb, which is why I thought I’d need it: https://forum.affinity.serif.com/in...oor-performance-on-macos-and-apple-m1/page/2/
I’m tossing up between an 8gb short-term fix, vs 16gb longer term.
Definitely considering a refurb too...
What happens if you open 10 images? 20? If you have a possibility, please try it out, I'd be very curious about the result.