So pissed off at apple...ridiculous.

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Dropped serious coin on a 2.9/1TB/32GB with the 560 and now just what..2 months later they release a new video card?
 
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Jimgpayne

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It's a never ending cycle. You should be at peace with what you purchased. If it was 5 months or 10-12 months, you knew it was coming. It always does. Enjoy what you have now and for the future.
But you have to admit... they just refreshed the 15” MBP last quarter. So it is highly unusual for Apple to make such a high-profile change on a platform they just introduced.
 

IngerMan

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But you have to admit... they just refreshed the 15” MBP last quarter. So it is highly unusual for Apple to make such a high-profile change on a platform they just introduced.
You are considering this high profile. It will not affect many users. Many purchase this product because it is the only 15" they offer.

We don't have the results in what the improvement will be, but i doubt it is as big improvement as going to the 6 cores. Just think if they went 8 cores and Vega, then you can complain
 

SDColorado

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If I recall, the last time Apple did a spec update so quickly was with an iPhone model and didn't Jobs later offer customers a rebate? Or is my memory of this flaky?


Didn’t these cards just become available to the public?
No. They are integrated with the logic board. There is no way to upgrade these after the sale without replacing the entire logic board.
 

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No. They are integrated with the logic board. There is no way to upgrade these after the sale without replacing the entire logic board.
I’m sorry if I wasn’t clear. Weren’t these chips just released to OEMs? Are these actually available on any laptops on the market today? Were they available when Apple last updated the Pro line?

If they weren’t available, this thread is based on the idea of MACRUMORS forum members being upset that Apple is actually offering the latest tech in a timely fashion. This would be an amazing turn of events for this forum.
 

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In another thread, someone mentioned Apple told them that they were able to come in when the new Vega GPU comes out and trade in his current highly-spec'ed MBP and pay the difference to get a brand new one with the new GPU. Not sure how true this is, but if it is, it will win over a bunch of 15" owners who spent more than $3000-4000 on their machine.

For me on the other hand, I'm not super upset since I bought the base 15" MBP (came from a 13"). When the new redesign comes out in 2020-2021, I will highly consider getting a spec'ed out 15" MBP then depending on what they change / offer.
 

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I’m sorry if I wasn’t clear. Weren’t these chips just released to OEMs? Are these actually available on any laptops on the market today? Were they available when Apple last updated the Pro line?

If they weren’t available, this thread is based on the idea of MACRUMORS forum members being upset that Apple is actually offering the latest tech in a timely fashion. This would be an amazing turn of events for this forum.
Sorry, I missunderstood. I thought you were asking if they are available as an upgrade.

The Radeon Pro Vega 16 and Radeon Pro 20 were announced at the October 30 event. They are currently not available options and are advertised as "New Options Coming Late November."
 

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Try calling Apple support and complaining about it. They are surprisingly willing to make people happy. They replaced my broken refurbished 2012 rMBP with a brand new 2015 model when it was 2 years out of warranty.
 
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Sorry, I missunderstood. I thought you were asking if they are available as an upgrade.

The Radeon Pro Vega 16 and Radeon Pro 20 were announced at the October 30 event. They are currently not available options and are advertised as "New Options Coming Late November."
It’s still more then that. There is no other laptop on the market that offers these GPUs and AMD (the GPU manufacturer) has only revealed them yesterday. So they are brand new and exclusive.
 
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Dropped serious coin on a 2.9/1TB/32GB with the 560 and now just what..2 months later they release a new video card?
I fully understand your frustration, but you have to realise - Apple is in a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation here.

If they held off Vega for the next iteration, people would be furious that “it’s been 8 months since the new cards were available and they still sell the old Radeons”, etc. If they release it now, people get angry that something better came so soon after their purchase.

The good news is your MacBook Pro is still great, still a beast and will continue to work well.

Apple would certainly like to depend less on outside factors and I guess one day (possibly sooner than later) we’ll have Macs running Apple designed CPUs and GPUs and then the release situation will be similar to iOS devices.
 

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Dropped serious coin on a 2.9/1TB/32GB with the 560 and now just what..2 months later they release a new video card?
Why are you pissed, do you need a more powerful GPU? Does the MBP fail to deliver in how it functions? Is the laptop suddenly a paperweight because it does not have the VEGA

Don't sweat the small stuff and be content with your purchase. If you needed a more powerful laptop, or GPU, then either sell your MBP and buy that, or sell your laptop and buy a PC laptop with a better GPU.
 

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It's a tough call. On the one hand, if they didn't upgrade people would keep on complaining for the next 6-8 months that Apple is always lagging behind the competition. On the other, frequent incremental upgrades are bound to piss off some customers who bought a new machine just a few days before.

Personally, I don't see it as a dealbreaker. It would have been if they released a full refresh, but the GPU is not my main concern when purchasing a Mac. Still, having bought in July, I contacted Apple sales to ask about it just in case. They gave me a case number and suggested to visit the Apple Store, as "someone there might be able to help", but stressed that they couldn't promise anything for sure.

At any rate, we don't even know how much the new cards will cost, and the top-spec'd 15" was already stretching the limits of what I consider a reasonable expense for a personal machine.
 
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It's 5 months, start of July to end of November. People are funny. If Apple doesn't release updates, they get pissed. If Appel does release an update twice per year, they get pissed.
I think people ought be happy that Apple is actually doing something with the Mac and not leaving it's models for year on year before any meaningful update.

Vega will undoubtedly be an improvement, equally it's not going to turn the MBP into a portable workstation or PC slaying gamer as it's thermally & power limited. TBH Vega was always when, not if for the MBP, in your shoes I would simply wait for the 2019 model as Apple may make a better effort with the cooling solution.

Anyone needing serious GPU performance with a portable Mac will be running an eGPU anyway as the cooling solution cant keep up with the CPU as is. You will likely save in the long-term as it will extend the usefulness of the notebook and the card can be swapped out in time.

Q-6
 

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Even if it is, who cares? When a new product is released the older one doesn't suddenly stop working as it did.
NO.

Just no.
Mine is A MONTH OLD.
I would've bought a VEGA if they announced that THIS EXACT SAME laptop would ship with vega A MONTH LATER.

ON TOP OF THAT, MY SCREEN FLICKERS. MY "i" RANDOMLY DOUBLES. MY LOGIC RANDOMLY CLICKS AND POPS.
AND IT WAS 5300€...

JUST NO.

There's no defending Apple anymore, that's **ii*** business practice
HERE ANOTHER DOUBLE I


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tbh, if i knew it was so plagued with issues i wouldn't have bought one at all.
I literally dont know what to do - i don't have money for another god damn computer, i just bought this one and its plagued with issues.
If i wanted computer with issues I'd gone to Aldi and bought one for 250€ and wouldnt care about it.

I'm with you OP.

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lol again

I'm just said i gave my 2012 away. Really, it fell on the floor and i spilled whiskey on it and it works better than this piece of **** - i have a keyboard cover which i take off everytime i close the lid, still, the "i" key broke. AMAZING ENGINEERING.
 
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Howard2k

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NO.

Just no.
Mine is A MONTH OLD.
I would've bought a VEGA if they announced that THIS EXACT SAME laptop would ship with vega A MONTH LATER.

ON TOP OF THAT, MY SCREEN FLICKERS. MY "i" RANDOMLY DOUBLES. MY LOGIC RANDOMLY CLICKS AND POPS.
AND IT WAS 5300€...

JUST NO.

There's no defending Apple anymore, that's ****** business practice
HERE ANOTHER DOUBLE I


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tbh, if i knew it was so plagued with issues i wouldn't have bought one at all.
I literally dont know what to do - i don't have money for another god damn computer, i just bought this one and its plagued with issues.
If i wanted computer with issues I'd gone to Aldi and bought one for 250€ and wouldnt care about it.

I'm with you OP.

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I I'm

lol again

I'm just said i gave my 2012 away. Really, it fell on the floor and i spilled whiskey on it and it works better than this piece of **** - i have a keyboard cover which i take off everytime i close the lid, still, the "i" key broke. AMAZING ENGINEERING.

Wow.


Take some time out to cool down, put the toys back in the pushchair/stroller/pram whatever word you use in your part of the world.

When you're a little more relaxed - it's just a computer. It works as well as it did before the Vega was announced. You know that. This also isn't your first technology purchase either, so you know that new products get released. That's what happens. Products are announced, then new products come along. This isn't a new thing.

If you genuinely have issues with your current MBPro then that's another issue altogether. Totally separate. If you have issues with your MBPro then you can contact Apple and have them take a look. That's what the warranty is for.
 
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